Grunt Lord wrote...
and did liara or the codex say that they eather have one or no partners and some times more.
I can see a problem with the asari if you picked Mornith over Samara. This is going to be a long wait and this wait is slowly driving me nuts. I want the game, but not all the info before hand.IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
I'm hoping it's not political. Of all the races, I'd hope the Asari would be willing to come to Earth's aid without any strings attached.IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
ratzerman wrote...
I'm hoping it's not political. Of all the races, I'd hope the Asari would be willing to come to Earth's aid without any strings attached.IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
SimplePlan2k8 wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
I'm hoping it's not political. Of all the races, I'd hope the Asari would be willing to come to Earth's aid without any strings attached.IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
I would imagine Thessia will be under heavy Reaper bombardment too, I mean, they're not JUST attacking Earth. They're out for everyone
Grunt Lord wrote...
Liara Fact's Spoilers
DossierEdit
After learning Liara is Matriarch Benezia's daughter, Commander Shepard searches for Liara to discover what, if anything, she knows. Searching the Artemis Tau cluster, Shepard eventually discovers her suspended in an energy field at a dig site on Therum, a mining world in the Knossos system. The geth have chased her behind the barrier curtains, in an attempt to either kill Liara or force her to help Saren Arterius find the Conduit. After being rescued from the doomed ruins, Liara joins the Normandy
and is subsequently available as a squad member. She uses her
telepathic abilities to assist in interpreting Shepard's fragmented
visions gained from the Prothean Beacons,
in order to discover and thwart Saren's plan in time. She was surprised
by Shepard's revelation of the Protheans' extinction by the Reapers,
but believed it to be true, as there was remarkably little evidence of
the Protheans' existence — as if something or someone did not want the
mystery of their extinction solved.
Liara does not relish her role as Benezia's daughter and has
shied away from her mother's life as an important figure in galactic
affairs. Benezia's position meant Liara faced high expectations from
everyone, and she chose a career in archaeology to escape the pressures
of being the daughter of such a prominent figure. Because of her work,
Liara spends most of her time alone. She is shy and not used to lying, a
trait Ashley Williams is tempted to take advantage of — "Want me to ask about her sex life? Might be illuminating."
Liara is viewed with suspicion by the rest of the Normandy's crew
because of her connection to Benezia, though she has not spoken to the
matriarch in many years. However, she knows her mother well enough to be
astonished to discover she is working with Saren, and does not believe
she could be aiding him of her own free will. Shepard can talk to Liara
about her mother and discuss the reasons Benezia may have for assisting
Saren, as well as asari culture in general and the misconceptions
surrounding Liara's species.
Liara later explains she is unaware of whom Benezia chose as her
partner, only knowing that her 'second parent' was another asari.
Reproduction between two asari is taboo in asari culture, which may
contribute to Liara behaving as an outcast from society; it is
speculated that her 'father' did not wish to be identified due to the
social stigma surrounding 'pureblooded'
offspring. Whatever the reason, Benezia never reveals the identity of
her partner to Liara — whether this is important enough to be explored
further in the future is unclear. As a result, Benezia raised Liara
alone, though this is not unusual among asari due to their long
lifespan. From an early age Liara became fascinated in the Protheans,
seeing them as wondrous, mysterious figures.
Liara was initially drawn to Shepard because the Commander was touched by Prothean technology on Eden Prime.
Unfortunately, Liara is used to being alone for long periods of time,
and confesses that she always seems to say something embarrassing around
other people. When Shepard jokes about Liara sounding like she wants to
dissect Shepard in a lab, Liara becomes flustered and claims she only
meant Shepard would make an interesting specimen for an in-depth study,
further embarrassing herself. Liara discreetly looks up Shepard's service history
to learn more, worrying about making a fool of herself if she asks the
Commander directly. Her scientific interest gradually becomes a romantic
attraction that Shepard can choose to pursue.
Even if Shepard has other romantic interests, Liara still cares about
the Commander, sympathetic to the nightmares Shepard suffers because of
the visions from the beacon. Liara is very compassionate — she even
feels sorry for Saren because he is losing his mind to indoctrination. If she is present during the Noveria mission, she will always counsel forgiveness and advise Shepard to release the Rachni Queen.
