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[alex90c]

jlb524 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Why the f*ck would an attractive character be made to appeal to CASUAL GAMERS specifically?

JESUS F*CKING CHRIST HOW DOES THAT WORK?!

Methinks you need a chill-pill.

methinks people need to start using the term "casual gamer" properly.

it's up there with "bioware want game X to appeal to the COD/GOW/BF crowd" or "it breaks my immersion".

[TMA LIVE]

(imagines Liara in Miranda's suit)

I got nothing.

[TMA LIVE]

Speaking of Miranda. ME3 spoilers:

I'm going to take great pleasure spending time with Liara where Miranda worked and slept. I mean, in an alternate universe, she decided to kick people out just to screw on their station. Now I get to do the same on her station with Liara.

[CrutchCricket]

What are you all going on about?

[The Elder King]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Speaking of Miranda. ME3 spoilers:
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Meh, if I have the possibility to choose, I'll put Kaidan in that place. Though since she's the SB, and so more important than a Spectre, I  understand why they put Liara here.
Speaking of place, does someone know who will stay in Mordin's place on the Normandy in ME3?

[Ryzaki]

RampantAndroid wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...



Right because LOTSB was when my Shep gave her a hug I had no control over.

http://tinyurl.com/7fpjwdp

Had no control? Really? I just watched an entire playthrough to watch the non-romanced, no paragon action version...and I see nothing to back you up. The CLOSEST you get is Shepard putting a hand on Liara's arm at the end...after which point you can skip the hug, and say goodbye and walk away from her as she looks a bit lost.

Oh boy.

Play Illium when Shep talks to Liara for the first time again hun. The laugh was supposed to be a "ha" and yeah that LOTSB bit I KNOW it was sarcasm. You claimed there were no forced hugs. There are. In the Vanilla. Game. That. Is. Not. The. Shep and Liara friendship show that I "knew" was gonna happen and paid for. That I can't avoid if I don't have Zaeed and Kasumi.

The only thing I liked about LOTSB was being able to choose not to hug her but that was overshadowed by the BFF act they were pulling in the banter all game long.

So yes. Ra forbid I didn't want Shep to be forced to hug Liara. Oh noes. Frankly I think a character benefits from having both a friendship, antagonist, and professional path because it shows more sides to the character than "I'm always here for you no matter what!" (and yes I'd love if Garrus and Tali had some teeth clenched teamwork with my racist renedouche, Miranda backstabbed my Shep who didn't gain her loyalty because she placed humanities future over his willingness to take a gamble on fighting with the Reapers, If Jack ditched Shep if he/she didn't give her the data she wanted or took too long to do her loyalty mission, if Grunt challenged a Shep he wasn't loyal too or if Shep actually had to kill him if he/she wasn't able to convince him to accept his/her command.)

That's mostly why I like DAO far more than ME. The characters felt much more nuanced because I saw how they reacted to different characters of mine and it was in a variety of ways instead of the two but mostly identical paragon/renegade versions of "We're friends but help me with X thing." [as much as I like Wrex he could've also benefitted from not auto armshaking Wrex as well that is helped by Shep looking awkward though and then being able to choose a friendly/neutral tone.]

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 décembre 2011 - 07:13 .

[Dariustwinblade]

IMO, the hug is nowhere near as bad as finding out Joker is your pilot in Me2. And STILL being buddy buddy. After he got you killed

or Unrecruited Garrus saying 'just like old times' in Halestorm.

[Ryzaki]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

IMO, the hug is nowhere near as bad as finding out Joker is your pilot in Me2. And STILL being buddy buddy. After he got you killed

or Unrecruited Garrus saying 'just like old times' in Halestorm.

See Garrus can be avoided by not taking him anywhere and using renegade responses. Plus you can't romance him if you don't recruit him so clearly there's some differences in the way he sees Shep (I just wish the devs had bothered to give him different dialogue most of the time).

Though Joker is pretty damn annoying. My renegade would not be all "LOL" after Joker got him killed and wasted 2 years he could've been convincing the council to prepare against the Reapers. (This is before he got "Ah yes reapers." 'd though).

That said if Shep could've chosen to leave Joker behind to still end up dead (possibly with the VS going instead to save Joker and the both of them getting to safety) and it made Joker far less friendly to Shep that would've been nice.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 décembre 2011 - 06:58 .

[Korkki]

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

[DonutsDealer]

Korkki wrote...

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

True, specially when is Shepard who decides to go after Joker.

[Ryzaki]

Korkki wrote...

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

True. The collectors would've blown up Shep's escape pod if he had been fleeing. Either way Shep shouldn't be forced to be so friendly towards him (which is jarring especially since ME2 doesn't force Shep to be friendly to him other than that one opening scene. Other then that Shep can be the same hardass he/she was in ME1).

