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Robhuzz

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Deventh wrote...

We saw the depressed Liara in ME2 and she even cried when se boarded the Normandy, so now i really hope she is not so much. I also would love a kiss when they first meet would be a nice reunion. :P


Unless they are under fire when they meet I consider this mandatory! No excuses. :P

But seriously I will be extremely dissapointed if they shove the entire romance (EG nothing to indicate there's a romantic relationship between Shep/Liara or put it on hold for some lame reason) only to have 1 romance scene before the final battle. Since there's no more need to really build a new romance I'm expecting something different from the usual bioware romance approach.

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Robhuzz wrote...

Like you I have also skipped the demo but from what I understand all classes except soldier can wear 2 weapons without suffering longer cooldowns on abilities. I hope this is the same for squadmembers because, if ME2 is any indication, a squadmember with only a pistol (anti armor) or only an smg (anti shields/barriers) isn't going to be too useful in combat. I hope I can simply equip Liara with a pistol and an smg and she can still use her abilities all the time and I'll be one happy panda :)


Not entirely, all classes has a certain amount of cooldown I think it is +100% (so your powers basically recharge twice as fast as normal without weapons) each weapon you equip subtracts a certain amount from that, different kinds of weapons subtracts more, I think that it runs Pistols/SMGs, Assault rifles, shotguns, sniper rifles. Heavier types of wepaons subtract even more so a widower subtracts more than a mantis sniper for instance.
I think a pistol or SMG costs about 30% so having both would subtract -60 and give you a total of about +40% cooldown. I think a shotgun is somewhere about 80% if I remeber correctly etc.
When you gets below the 0% cooldown into the negative the powers takes longer to recharge than normal, in the demo where you have one of each weapon equiped as an adept the cooldown is nearly three - four times as long as normal.

At least this is my belief judging from trying the game.

However Gerrus in the demo had both a sniper and an assault rifle and had fairly guick recharge so perhaps squadmates follow their own rules?

Modifié par Pariah Culexus, 23 février 2012 - 09:02 .


#15328
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RolandX9 wrote...

Trying to get back on topic -- anyone else worried that romanced Liara will be distant at first? I'm hoping that as soon as we get inside and ditch the helmets, I can be all "Kaidan, Vega, can you take a walk around the base for five minutes?" and get some blue reunion...but I have this weird feeling that Liara's going to be a) as depressed as Paragon Shep about the arrival of the Reapers, B) still dealing with the impact of yet another extended loss of Shepard, c) still carrying mass quantities of undeserved guilt about her actions since the end of ME1, or d) -- all of the above.

More Paragon Interrupt Hugs/Kisses are the obvious cure. Image IPB



I don't think she will be distant as much as she will buisness first. And given the circumstances of how we meet her, I think a long reunion can wait until we are onboard the Normandy.

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Tyranniac wrote...

I have returned! Also...

moreeman06 wrote...
Top  and 12 Days till we get to Embrace Eternity again:wub:


Not for us europeans!
Unless it's released the 6th on Origin regardless, which would be awesome, but I'm going to be negative and assume not unless anyone can say otherwise...
3 extra days before more Liara :(


Yeah i'm in NA but i have to wait for my physical copy to ship so you might just get the game before me anyways

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I was actually going to wait for a copy to drop down from the sky...but now i think i should just buy the game. XD

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Pariah Culexus wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Deventh wrote...

Why is everyone picking Asari adept ? >__> No love for Asari vanguard?


Asari vanguard isn't unlockable in the demo IIRC.


Why do you think that? I met someone playing an asari vanguard.


Are you sure? the last line of characters aren't avaliable for unlock in the demo

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Pariah Culexus wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Deventh wrote...

Why is everyone picking Asari adept ? >__> No love for Asari vanguard?


Asari vanguard isn't unlockable in the demo IIRC.


Why do you think that? I met someone playing an asari vanguard.


Strange.

I'm extremely jealous of them if that's true, but still, I swear half of the characters are locked in the demo :blink:

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Pariah Culexus wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Like you I have also skipped the demo but from what I understand all classes except soldier can wear 2 weapons without suffering longer cooldowns on abilities. I hope this is the same for squadmembers because, if ME2 is any indication, a squadmember with only a pistol (anti armor) or only an smg (anti shields/barriers) isn't going to be too useful in combat. I hope I can simply equip Liara with a pistol and an smg and she can still use her abilities all the time and I'll be one happy panda :)


Not entirely, all classes has a certain amount of cooldown I think it is +100% (so your powers basically recharge twice as fast as normal without weapons) each weapon you equip subtracts a certain amount from that, different kinds of weapons subtracts more, I think that it runs Pistols/SMGs, Assault rifles, shotguns, sniper rifles. Heavier types of wepaons subtract even more so a widower subtracts more than a mantis sniper for instance.
I think a pistol or SMG costs about 30% so having both would subtract -60 and give you a total of about +40% cooldown. I think a shotgun is somewhere about 80% if I remeber correctly etc.
When you gets below the 0% cooldown into the negative the powers takes longer to recharge than normal, in the demo where you have one of each weapon equiped as an adept the cooldown is nearly three - four times as long as normal.

