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[hollow22_]

PMC65 wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

More seriously, i'd like to fight both together as you suggest but IDK, i'm glad we didn't have to (SB was the only boss who made me suffer a bit in both ME and ME2), because the Human-Larva Reaper was killed with 2 shots of my M920 Cain:devil: ( you know the glich in which you can fire 2 consecutive shots if you have more than 200% ammo, and the second one don't need to charge like the first...)

I swear in this new game I'm doing (now just I need to do some LM, LotSB, overlord an minor quest before getting the IFF and the SM) I'll kill the Larva without the Cain

I tried the Cain once and nothing happened. I only use the Geth Particle Beam after that.

I just completed another playthrough and that fight against the Shadow Broker still cracks me up. As my poor Shepard is running around the Shadow Broker, passing a knocked out Zaeed and Liara shaking her head (ok that shaking her head part is just my imagination, I hope ) ... I'm in my livingroom shouting, "Kill it Liara ... don't wait on me!" 

well the Cain is too slow for charge so you must be patient with it. once you use it, you might wait 15-20 seconds uncovered, aiming at the foe until it shots his "nuclear missile" If you hit the foe, you almost can instakill everything in the game (AKA threaser maw in Tuchanka, Human Reaper Larva, Reaper core in the IFF mission....)

also if you have more than 200% ammo on it you can shoot 2 times the Cain (y'know, 100% ammo=1 shot). There is a glich in which after you shoot your first one (after waiting his 15-20 seconds of charging) and it explodes, you can instantly shoot another one without needing any time for charge that second shoot (as if you use adrenaline rush or something like that, I don't remember the name of that ability), so it makes the Cain in my opinion the best heavy weapon:devil:.

For the threaser maws she instakills him, and if you use onlu 1 time to the Human Larva, you almost deal 2/3 of his life bar out, so if you take profit of Cain's glitch you instakill too the Larva. That's why since I got it in every game I play, I always chose her, because she can save my ass in lots of problems.

About the SB fight I agree with you. I'm an adept so I always cover myself while unleasing Warp towards my enemies, so when he breaks down all the covers in that room I'm doomed because I have to fight him in an openly map. That's why I always say He's the only one in the whole ME series who manages to make me suffer a bit:innocent::innocent:

EDIT: ToP blue and Ali

Modifié par hollow22_, 21 janvier 2012 - 10:35 .

[Korkki]

hollow22_ wrote...

About the SB fight I agree with you. I'm an adept so I always cover myself while unleasing Warp towards my enemies, so when he breaks down all the covers in that room I'm doomed because I have to fight him in an openly map. That's why I always say He's the only one in the whole ME series who manages to make me suffer a bit:innocent::innocent:

My canon Shep is also adept and SB wasn't that hard imo. I was just running around the place, up the stairs, taking cover, shoot, throw some warp etc. etc. down the stairs, take cover behind a pillar. shoot, throw some warp. run to next cover. shoot, throw some warp, next cover, shoot, again up the stairs, repeat as many times as needed. And since SB was following me, Liara was just somewhere in the background shooting and using her biotics. Simple, didn't even have to use heavy weapon IIRC.

[hollow22_]

Korkki wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

About the SB fight I agree with you. I'm an adept so I always cover myself while unleasing Warp towards my enemies, so when he breaks down all the covers in that room I'm doomed because I have to fight him in an openly map. That's why I always say He's the only one in the whole ME series who manages to make me suffer a bit:innocent::innocent:

My canon Shep is also adept and SB wasn't that hard imo. I was just running around the place, up the stairs, taking cover, shoot, throw some warp etc. etc. down the stairs, take cover behind a pillar. shoot, throw some warp. run to next cover. shoot, throw some warp, next cover, shoot, again up the stairs, repeat as many times as needed. And since SB was following me, Liara was just somewhere in the background shooting and using her biotics. Simple, didn't even have to use heavy weapon IIRC.

It depends on our fighting style, but I think this one game i'm doing I'm going to try your strategy. Usually I don't like running, I do it only when he destroyed the pillars, so I run for another one. Neither I used heavy weapon towards him, I'm always fight "warp, warp, warp, assault riffle shootings, warp..." but I was wondering trying the Cain in that fight (I know she will kill Liara too if she's near SB) but I guess with my 2 possible shots (I have 220% ammo) I can barely wipe 2 of the 3 stages of the fight. If I try it it will be just for fun, after killing him I'll redo again all the fight with some fair moves

[Robhuzz]

Korkki wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

About the SB fight I agree with you. I'm an adept so I always cover myself while unleasing Warp towards my enemies, so when he breaks down all the covers in that room I'm doomed because I have to fight him in an openly map. That's why I always say He's the only one in the whole ME series who manages to make me suffer a bit:innocent::innocent:

My canon Shep is also adept and SB wasn't that hard imo. I was just running around the place, up the stairs, taking cover, shoot, throw some warp etc. etc. down the stairs, take cover behind a pillar. shoot, throw some warp. run to next cover. shoot, throw some warp, next cover, shoot, again up the stairs, repeat as many times as needed. And since SB was following me, Liara was just somewhere in the background shooting and using her biotics. Simple, didn't even have to use heavy weapon IIRC.