However, she is used to defending herself on remote digs — sites are
often raided by privateers for artifacts — and in combat, she makes a
formidable ally due to her near-complete focus on biotics.
If Liara accompanies Shepard to Ilos,
she, unlike the other squad members, finds the planet fascinating
rather than unnerving, given her interest in the Protheans. She never
expected to set foot on Ilos, and hopes to return after Saren has been
dealt with. She becomes very excited once they descend into the bunker,
wondering what secrets are hidden inside — resulting in the other squad
member reminding her that they are there to stop Saren and that she can
save the sightseeing for later. After Vigil has given his message to Shepard, Liara wants to stay and talk to the VI
a little longer, saying this might be their only chance to learn what
Vigil can tell them about the Protheans. Shepard can offer an opinion on
Liara's sense of priority.
Romance
“There's something compelling about you, Shepard.”
If Shepard begins a relationship with Liara, she eventually reveals
she has never melded before and finds the idea a little daunting, but
gradually comes to trust the Commander, feeling as if they share some
special connection. During the Normandy's lockdown, she comes to
Shepard's side to reassure the Commander, and they almost share a kiss
before being interrupted by Joker.
When the Normandy escapes and en route to Ilos, Liara comes to
see Shepard, claiming she wants to spend the night, afraid she might
never see Shepard again but certain this is what she wants.
Mission and Assignments
During the mission on Noveria, Gianna Parasini mentions to Shepard that Matriarch Benezia is visiting Peak 15.
If Liara has been recruited but is not present, a squad member will
suggest that Shepard bring her to confront or possibly talk her mother
around. However, doing so could easily jeopardize any attempted
companion achievements. If Liara comes along, there will be additional
dialogue throughout the mission. Upon regaining her true self, the
Matriarch confides that she had always been very proud of Liara, calling
her "Little Wing" before expiring. Liara mourns for her mother, but
takes some comfort from the fact Benezia tried to stop Saren, no matter
how the attempt turned out. She chooses to remember Benezia as she once
was.
Two years after the events of Mass Effect, Shepard meets Liara upon reaching Illium,
and discovers that she has become an information broker. She is unable
to talk to the Commander freely since all of her conversations are
probably being recorded on Illium. Liara's personality has become much
darker and ruthless, showing willingness to break the law and to
threaten people in order to achieve success in the information trade.
She is even heard quoting her mother, Matriarch Benezia, when
threatening a contact. Her change in personality is later revealed to be
attributed to her hatred of the Shadow Broker
and her determination to end him for the grief the Broker put her
through. After certain dialogue choices, it is possible to break through
her shell and see the real Liara, but only for a moment. When asked
about her needs, Shepard will offer to track down the Shadow Broker's
agent known as the Observer. She is also willing to provide the
Commander with information on the locations of some of the potential
mission recruits.
Romance
If she was Shepard's romantic partner in Mass Effect, she is seen on
the SSV Normandy as it is attacked by an unknown assailant. On Shepard's
orders to evacuate, she climbs into an escape pod before the Normandy
is destroyed. After Commander Shepard is resurrected through the Lazarus Project,
the Illusive Man tells the Commander that Liara is probably working for
the Shadow Broker and, if so, she is not to be trusted.
During their first meeting on Illium, she greets Shepard with a
kiss. After that, Liara confesses that she feels guilty — she understood
that Cerberus would use Shepard for their own business, but
nevertheless gave the Commander's body to the Illusive Man, because she
could not let Shepard go. She feared Shepard would hate her for this and
apologizes. Shepard may choose to calm her by assuring her that she did
the right thing as the current mission is extremely important. On the
other hand, if Shepard accuses Liara for this selfish betrayal, Liara
rebuffs this saying she had no other choice but to do it and if she
hadn't done it then the Commander would have remained dead. She states
that it was either Cerberus or the Collectors. She says Cerberus was the
best choice she could make and again apologizes. After handing over
Shepard's body, Liara remained on Illium, devoted to hunt the Shadow
Broker down, although she expresses regret that she cannot come with
Shepard. On-board the Normandy SR-2,
the Commander will have a picture of her near the private terminal in
Shepard's quarters. If Shepard remains faithful to their relationship,
the Commander will look at Liara's picture during the journey to the Omega 4 relay.
