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[Yuqi]

So this game is Liara the only one you flirt with? If so I can already sense the rage..
And her boobs did get bigger!

[TMA LIVE]

Yep. It's evil not to romance Liara. You hear that? All you people who don't romance Liara clearly ruthless.

[Barquiel]

Poor Liara, all those horrible pick up lines

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

"boobs."

"Show me your sideboob."

Modifié par Lizardviking, 06 février 2012 - 10:10 .

[Turbo_J]

kumquats wrote...

I couldn't avoid all the spoilers, thanks to some spoiler w***** on the BSN. Like you need to be a rocket scientist to use spoiler tags. Do that in the SW:TOR forums and you get flamed, no flame shield will ever save you. But on the BSN everyone thinks it's okay to spoil the game for everyone.

I can't even imagine what the writers felt. Don't give be BS about wanting to know before you buy a game. That's what demos are made for.

Yeah, I got wise early and avoided google searching or thread surffing anything ME3. This is the only thread I even think about reading.

[TMA LIVE]

When the demo comes out, I suggest everyone who doesn't want to be spoiled to stay away. Because there's a chance of an "updated" script, or "fake script" being spread after it releases.

[PMC65]

TMA LIVE wrote...

When the demo comes out, I suggest everyone who doesn't want to be spoiled to stay away. Because there's a chance of an "updated" script, or "fake script" being spread after it releases.

I'm not playing the demo so when it is released I'm going away yet again until after I play the full game. Like my last blackout though, if I see an article or tweet from Ali then I'll pop in, blinders on ... and share.

[Deventh]

TMA LIVE wrote...

When the demo comes out, I suggest everyone who doesn't want to be spoiled to stay away. Because there's a chance of an "updated" script, or "fake script" being spread after it releases.

^Sadly that's how it would be it seems. I will probably stay out of the forums for a while and if i don't make it until the release and spoil myself with the demo i will come back.

Modifié par Deventh, 06 février 2012 - 10:35 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

When the demo comes out, I suggest everyone who doesn't want to be spoiled to stay away. Because there's a chance of an "updated" script, or "fake script" being spread after it releases.

I'm not playing the demo so when it is released I'm going away yet again until after I play the full game. Like my last blackout though, if I see an article or tweet from Ali then I'll pop in, blinders on ... and share.

Not even the multiplayer demo?

I also don't really see why people are afraid of playing the single-player demo, I think everyone knows about Earth and Sur'kesh levels.

[PMC65]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

When the demo comes out, I suggest everyone who doesn't want to be spoiled to stay away. Because there's a chance of an "updated" script, or "fake script" being spread after it releases.

I'm not playing the demo so when it is released I'm going away yet again until after I play the full game. Like my last blackout though, if I see an article or tweet from Ali then I'll pop in, blinders on ... and share.

Not even the multiplayer demo?

I also don't really see why people are afraid of playing the single-player demo, I think everyone knows about Earth and Sur'kesh levels.

I really want to go in fresh with my Shepards ... I played the Mass Effect 2 demo just recently and it contained the Jack mission. I liked that the first time that I saw Jack it was with a Shepard that I created.

So I won't avoid the demo for "spoiler" reasons but just so that the first time that I play it is with one of my Shepards and not a generic one.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...
I really want to go in fresh with my Shepards ... I played the Mass Effect 2 demo just recently and it contained the Jack mission. I liked that the first time that I saw Jack it was with a Shepard that I created.

So I won't avoid the demo for "spoiler" reasons but just so that the first time that I play it is with one of my Shepards and not a generic one.

Suppose it's a good thing I always play with default Shep then! Can easily pretend that it's my own Shepard!

[Turbo_J]

I don't use a default but I can recreate her easily enough. Also, as I said, background should also be easy to reproduce as long as the 'story so far' is included in the demo. Regardless, there will be so little - Earth and Sur'kesh - that minor results of ME1 & 2 choices likely won't matter.

To me it's an opportunity to get used to the new gameplay mechanics and hopefully say hi to or get punched by Hannah. I really hope she's there dammit!