Once you get the hang of it the fight is incredibly easy. Toss a warp around his shield then shoot an unprotected area (usually you can just shoot his right foot - it's not protected by his shield - and still take his armor down), just shoot him when he drops his guard for a while (seems to happen after he took a set amount of damage) and spray him either with an assault rifle or the tempest machine gun. Locust works as well though it has a small clip size and won't damage him that much in the small window of time you have available.

Rinse and repeat and he's down in no time, even on higher difficulties.

It depends on our fighting style, but I think this one game i'm doing I'm going to try your strategy. Usually I don't like running, I do it only when he destroyed the pillars, so I run for another one. Neither I used heavy weapon towards him, I'm always fight "warp, warp, warp, assault riffle shootings, warp..." but I was wondering trying the Cain in that fight (I know she will kill Liara too if she's near SB) but I guess with my 2 possible shots (I have 220% ammo) I can barely wipe 2 of the 3 stages of the fight. If I try it it will be just for fun, after killing him I'll redo again all the fight with some fair moves 

That place is too small for the cain,  you'll either kill yourself with the blast or get killed by the SB because you'll spend a while exposed to his revenant machine gun fire. Only way to make this work is to lure the SB all the way over to one side of the room (the door for instance) then make a run for it and shoot him from the other side of the room. Even then he'll switch to his shield though so unless this is the final phase of the fight, you're just wasting your heavy weapon ammo 

Modifié par Robhuzz, 21 janvier 2012 - 11:02 .

[Yuqi]

If you could let Liara kill the V.S would you? I would let her kill kaiden..

[hollow22_]

Robhuzz wrote...

That place is too small for the cain,  you'll either kill yourself with the blast or get killed by the SB because you'll spend a while exposed to his revenant machine gun fire. Only way to make this work is to lure the SB all the way over to one side of the room (the door for instance) then make a run for it and shoot him from the other side of the room. Even then he'll switch to his shield though so unless this is the final phase of the fight, you're just wasting your heavy weapon ammo 

That's why I don't mind to try it, even if it cost Liara's or Shepard's life. I just wanted to know how damage could the cain doing to him, and I agree the only way to do it is lure him (maybe with stasis or singularity if they work?) in one corner and shoot him from the other corner. If the blast kill me then it's OK, it doesn't matter. Even if I was able to kill him with the cain, as I told korkki I planned to restart the fight again and killing him with traditional tactics

do you thing the shield will avoid all the cain's damage wave?? if that, please BW make shep is able to carry that shield in ME3, that would mean avoiding reapers lasers...:whistle:

EDIT yuqi in my game VS was ash so yeaah i'll let Liara play with her as I'd let Jack play with TIM if we can kill him too:devil:

Modifié par hollow22_, 21 janvier 2012 - 11:19 .

[Robhuzz]

Yuqi wrote...

If you could let Liara kill the V.S would you? I would let her kill kaiden..

Why would Liara even want to kill the Vs? If this is about something you read in spoilers then nvm, I don't want to know.

[Yuqi]

hollow22_ wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

That place is too small for the cain,  you'll either kill yourself with the blast or get killed by the SB because you'll spend a while exposed to his revenant machine gun fire. Only way to make this work is to lure the SB all the way over to one side of the room (the door for instance) then make a run for it and shoot him from the other side of the room. Even then he'll switch to his shield though so unless this is the final phase of the fight, you're just wasting your heavy weapon ammo 

That's why I don't mind to try it, even if it cost Liara's or Shepard's life. I just wanted to know how damage could the cain doing to him, and I agree the only way to do it is lure him (maybe with stasis or singularity if they work?) in one corner and shoot him from the other corner. If the blast kill me then it's OK, it doesn't matter. Even if I was able to kill him with the cain, as I told korkki I planned to restart the fight again and killing him with traditional tactics

do you thing the shield will avoid all the cain's damage wave?? if that, please BW make shep is able to carry that shield in ME3, that would mean avoiding reapers lasers...:whistle:

EDIT yuqi in my game VS was ash so yeaah i'll let Liara play with her as I'd let Jack play with TIM if we can kill him too:devil:

Exactly my line of thinking :devil:

Robhuzz wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

If you could let Liara kill the V.S would you? I would let her kill kaiden..

Why would Liara even want to kill the Vs? If this is about something you read in spoilers then nvm, I don't want to know.

Why? I could think of a few reasons if romanced..heck even some as just friends.

Modifié par Yuqi, 21 janvier 2012 - 01:14 .

[Korkki]

Robhuzz wrote...

Once you get the hang of it the fight is incredibly easy. Toss a warp around his shield then shoot an unprotected area (usually you can just shoot his right foot - it's not protected by his shield - and still take his armor down), just shoot him when he drops his guard for a while (seems to happen after he took a set amount of damage) and spray him either with an assault rifle or the tempest machine gun. Locust works as well though it has a small clip size and won't damage him that much in the small window of time you have available.

Rinse and repeat and he's down in no time, even on higher difficulties.