Dossier
“I've spent two years plotting revenge. Now I have the chance to make it a rescue.”In Lair of the Shadow Broker, a DLC pack for Mass Effect 2, Liara and Commander Shepard team up to confront the Shadow Broker.
Cerberus provides Shepard with information regarding the Shadow
Broker and asks Shepard to deliver it to Liara. The information provides
Liara with a lead to track down the Broker along with proof that Feron,
a friend captured by the Broker, is alive. She asks Shepard to meet her
at her apartment to discuss plans regarding the Shadow Broker, but when
Shepard arrives, the apartment is locked down, and a Spectre Tela Vasir
is conducting an investigation into Liara's disappearance. Vasir orders
the cops to leave, and with the aid of Shepard, conducts an
investigation of the apartment. After discovering that Liara went to the
Baria Frontiers office in the Dracon Trade Center to meet with an
informant, Vasir, Shepard, and the squad follow.
Liara was meeting her contact on the third floor when, just as
Shepard, Vasir, and the squad arrive, a series of explosions tear
through the building. Shepard and the squad fight their way up from the
bottom while Vasir lands on the roof of the building and proceeds
downward. When Shepard reaches the Baria Frontiers office, Vasir is
already there and Liara's contact is dead. Vasir asks if Liara's body
was found but before Shepard can reply, Liara emerges from the shadows
pointing her gun at Vasir. She says that Vasir was the one who tried to
kill her, and that Vasir has the disk with the Shadow Broker's location,
having taken it from the dead informant.
Shepard and the squad then turn their weapons on Vasir, who
shatters a window, throwing the glass as a distraction to escape. Liara
generates a biotic field to protect the squad, and Shepard tackles Vasir
out of the broken window. After a brief fight, Liara also jumps through
the window, using her biotics to slow her fall, and while Shepard and
the squad fight their way back through the Trade Center, she pursues
Vasir, eventually cornering her on the landing pad outside the building.
When Shepard and the squad arrive, Vasir, now outnumbered, calls her X3M,
jumps in and speeds away. Liara grabs a cab and is joined by Shepard.
Shepard pilots the vehicle while Liara keeps an eye out for obstacles
and Vasir. Eventually they catch up, and Vasir tries to knock them out
of the sky. However, Vasir collides with another vehicle, and then
crashes on the roof of the Azure hotel. Shepard lands the cab on the
roof and Liara joins Shepard to pursue Vasir. They proceed to battle
their way through Shadow Broker agents in the hotel until they
eventually catch up to Vasir in a plaza.
Vasir takes a hostage, and Shepard tries to talk her down.
However eventually words are useless and Vasir picks a fight. They
battle Vasir until she collapses near one of the plaza's walls. Liara is
first there, grabs the disk and goes off to analyze it while Shepard
converses with Vasir before she dies. When Shepard catches up and asks
if that is the data they need, Liara replies that it is exactly what
they needed and now she can finally take down the Shadow Broker for
good, with Shepard's help. If pressed, Liara is very thankful to Shepard
for helping her again. She talks about how Shepard rescued her on Therum
two years ago, how Shepard always seemed to make things work out, and
now they are doing it again. If pressed again, Liara will mention their
plan and her desire to get Feron back, and tell Shepard her plan to
attack the Broker.
Liara joins Shepard in the raid on the Broker's Base.
The Shadow Broker's forces try to keep them out, but they fight to the
door. Liara uses a door ****** that is illegal even on Illium, manages
to bypass the door and the squad gets inside. From there, they fight
through the ship, eventually finding the ship's prison cells. There
Liara finds her long lost partner. Feron however can't be released
without killing him as he is hooked up to a torture machine that will
fry his brain if tampered with. He tells the squad where to shut it off,
and the squad sets off to free Feron and bring down the Shadow Broker
once and for all.