Come the 6th, I'll be stocked up on Monster, have a day off work - and can dive in to the fray without hesitation or interruption for at least a few hours.

[Pinkflu]

So I thought of something today.

Imagine: The Reapers are defeated, the galaxy is safe once more. Both Shepard and Liara have survived. Since they met years ago on Therum, the two of them had been united by a common goal; to stop the Reapers. But now that goal is accomplished.

Where before they had the desire and struggle to survive in common, now they have..? What? What if once the Reapers are all gone, Shep and Liara find they have almost nothing in common? Liara did admit that they didn't have much in common in ME1, when she's admitting her attraction to Shep.

What if they have utterly conflicting personalities? What if peacetime reveals that they don't actually get along at all?

Would this happen with Liara and your Shep?

[PMC65]

Pinkflu wrote...

So I thought of something today.

Imagine: The Reapers are defeated, the galaxy is safe once more. Both Shepard and Liara have survived. Since they met years ago on Therum, the two of them had been united by a common goal; to stop the Reapers. But now that goal is accomplished.

Where before they had the desire and struggle to survive in common, now they have..? What? What if once the Reapers are all gone, Shep and Liara find they have almost nothing in common? Liara did admit that they didn't have much in common in ME1, when she's admitting her attraction to Shep.

What if they have utterly conflicting personalities? What if peacetime reveals that they don't actually get along at all?

Would this happen with Liara and your Shep?

It could ... EW Shepard and Liara have some hurdles they have to jump if they are to make it. There is also the fact that each of their people will need to rebuild. EW Shepard will want to help humanity while Liara will want to help the asari.

[thechris845]

 Liara and Shep would be the ultimate power couple. Shep, the hero of the universe and all civilizations in existence. Liara, a powerful biotic that not only helped Shep in saving everyone and everything, but is also the new shadow broker and controller of his entire information empire. To me, Shep being with anyone else just pales in comparison.

[Turbo_J]

Although cliche, opposites attract. Given Shepard and Liara have truly bonded at least once if not twice, Liara is not the kind of personality to just let something like that go without a fight... not ME1 or ME2 Liara. She may have been awkward, but by no means was she even slightly weak as some perceive. She has just as formidable a will as Shep... any version of Shep, really. Also, her innate understanding of Shepard after the melding/bonding is likely going to help her fit into Shepard's life. She was more human in her emotions in ME2 than any other Asari we've seen. It stands to reason there are few such parings given humans have only been on the scene for 30 some years. Who knows what the mental and emotional impact really is given the 'resistance/strength' of the human mind.

All that aside, there is a real possibility that events can keep them apart if they choose to let them. They are both guilty of getting focused on others needs before their own; for different reasons. Selfish reasons aside (Promise of Sheps resurrection), Liara is propelled into obsession by guilt, as expressed in ME2, and Shepard, well do I need to even explain his/her dutiful insanity. I really think the Prothians messed with their family line DNA/Genetic memory (orb/trinket) in ME1, but that would mean billions would be affected if it were really 40+K years ago.

Another thing to consider is the promise she asks Shepard to make in ME2. She may be willing to do almost anything to make sure Shepard is happy, but I don't think she would just let them walk again... not now. She has also taken on a very different outlook despite her long life. She's not so convinced that the philosophy of 'enjoying the time together' is quite as important as the length of that time together anymore; 120 months with someone when you are expecting 100 years would shock pretty much anyone.

It comes down to choice, and both of them coming to the same one; stay together or don't. I'd just like to see the game have Liara make her own in some cases based on end game results.

[Deventh]

^Best comment ever.

Anyway, blue dose of the day:

Modifié par Deventh, 07 février 2012 - 05:07 .

[Yuqi]

Turbo_J wrote...

Although cliche, opposites attract. Given Shepard and Liara have truly bonded at least once if not twice, Liara is not the kind of personality to just let something like that go without a fight... not ME1 or ME2 Liara. She may have been awkward, but by no means was she even slightly weak as some perceive. She has just as formidable a will as Shep... any version of Shep, really. Also, her innate understanding of Shepard after the melding/bonding is likely going to help her fit into Shepard's life. She was more human in her emotions in ME2 than any other Asari we've seen. It stands to reason there are few such parings given humans have only been on the scene for 30 some years. Who knows what the mental and emotional impact really is given the 'resistance/strength' of the human mind.

