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#16626
AlexMBrennan

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Wiki magic's a bit slow, so no idea. You could either contribute by experimenting (For Science!), or play it safe and reload an earlier save.

are there other endings no one haas had yet or something??

I rather doubt it - look at the movies folder (./BIOGame/Movies), and you'll find that there's little variation (cannon fodder in London cheers/barely wins/gets vaporised) but that's about it.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 08 mars 2012 - 10:13 .


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Edit: Oops

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

like Shepard keeping his/her proposal and promise to Liara during the cabin scene of LotSB

Well, it's not Shepard that's breaking her promise but an act of God [word is that it's a bug and thus non-canonical]
 



I was actually expecting the two of them to be *spoilers*-

together in the end, "like marriage, old age and lots of little blue children ending", not like those endings where let's just say that they get separated.

I just hope that they give us a better ending. I don't think I'm alone in wishing for a happily-ever-after ending for Shepard and Liara (and the Normandy team). I hope they're listening right now..

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*enter here without reading any post for avoiding spoilers*

I've just bought today my ME3 and I had installed it so I can enter here and say HI to all the Blue followers, either the ancient ones (Alex, Moreeman, PMC, FdL_Ananas, Yuqi and the others) and also hi to the newest ones (those who I havn't seen here before :)


do you know guys who has come??:
DEM EYES!
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EDIT: moreeman, I support Godly Chocolate Armor, you know^^
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see ya guys on MP for those of the Clan

*goes out without reading anything*

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Still having no luck; if anyone could share information about Aethyta's location (in time and space) and the conditions for her appearance I'd appreciate it.
Edit: OK, she suddenly appeared after re-entering the area, which makes total sense I guess.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 08 mars 2012 - 12:09 .


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I made a thread in the technical support forum about the Liara romance glitch.

If we can all comment on it, maybe it will get noticed and fixed in a patch someday.

Modifié par ratzerman, 08 mars 2012 - 12:26 .


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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Wiki magic's a bit slow, so no idea. You could either contribute by experimenting (For Science!), or play it safe and reload an earlier save.

are there other endings no one haas had yet or something??

I rather doubt it - look at the movies folder (./BIOGame/Movies), and you'll find that there's little variation (cannon fodder in London cheers/barely wins/gets vaporised) but that's about it.


Can confirm that I screwed up and didn't end up romancing Liara, ergo I'm guessing joining Samantha in the shower is the locking event for that romance.

First thing next time I play is to go back (luckily only a few hours worth) and stay true to Liara :wub:

Who said the Normandy wasn't a TARDIS? :ph34r:

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Erh, this is just sad. More I think of it, more screwed I feel. Oh well, seems like my gamer-heart needed a little breaking. So pointless. Head-canon or fan-fic, anyone?

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Thomas477 wrote...

Can confirm that I screwed up and didn't end up romancing Liara, ergo I'm guessing joining Samantha in the shower is the locking event for that romance.

First thing next time I play is to go back (luckily only a few hours worth) and stay true to Liara :wub:

Who said the Normandy wasn't a TARDIS? :ph34r:


Well... ****.

I went for about 6hrs after I went with Sam. To stay the course or go back... Hm...

:unsure:

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Staindgrey, sorry to break it to you and there may be a chance after the first stage of taking back earth, but it's about 1am here and ive got work tomorrow, so I didn't explore past it.

What you could do is finish that one then go back to your last liara save and go from there, which is probs what I'm going to do ( my current playthrough is get to the end ASAP, haven't even gottent the dlc squad mate yet )

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Hey you know what guys? The ending is still open to headcanon, provided Shepard survived.

There is nothing that indicates that they are "forever stranded". For all we know, they are at most a few weeks of FTL away.

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Well, there aren't any hard numbers to be found but the codex says that Mass Relays allow the instantaneous journeys for distances that would take centuries at FTL speed; thus it doesn't really matter whether or not Shepard lived because he'll be dead by the time the rescue ships get back to Earth.

Edit: I think rejecting a bit of canon (pretend the crash didn't happen and Normandy was instead fighting Reapers) is preferable to creating an inconsistent universe (nonsensical FTL).

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 08 mars 2012 - 02:40 .