When they finally reach the Shadow Broker's office, they discover that the Broker is actually a yahg,
a species that are effective outcasts in the galaxy. The Broker shows
his knowledge of the situation, and talks about how Liara is just
fumbling around in the darkness. However, Liara shows that she knows
more than the Shadow Broker thought she knew. In a rage, the Broker
throws his desk and engages Shepard and Liara in combat. After a
protracted fight, in a coordinated effort, Shepard distracts the Broker,
while Liara brings down the liquid that was contained in the ceiling
onto the Shadow Broker. The liquid causes the Broker's barrier to
malfunction, and he dies in the subsequent explosion.As
the squad picks themselves up, the power goes out briefly, allowing
Feron to escape and he makes a break for the airlock. In the Broker's
office, the Shadow Broker's agents start asking about the interruption
in the signal. Liara walks over to the mass of computer banks, and after
a few seconds, contacts the agents, in the Shadow Broker's voice and
giving an explanation that power went out temporarily when they were
upgrading hardware. While this is happening, Feron storms into the
office, brandishing his gun, but lowers it when he sees what is going
on. Feron and Shepard ask if this is what Liara wants, and she is sure.
Feron leaves to check on the power systems leaving Shepard and Liara
alone.
Liara assumes the position of Shadow Broker, with his minions none
the wiser, and promises Shepard that she will turn the organization
around. She also mentions that she will be able to provide Shepard with
more information now thanks to the Broker's extensive networks. She vows
to use the Broker's resources for good; to help Shepard combat the
Reapers. She and Feron remain on the Shadow Broker Base ship. Liara lets Shepard depart with the promise that they can return anytime. Shepard can also invite Liara aboard the Normandy
for a tour of the ship and to catch up. If Shepard refuses to have
Liara come aboard the Normandy, she will sadly accept the refusal. When
walking away she will stop to look at the Commander, only to have the
Commander not look at her.
Romance
“I spent two years mourning you. So if we're going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back.”
During the Shadow Broker mission, the player has an opportunity to
try and confront Liara about their relationship before boarding the
Shadow Broker's ship, telling Liara that they resent how Liara has used
them to help find the Shadow Broker. Liara responds that she can't "undo
two years of mourning." After Shepard has defeated the yahg and Liara
has become the new Shadow Broker, Shepard questions whether this is what
she wants. Liara begins enumerating the ways that her new position can
benefit Shepard, but then bursts into tears, unbelieving that her two
year quest for vengeance is over. If the player chooses to comfort her,
then Shepard will hold her assuring her it's okay. She will go on to say
they have grown to be two different people. If Shepard chooses to
comfort Liara more, the Commander will give Liara a longer kiss and
assure her it's alright for them to be together.
Later, Shepard can ask Liara whether she ever developed a romantic relationship with Feron,
but Liara assures Shepard that she and Feron are "just friends" and
that Liara made it clear to Feron that she was "as you humans say,
taken." Then Liara says that she misses Shepard but she doesn't want to
put pressure on the Commander. The player has the option of just staying
friends or becoming involved again. Regardless of their response, they
can invite Liara for drinks on the Normandy, but if they've chosen to
continue the romance, the conversation in the subsequent cutscene
focuses on Liara asking Shepard about their future. If the player
chooses the "happily ever after" option, Shepard jokes about eventually
settling down, marrying, and having "lots of little blue children."
Liara says that she can't bear the thought of losing Shepard again, and
asks them to promise that they'll always come back. Shepard teases that
she's asking for a big promise, and the Commander tells her that they
need something special to come back to and that she should make an
offer. Liara responds that she's open to suggestions, then gasps as
Shepard grasps an area on her backside. Her eyes turn black and the
cutscene ends, and thereafter, Liara will only thank Shepard for coming
by during subsequent visits to the Shadow Broker's Lair. Alternatively,
the Commander can reply that they are always coming back, but the
cutscene still fades to black. Again, on subsequent visits, Liara will
thank Shepard for coming by.