At least this is my belief judging from trying the game.

However Gerrus in the demo had both a sniper and an assault rifle and had fairly guick recharge so perhaps squadmates follow their own rules?


I was under the impression Soldiers suffer less cooldown increase from carrying too many weapons. Even though Garrus is technically an infiltrator in ME1 and classified as a turian rebel in ME2, I feel he still counts as a soldier class.

Anyway so technically what you're saying is: Everyone starts with -100% cooldown reduction on powers with 0 weapons. Adding weapons lowers the bonus on cooldown giving you -40% CD reduction when wielding both an smg and a pistol. Going towards the negatives if you also grab an assault rifle. Sounds pretty fair. If biotic powers have been un-nerfed and tech powers do their job like in ME2 then tech/biotic oriented characters shouldn't even need that many weapons. And a pistol + smg covers pretty much every type of resistance encountered in ME2 so I imagine it'll be the same in 3.

Just 2 weeks until I find out. Waiting is getting a bit harder=]

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@Ajosraa wrote...
That looks nice, but sadly im allergic to the chemical in the food colouring.:crying:

 Alot of things with Liara are resolved in the game, and thats all I will say.

Is anyone else having lag in the multiplayer.

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Deventh wrote...

I was actually going to wait for a copy to drop down from the sky...but now i think i should just buy the game. XD


That would prooobably be the safer way to go.

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Hey my lovelies.. so I've created a bit of fan art over the years but never really shared it, so I thought that should change!
I've been working on a liara piece for the last couple of days and would LOVE to know what you folks think. I'm not really sure where to go from here, I never quite know when I've done enough so hoping for some feedback!

Image IPB :whistle:

#15337
RolandX9

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Lizardviking wrote...

RolandX9 wrote...

Trying to get back on topic -- anyone else worried that romanced Liara will be distant at first? I'm hoping that as soon as we get inside and ditch the helmets, I can be all "Kaidan, Vega, can you take a walk around the base for five minutes?" and get some blue reunion...but I have this weird feeling that Liara's going to be a) as depressed as Paragon Shep about the arrival of the Reapers, B) still dealing with the impact of yet another extended loss of Shepard, c) still carrying mass quantities of undeserved guilt about her actions since the end of ME1, or d) -- all of the above.

More Paragon Interrupt Hugs/Kisses are the obvious cure. Image IPB



I don't think she will be distant as much as she will buisness first. And given the circumstances of how we meet her, I think a long reunion can wait until we are onboard the Normandy.

I'm fine with that -- they could even lampshade it with a few longing glances between husk/Cerb/merc death -- as long as that Normandy reunion happens. Image IPB

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Pariah Culexus

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Robhuzz wrote...
I was under the impression Soldiers suffer less cooldown increase from carrying too many weapons. Even though Garrus is technically an infiltrator in ME1 and classified as a turian rebel in ME2, I feel he still counts as a soldier class.


I am not entirely sure about soldier as I havn't played them much but all clases gets passives that can reduce the weigth of weapons, for some this works for all weapon, for others only a spefic kind, in MP turians only reduce the weight of Assault rifles, while krogans reduce the wieght of shotguns if I remember corretly. I would imagine that this passive works more efficiently for soldiers, possibly by simply reducing all weights by a higher percentenge.

Robhuzz wrote...
Anyway so technically what you're saying is: Everyone starts with -100% cooldown reduction on powers with 0 weapons. Adding weapons lowers the bonus on cooldown giving you -40% CD reduction when wielding both an smg and a pistol. Going towards the negatives if you also grab an assault rifle. Sounds pretty fair. If biotic powers have been un-nerfed and tech powers do their job like in ME2 then tech/biotic oriented characters shouldn't even need that many weapons. And a pistol + smg covers pretty much every type of resistance encountered in ME2 so I imagine it'll be the same in 3.