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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Well, there aren't any hard numbers to be found but the codex says that Mass Relays allow the instantaneous journeys for distances that would take centuries at FTL speed; thus it doesn't really matter whether or not Shepard lived because he'll be dead by the time the rescue ships get back to Earth.

Edit: I think rejecting a bit of canon (pretend the crash didn't happen and Normandy was instead fighting Reapers) is preferable to creating an inconsistent universe (nonsensical FTL).


True, but we also know that the reapers went from dark space to the galaxy in ... Six months. Using "slow" FTL. Face it, FTL in the Mass Effect universe is already nonsensical.
And as for what the codex says, maybe it implies a journey through multiple relays, for all we know.

Aaaand the Normandy may have dropped out of FTL midway through the passage in the relay.

I don't think given what we already know there is no place to headcannon a proper reunion.


Personally, i take the "Shepard survived" ending as an open ending: after that, anything is possible and up to your imagination.

EDIT: just checked the codex on mass relays, it says "years or even decades". The Charon relay leads to Arcturus, which is at a relatively short distance from Sol (check the galaxy map in ME3, i think it's the shortest Mass Relay jump on the whole map). So you can take it that they are at most a few months away from rescue. A long time, but not unthinkable. It's all a matter of personal interpretation really, i don't think BW is going to clear things up regarding this anytime soon.

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Still having no luck; if anyone could share information about Aethyta's location (in time and space) and the conditions for her appearance I'd appreciate it.
Edit: OK, she suddenly appeared after re-entering the area, which makes total sense I guess.


Wait, what? really? you can find her in ME3? is that confirmed? 

Modifié par Arlionis, 08 mars 2012 - 03:08 .


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AlexMBrennan

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Yes, just spoke to her. Dialogue is pretty much what you'd have expected from the leak (although partly NPC banter so you'll have to leave the area half a dozen times to hear all of it...). Her VA is officially credited in ME3.

True, but we also know that the reapers went from dark space to the galaxy in ... Six months. Using "slow" FTL. Face it, FTL in the Mass Effect universe is already nonsensical.

Fair enough

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 08 mars 2012 - 03:14 .


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Arlionis wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Still having no luck; if anyone could share information about Aethyta's location (in time and space) and the conditions for her appearance I'd appreciate it.
Edit: OK, she suddenly appeared after re-entering the area, which makes total sense I guess.


Wait, what? really? you can find her in ME3? is that confirmed? 


Yeah, at one moment between main quests missions (forgot which ones), she can be found on the citadel, behind the bar just 15 meters from Liara at the Presidium Commons. There's a quite hilarious discussion between Aethyta and Liara after that.

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brainless78 wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Still having no luck; if anyone could share information about Aethyta's location (in time and space) and the conditions for her appearance I'd appreciate it.
Edit: OK, she suddenly appeared after re-entering the area, which makes total sense I guess.


Wait, what? really? you can find her in ME3? is that confirmed? 


Yeah, at one moment between main quests missions (forgot which ones), she can be found on the citadel, behind the bar just 15 meters from Liara at the Presidium Commons. There's a quite hilarious discussion between Aethyta and Liara after that.


I can't believe I missed it, I went to the Citadel very often.

#16643
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Im starting to wonder if the reason for the glitch with Liara and seemingly not recignizing LotSB is because of multipule condition flags overwriting eachother.

A similar situation happened to Conrad Verner in ME2 on Illium. He would default to a renegade conversation. The only way to get the Paragon convo was to use the Gibbed save editor.

While inside the editor it could be seen that EACH conversation was checked(in ME2). So, only the renegade convo came through as default.

Perhaps this is happening in ME3.

Miss Sylvf if your listening, start their for any potential bug searches:)

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There are three states right?

1) Don't invite to cabin. No romance obv.
2) Invite to cabin: Paragon...continue romance.
3) Invite to cabin: Renegade...Liara leaves. No romance.

#16645
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Hey everyone! I had a few quick questions regarding Liara's romance in ME3. I'll keep it spoiler free!