All that aside, there is a real possibility that events can keep them apart if they choose to let them. They are both guilty of getting focused on others needs before their own; for different reasons. Selfish reasons aside (Promise of Sheps resurrection), Liara is propelled into obsession by guilt, as expressed in ME2, and Shepard, well do I need to even explain his/her dutiful insanity. I really think the Prothians messed with their family line DNA/Genetic memory (orb/trinket) in ME1, but that would mean billions would be affected if it were really 40+K years ago.

Another thing to consider is the promise she asks Shepard to make in ME2. She may be willing to do almost anything to make sure Shepard is happy, but I don't think she would just let them walk again... not now. She has also taken on a very different outlook despite her long life. She's not so convinced that the philosophy of 'enjoying the time together' is quite as important as the length of that time together anymore; 120 months with someone when you are expecting 100 years would shock pretty much anyone.

It comes down to choice, and both of them coming to the same one; stay together or don't. I'd just like to see the game have Liara make her own in some cases based on end game results.

I agree with pretty much all of this. But Sheperd really can't be called a human anymore, he/she is more like  a highly advanced android.

[moreeman06]

He/She may be more machine now than man from a physical point but Shepard still has all the emotions and ethereal experiences and abilities that we would associate with being human. but i mostly agree with Turbo J, although if it's up to me Tiberius Shepard will do everything and anything to make his relationship with Liara work and Continue.

Edit:  yay shameless Star Wars plug, can't wait to dole out $15 to Mr. Lucas on Feb. 10 to see the worst part of my favorite galaxy

Modifié par moreeman06, 07 février 2012 - 05:36 .

[Turbo_J]

Tiberius also happens to be Kirk's middle name.

As for the cybernetic complement within Shep, it's less than 20%. All the flesh is original, just reanimated or regrown from original DNA code. About 60% of the original bone structure is there (perhaps more) and the rest is metal and some electronics. This is a rough estimation based on the images shown during the reconstruction. There is probably quite a bit of nanotechnology there as well; think: poison on Omega and sedation during Arrival not working... and I am in the camp that says Shep's lifespan will be triple that of an unmodified human - save for being blown up, spaced (again) or some other hardcore violent death such marines tend to attract.

My Femsheps (one of each class) will fight for the love of their lives as well. Even the screw ups will give in, as I think Liara is going to be even harder to resist than she was in ME1. I can just here the haters already. lol

Modifié par Turbo_J, 07 février 2012 - 06:10 .

[karmensandiego]

Yuqi wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Although
cliche, opposites attract. Given Shepard and Liara have truly bonded at
least once if not twice, Liara is not the kind of personality to just
let something like that go without a fight... not ME1 or ME2 Liara. She
may have been awkward, but by no means was she even slightly weak as
some perceive. She has just as formidable a will as Shep... any version
of Shep, really. Also, her innate understanding of Shepard after the
melding/bonding is likely going to help her fit into Shepard's life. She
was more human in her emotions in ME2 than any other Asari we've seen.
It stands to reason there are few such parings given humans have only
been on the scene for 30 some years. Who knows what the mental and
emotional impact really is given the 'resistance/strength' of the human
mind.

All that aside, there is a real possibility that events can
keep them apart if they choose to let them. They are both guilty of
getting focused on others needs before their own; for different reasons.
Selfish reasons aside (Promise of Sheps resurrection), Liara is
propelled into obsession by guilt, as expressed in ME2, and Shepard,
well do I need to even explain his/her dutiful insanity. I really think
the Prothians messed with their family line DNA/Genetic memory
(orb/trinket) in ME1, but that would mean billions would be affected if
it were really 40+K years ago.