Yeah that is about the gist of it.
While not as ungodly powerful as in ME1 biotic powers works better than in ME2 (particularly stasis which now always lets you damage what is trapped in the field) and tech-powers, especially overload, are in my opinion even better than in either game.
When playing as adept I found it work very well with only the pistol and SMG. Though it was painful when the single-player made you wear one of each weapon.

Modifié par Pariah Culexus, 23 février 2012 - 10:57 .


#15339
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Tyranniac wrote...

 I'm thinking both Liara and a lot of Sheps will be too caught up in the Reaper invasion to focus much on their relationship for the larger part of the game. I know my Shep will need Liara to comfort her if she's going to get through the war. Really hoping there'l be an opportunity for it being that way around this time. Liara should get to do paragon interrupt! Image IPB

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I did it! I did it! I successfully posted a picture!



I second that!

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Pariah Culexus

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frij wrote...

Hey my lovelies.. so I've created a bit of fan art over the years but never really shared it, so I thought that should change!
I've been working on a liara piece for the last couple of days and would LOVE to know what you folks think. I'm not really sure where to go from here, I never quite know when I've done enough so hoping for some feedback!

Image IPB :whistle:


It looks really good Image IPB.
Though I think you should be careful when drawing lines on the face of any kind, even if simple shadow effects as they have a tendency to make the face, especially if it is a woman you are painting, look older and resemple rinkles.
A female face should be as free from any kind of lines or effects as possible if painting a young character like Liara (except for freckles etc.).
But beyond that I think it is very well done. 

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Pariah Culexus wrote...

frij wrote...

Hey my lovelies.. so I've created a bit of fan art over the years but never really shared it, so I thought that should change!
I've been working on a liara piece for the last couple of days and would LOVE to know what you folks think. I'm not really sure where to go from here, I never quite know when I've done enough so hoping for some feedback!

Image IPB :whistle:


It looks really good Image IPB.
Though I think you should be careful when drawing lines on the face of any kind, even if simple shadow effects as they have a tendency to make the face, especially if it is a woman you are painting, look older and resemple rinkles.
A female face should be as free from any kind of lines or effects as possible if painting a young character like Liara (except for freckles etc.).
But beyond that I think it is very well done. 

^My thoughts also. I think you should finish the picture and fix the little problems after that. :) Great job so far.

#15342
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Liara is my favorite Mass Effect 1 character....so that means something....I'm glad she is a squadmate in Mass Effect 3....I just hope Thane, Mordin, and Samara are squadmates also in Mass Effect 3....

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Liara <3

She's my favorite character in all the Mass effect games, followed closely by Tali and Garrus. :D

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It would be nice to see the relationship alive and well in ME3 there is no your dead this time so why can it not still be going on even if it's long distance? I want to see something more come from it, wasn't it said once if you stayed loyal through the whole series you would get something in the story from it? Maybe just a rumor but I'd like to think that was true.

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How do you think you guys will spec Liara out in ME3? I'm think max out stasis, warp, pure biotic, then either max out singularity and ignore warp ammo OR max out stasis, warp amoo, warp, pure biotic to level 5 and then singularity to level 3...

Then she'll CC while Shep lays down the hurt...vanguard charge into a stasis'd enemy is frickin' awesome.

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Just a little something i found on my computer.
(It used to move slower, guess Liara decided to Party Hard)


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HolyAvenger wrote...

How do you think you guys will spec Liara out in ME3? I'm think max out stasis, warp, pure biotic, then either max out singularity and ignore warp ammo OR max out stasis, warp amoo, warp, pure biotic to level 5 and then singularity to level 3...

Then she'll CC while Shep lays down the hurt...vanguard charge into a stasis'd enemy is frickin' awesome.


Singularity all the way it's very handy to clear a group of enemies up.

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Haseeo wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

How do you think you guys will spec Liara out in ME3? I'm think max out stasis, warp, pure biotic, then either max out singularity and ignore warp ammo OR max out stasis, warp amoo, warp, pure biotic to level 5 and then singularity to level 3...

Then she'll CC while Shep lays down the hurt...vanguard charge into a stasis'd enemy is frickin' awesome.


Singularity all the way it's very handy to clear a group of enemies up.


Ehh, been playing a lot MP, singularity is the one adept power I've been least impressed by. Stasis bubble >>> singularity imo.

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It's great to see this thread so active. Here's a screenshot I haven't posted in awhile...

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Started a new renegade Femshep in ME in time for ME3, and just completed Therum. <3 'Liara T'soni, I presume..?'

I love how indignant Liara gets when Shep accuses her of playing around with the Prothean tech. 'I wasn't going to let the Geth capture me! And besides, I know how it works. ... Mostly.'

Gets me every time. ^^