Yep, it is pretty easy fight after all. You're perfectly safe as long as you don't let him get too close to you. SB is moving pretty slowly, so it's quite easy to keep your distance. Storm speed gets you from cover to cover without taking too much damage. While in cover you wait for your health to regenerate if needed and when there is a break in his fire, you just return fire and use your powers, and when he's starting to get too close, you change position. Almost too easy. And that leg is a good place to aim, easy to hit.

[Robhuzz]

Yuqi wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

If you could let Liara kill the V.S would you? I would let her kill kaiden..

Why would Liara even want to kill the Vs? If this is about something you read in spoilers then nvm, I don't want to know.

Why? I could think of a few reasons if romanced..heck even some as just friends.

Either I'm not thinking clearly or... I don't know. I know the VS is being jealous when Liara is romanced and both are downright d*cks when on Horizon. Doesn't justify simply killing them in my book though.

[TMA LIVE]

I just hope Liara doesn't have another revenge quest, expect this time with Cerberus. Because if they do, I'll wish even more that they simply continued the SB storyline into ME3, instead of finishing it in a DLC, and then giving her someone else to be mad at in ME3.

[ZeroCrewX]

I kindy pity the people who havent played the other two games.. however you put it they're missing out on an amazing story chunk...

@TMA LIVE - I dont think they will mate, she could be pissed at everyone cause they're trying to kill you tho! Makes sense

[Dariustwinblade]

Liara isn't on a revenge quest. She wont kill the VS. EDI or Garrus does that.

Though she does HATE TIM and makes a pact with Shepard. When they find TIM they take turnes in torturing him.

[TMA LIVE]

Dariust, I'm going to report you if you keep coming here and saying spoilers without a warning.

[ratzerman]

Pretty sure that spoiler is BS.

[Robhuzz]

ratzerman wrote...

Pretty sure that spoiler is BS.

If it were true then it means BioWare writing has hit so low it can never recover, forcing me to abandon all BioWare games forever as a matter of principle.

[ratzerman]

 Just because that spoiler is BS doesn't mean their writing hasn't hit a new low. I'm prepared for the worst.

[TMA LIVE]

Well, I want to be hopeful. But what people keep spoiling is making me less hopeful. I kind of wish those that have read the leak would shut up about what they know.

[TMA LIVE]

Bad enough what they claim to know is at risk of being change as well.

[PMC65]

Yuqi wrote...

If you could let Liara kill the V.S would you? I would let her kill kaiden..

No ... Neither Shepard or Liara hated Ashley or Kaidan.

Virmire was a mission that I still hate doing to this day and the fact that Shepard has leave one of his/her teammates is always rough. It's even worse because I don't know who I am leaving until I make the decision by coin toss on who goes with the bomb.

I save whoever is with the bomb and that coin toss has seen me have to leave Kaidan who was romancing that particular Shepard .. that sucked!

Why do you see Liara wanting to kill Kaidan in your game?

[TMA LIVE]

PMC65 wrote...

Why do you see Liara wanting to kill Kaidan in your game?

That's probably a question you don't want a answer to.

Anyways, Feb 14 is the demo release date. For DA2, they released spicy images that day if I remember correctly. Think they might do the same?

[ratzerman]

As much as I love Liara, I'd like to see images of other characters we haven't seen yet. Miranda, Thane, Jack, etc.

And I am so sick of that stupid face mask. She's wearing it in every screenshot they've released lately.

[PMC65]

TMA LIVE wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Why do you see Liara wanting to kill Kaidan in your game?

That's probably a question you don't want a answer to.

Anyways, Feb 14 is the demo release date. For DA2, they released spicy images that day if I remember correctly. Think they might do the same?

I was hoping that he had a RP reason for it and not just a "I hate Kaidan".

Hopefully we will get early access to the demo before the 14th .... that would be sweet! I read on the thread dedicated to the demo that you can't use one of your own Shepards but I am looking forward to it so I can see how much they have added since the San Diego Comicon last year.

It will be a little hollow, since the romances won't be there (generic Shepard) but I'll still be looking at the characters closely to see the updates/improvements they have made. And get killed because I'm looking at them and the surroundings more than the combat part.

Ashley: Shepard, why aren't you shooting?
ME:
Liara: Shepard?
ME:  *Zip, SNAP*
Ash: Liara cover Shepard while I take out this mech!
Liara: On it! Shepard!
ME:

*Me (Shepard) looking around as well as checking out Liara & Ash's backsides while the two fight Cerberus*

Ash: How is the Commander doing?
Liara:
ME:
Liara:  Don't ask ... just keep shooting.

[TMA LIVE]

Well, by spicy, I meant this:

http://social.biowar...4887/30#6041952

[TMA LIVE]

Anyways, if Cerberus has attacked and destroyed Liara's base before she went to Mars, I'd have a bit of trouble buying that. If she was being hunted, I doubt someone would contact her, and ask her to inspect some ruins on Mars, like the article suggests.

Another thing I hope doesn't happen is Feron dying off camera. I'd really not like that. After all that trouble to save him, and he's dead just like that? Ugh.

And no, I don't want someone who has read the leaks to tells me what's what. Just let me find out in ME3, or whatever new info comes out.