[jlb524]

alex90c wrote...

methinks people need to start using the term "casual gamer" properly.

it's up there with "bioware want game X to appeal to the COD/GOW/BF crowd" or "it breaks my immersion".

Right, but swearing isn't the best way to get that point across.

[TMA LIVE]

DonutsDealer wrote...

Korkki wrote...

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

True, specially when is Shepard who decides to go after Joker.

Not really, since it was Joker who refused to leave against orders, and needed to be dragged away.

[alex90c]

jlb524 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

methinks people need to start using the term "casual gamer" properly.

it's up there with "bioware want game X to appeal to the COD/GOW/BF crowd" or "it breaks my immersion".

Right, but swearing isn't the best way to get that point across.

there's nothing wrong with swearing 

[DonutsDealer]

TMA LIVE wrote...

DonutsDealer wrote...

Korkki wrote...

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

True, specially when is Shepard who decides to go after Joker.

Not really, since it was Joker who refused to leave against orders, and needed to be dragged away.

Hmmm, forgot that part. Well, let's just say both are guilty, Joker for dissobey and Shepard for going to rescue him instead to the escape-pods, alright?

[Korkki]

Ryzaki wrote...

Korkki wrote...

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

True. The collectors would've blown up Shep's escape pod if he had been fleeing. Either way Shep shouldn't be forced to be so friendly towards him (which is jarring especially since ME2 doesn't force Shep to be friendly to him other than that one opening scene. Other then that Shep can be the same hardass he/she was in ME1).

Yeah, well that is completely a different subject, isn't it. I was just talking about when some people say Joker got Shepard killed...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Not really, since it was Joker who refused to leave against orders, and needed to be dragged away.

Joker have the Vrolik syndrome and he most likely couldn't have made it out of the cockpit to the escape shuttle by himself. Shepard is also the captain of the ship. The captain is either the last person to leave the sinking ship or then he/she sinks with it. It's just imo stupid to start saying if this then that. We could as well say that, because Joker refused to evacuate, he managed to buy some time for the rest of the crue to evacuate by piloting the Normandy and dodging the collector ship's beams. Or Shepard could've ran a little faster to the cockpit so that they both would've survived or anything but that kind of thinking is just stupid.

Modifié par Korkki, 28 décembre 2011 - 07:29 .

[Ryzaki]

There's no way Joker's syndrome is an excuse. The VS said Joker wouldn't leave. Not that he was incapable of it.

If Joker's syndrome was so bad he was incapable of getting to an Escape Pod there's no way he should be serving on a war vessel. He might have to hobble his way there but he should've been able to make it. Shep just grabbed him to speed it the hell up.

Not to mention he was probably given offers of help from other soldiers (like those who were right next to him when the evacuation started) he most likely refused.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 décembre 2011 - 07:34 .

[TMA LIVE]

Korkki wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Korkki wrote...

Imho, it's really childish to claim that Joker got Shepard killed.

True. The collectors would've blown up Shep's escape pod if he had been fleeing. Either way Shep shouldn't be forced to be so friendly towards him (which is jarring especially since ME2 doesn't force Shep to be friendly to him other than that one opening scene. Other then that Shep can be the same hardass he/she was in ME1).

Yeah, well that is completely a different subject, isn't it. I was just talking about when some people say Joker got Shepard killed...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Not really, since it was Joker who refused to leave against orders, and needed to be dragged away.

Joker have the Vrolik syndrome and he most likely couldn't have made it out of the cockpit to the escape shuttle by himself. Shepard is also the captain of the ship. The captain is either the last person to leave the sinking ship or then he/she sinks with it. It's just imo stupid to start saying if this then that. We could as well say that, because Joker refused to evacuate, he managed to buy some time for the rest of the crue to evacuate by piloting the Normandy and dodging the collector ship's beams. Or Shepard could've ran a little faster to the cockpit so that they both would've survived or anything but that kind of thinking is just stupid.

The escape pod was right next to his damn chair. Like hell he couldn't do that by himself. Technically, by going after Joker, Shepard is also heading to escape pods as well.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 décembre 2011 - 07:33 .

[Rosewind]

For all you Liara Fans out there here somthing i knocked up while messing with a new cs5 extension.
Hope you like :happy:

[mybudgee]

You are quite talented, Rosewind

[Rosewind]

jreezy wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

For all you Liara Fans out there here somthing i knocked up while messing with a new cs5 extension.
Hope you like :happy:

No freckles? Looks great though regardless.

Woops knew i forgot something thanks might add them later.

[JamieCOTC]

Rosewind wrote...

For all you Liara Fans out there here somthing i knocked up while messing with a new cs5 extension.
Hope you like :happy:

That's quite good, Rosewind!  Looks great!