Mass Effect 3
Liara will return as a squad member in Mass Effect 3.[1]
SimplePlan2k8 wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
I'm hoping it's not political. Of all the races, I'd hope the Asari would be willing to come to Earth's aid without any strings attached.IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
I would imagine Thessia will be under heavy Reaper bombardment too, I mean, they're not JUST attacking Earth. They're out for everyone
Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
I also wonder what the difference is between the mind melding to get info and the mind melding for fun, I assume there is a difference although Liara did seem pretty keen to get the beacon info from Shep *cough*perv*cough*
If I remember correctly from one of the Q and A at E3 that the Reapers are going to be starting at the bottom of the galaxy map and moving upwards. I have no idea which system Thessia is located in or how close it is to Sol System.Erani wrote...
SimplePlan2k8 wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
I'm hoping it's not political. Of all the races, I'd hope the Asari would be willing to come to Earth's aid without any strings attached.IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
I would imagine Thessia will be under heavy Reaper bombardment too, I mean, they're not JUST attacking Earth. They're out for everyone
It may take some time for them to get to Thessia right? I mean, they just started on Earth, so Asari should have some time to get organized.
SilentNukee wrote...
I love Liara, I can't help but only romance her when I play through ME1. I have 2 other Sheps in a relationship with her that have stayed faithful in ME2. My renegade however, cheated on her with Garrus and it hurt so bad to do this! But I just gotta remember that she's just a big **** and that's how she rolls, and she will cheat again given the chance in ME3. (She's not my canon Shep, who I foresee as myself.)
Bad renegade Shep, bad. J/K. I used my canon Shepard 10 times in ME2 and that is the one with Liara and like I have said before, I cheated once with Garrus, but remained friends with Liara. I only did it to see what would happen and I didn't get the balcony scene where she called me out on it. I always did the SB before the SM and the cabin scene after. Now, I am tempted to use my offline account femShep that I played once(faithful) and do another play through and so I can get Liara's reaction at the balcony 
:( scene when I get with Garrus.
I am sure most of us on this tread will try their hardest to keep that promise. I know I will. Liara is my favorite character in Mass Effect series. How can anyone cheat on her and be glad they did is amazing to me. Her eyes make me melt like butter.Cypher0020 wrote...
Liara thread! Woo-hooo!
I'm gonna start that file in ME2 in a bit... anyone just tear up with the lines "I just couldn't let you go" and "If we do this, I need to know you're always coming back"
Those lines...*sigh*
I always promise Liara I'm coming back...but now with ME3.... I'm not sure....
I know what you mean on that, but I think Liara was just scared at that point, which could explain the lack of power behind it. The car chase scene was great. Just like the banter before getting into the SB base.
L: "Looks like this last wave is going to be a big one."
S: "You just had to give the mercs ...advice"(I forget exactly how Shepard pharse it.
L: "Now there will be less inside."
S: "Dream on, T'Soni."
I might have messed that up some, but I LOLed when that banter was being said.
IndigoWolfe wrote...
Shepard visiting Thessia has already been confirmed. The only question is; will it be more of a political problem Shepard's dealing with, or fending off an attack?
Robhuzz wrote...
Grunt Lord wrote...
i think they have the same amount of time as humans or around it there bodys change over time but they live to be a thousand years.
i wonder how fast asari grow?
I would be hesitant to guess but the asari near the weapons dealer on Illium says she's 60 years old, it's generally accepted that Asari reach maturity at this age (aka the asari equivalent of an 18 year old human) but Samara also said morinth went on the run when she was 40, also Samara says the ardat yakshi syndrome manifests at maturity. So there's a lot of inconsistency there even though 20 years in asari terms would be like a few weeks in human age.
I think it's reasonable to assume Asari still look like children until their 20th - 30th year, no real proof on this though, mostly logical thinking and explanation.
Edit: About Liara: At first I was thinking of romancing Ashley, that's when I figured I could also go with Liara. Was a hard choice but I chose Liara. Never romanced anyone else than Liara on future playthroughs AND never cheated on her, except once to get the ME2 achievement, then reloaded an earlier save:pinched:.
Guess it's true what they say: "Once you go blue you never want to go back!"
evmiller wrote...
I see it more like this. Ardat yakshi syndrome begins at puberty around 40 years old which is about 13 years old for humans. A 60 year old Asari is equiviant to an 18 year old Human. The problem here is that Liara considers herself "barley an adult" at 106 years old, which also indicates 18-20. Although 106 = 25 seems more realisic considering her career history and education level.
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