Another thing to consider is the
promise she asks Shepard to make in ME2. She may be willing to do almost
anything to make sure Shepard is happy, but I don't think she would
just let them walk again... not now. She has also taken on a very
different outlook despite her long life. She's not so convinced that the
philosophy of 'enjoying the time together' is quite as important as the
length of that time together anymore; 120 months with someone when you
are expecting 100 years would shock pretty much anyone.

It comes
down to choice, and both of them coming to the same one; stay together
or don't. I'd just like to see the game have Liara make her own in some
cases based on end game results.

I agree with pretty
much all of this. But Sheperd really can't be called a human anymore,
he/she is more like  a highly advanced android.

Loved this post.  Agreed with it all.

Also I like to think that since Shepard is part android now, she/he can live far past 200 years! Maybe even 500, who knows! 


don't burst my foolish optimism people.... <_<

Modifié par karmensandiego, 07 février 2012 - 06:10 .

[moreeman06]

Turbo_J wrote...

Tiberius also happens to be Kirk's middle name.

As for the cybernetic complement within Shep, it's less than 20%. All the flesh is original, just reanimated or regrown from original DNA code. About 60% of the original bone structure is there (perhaps more) and the rest is metal and some electronics. This is a rough estimation based on the images shown during the reconstruction. There is probably quite a bit of nanotechnology there as well; think: poison on Omega and sedation during Arrival not working... and I am in the camp that says Shep's lifespan will be triple that of an unmodified human - save for being blown up, spaced (again) or some other hardcore violent death such marines tend to attract.

My Femsheps (one of each class) will fight for the love of their lives as well. Even the screw ups will give in, as I think Liara is going to be even harder to resist than she was in ME1. I can just here the haters already. lol

Yeah a little Trek/Roman plug  for my canon shep a tribute to Tiberius Julius Caesar Great Roman General and a decent Emperor, Tiberius Gracchus one of two Plebian Tribune brother's during the early days of the Republic whose civil policies laid the groundwork for the rights of the common folk before their murders by agents of the Partician class, and of course James T. Kirk.  I did realize that alot of Shep was cloned but i felt like the Vader Quote was appropriate for the convo

Modifié par moreeman06, 07 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[Turbo_J]

Actually, since (Fem)Shep seems to have a quad, I'm going to revise my lifespan guess too 4 times human average. lol

and thanks for the props everyone. If BW wrote one character well besides Shep, it's Liara. Not even the ME2 writers could hack her up too bad despite the effort.

Oh, and not to stir the **** again, but regarding my earlier comments on Ashly. Although she was not a Tera Firma Zealot, she was a racist and a bigot in ME1 despite trying to disguise it with platitudes. From her perspective, maybe with good reason. Pay attention to her dialog. You can't compare your allies to dogs or have them compare you (as allies) to dogs and not be seen as a complete ass by anyone with half a brain. Not everyone would toss their beloved animal at a bear. But most would also not compare a sapient species to a dog either. Pretty damned easy to see why people took her comment about the keepers the wrong way... or was it the wrong way?

"...you too Shepard. How many times have you put your ass into hell for your squad"

I'd would have hoped Shep made more of an impression on Ash throughout ME1. Trust enough to come in claiming Shep's divinity and in a schizo second calls her a hater and traitor; with Garrus standing right there. lol

She will pay for her actions on Horizon in the games I let her live; even if it was the shallow writing that's at fault.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 07 février 2012 - 06:46 .

[moreeman06]

yeah i let her live to and looking at it objectively it's a bit funny especially with my bro Garrus in the squad, Other than him and Liara, Tali was about the only one i let out of the Normandy in 1 and for 2. since Shepard does have a quad and his body can apparently be basically brought back from the dead can i just say the cybernetic components are code for adamantium grafted to his skeleton and he's really just Wolverine

Edit:  Top so here's to my fave squaddies and one in particular
 

 
 
Found it on Tumblr and it amused me

Modifié par moreeman06, 07 février 2012 - 06:55 .

[Turbo_J]

^ lol

Do we get the claw as a melee attack?

Edit: Haha, that's awesome. I keep seeing Mass Effect music videos when I'm listening to some songs and see the squadies as the band in parts (where no in game video clip would fit)... too funny.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 07 février 2012 - 07:03 .