So, I'm about 13 hours into the game. I've done a lot of war asset missions, a couple N7 ones, and pretty much the only missions I have to do right now are a few side ones and the Genophage mission. I thought I'd give you that info in case you needed specifics. Here are my questions:

When are you suppose to get the invite from Liara to meet up at the Citadel? I read through a romance guide that said you were suppose to get it after talking with her about The Project, but I haven't received it yet.

The IGN romance guide also states that you need to talk to her on the Citadel before the second Priority: Citadel mission. Which I believe takes place directly after the Genophage mission. So how often are you suppose to talk to her on the Citadel? And what are the specific conversations? I've only had the chance to talk to her where she ends the conversation saying Barla Von could provide mercs for us, and talking to Liara about her meeting Aethyta. Are there any other conversations I've missed?

And to finish, am I suppose to receive the message before or after the second Priority: Citadel mission?

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LetsGoToMyHouse wrote...

Hey everyone! I had a few quick questions regarding Liara's romance in ME3. I'll keep it spoiler free!

So, I'm about 13 hours into the game. I've done a lot of war asset missions, a couple N7 ones, and pretty much the only missions I have to do right now are a few side ones and the Genophage mission. I thought I'd give you that info in case you needed specifics. Here are my questions:

When are you suppose to get the invite from Liara to meet up at the Citadel? I read through a romance guide that said you were suppose to get it after talking with her about The Project, but I haven't received it yet.

The IGN romance guide also states that you need to talk to her on the Citadel before the second Priority: Citadel mission. Which I believe takes place directly after the Genophage mission. So how often are you suppose to talk to her on the Citadel? And what are the specific conversations? I've only had the chance to talk to her where she ends the conversation saying Barla Von could provide mercs for us, and talking to Liara about her meeting Aethyta. Are there any other conversations I've missed?

And to finish, am I suppose to receive the message before or after the second Priority: Citadel mission?


It's relatively far into the game, but at one moment you get like 3 or 4 mails at once of squadmates who'd like to meet you on the Citadel.

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brainless78 wrote...

LetsGoToMyHouse wrote...

Hey everyone! I had a few quick questions regarding Liara's romance in ME3. I'll keep it spoiler free!

So, I'm about 13 hours into the game. I've done a lot of war asset missions, a couple N7 ones, and pretty much the only missions I have to do right now are a few side ones and the Genophage mission. I thought I'd give you that info in case you needed specifics. Here are my questions:

When are you suppose to get the invite from Liara to meet up at the Citadel? I read through a romance guide that said you were suppose to get it after talking with her about The Project, but I haven't received it yet.

The IGN romance guide also states that you need to talk to her on the Citadel before the second Priority: Citadel mission. Which I believe takes place directly after the Genophage mission. So how often are you suppose to talk to her on the Citadel? And what are the specific conversations? I've only had the chance to talk to her where she ends the conversation saying Barla Von could provide mercs for us, and talking to Liara about her meeting Aethyta. Are there any other conversations I've missed?

And to finish, am I suppose to receive the message before or after the second Priority: Citadel mission?


It's relatively far into the game, but at one moment you get like 3 or 4 mails at once of squadmates who'd like to meet you on the Citadel.



Oh okay! Wonderful! Thank you very much! Does it matter that I only was able to say "So do I," to Liara during The Project scene? I believe it was posted that it still means you are in the relationship?

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Ajosraa wrote...

Im starting to wonder if the reason for the glitch with Liara and seemingly not recignizing LotSB is because of multipule condition flags overwriting eachother.

A similar situation happened to Conrad Verner in ME2 on Illium. He would default to a renegade conversation. The only way to get the Paragon convo was to use the Gibbed save editor.

While inside the editor it could be seen that EACH conversation was checked(in ME2). So, only the renegade convo came through as default.

Perhaps this is happening in ME3.

Miss Sylvf if your listening, start their for any potential bug searches:)


May very well be that. Is there a way to edit those flags, because as far as I know the ME2 editor doesn't include the LotSB flags. 

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Galadh wrote...

Erh, this is just sad. More I think of it, more screwed I feel. Oh well, seems like my gamer-heart needed a little breaking. So pointless. Head-canon or fan-fic, anyone?

I finished the game about 30 minutes ago and I have no idea what I am going to do about fan-fic now.  I always try to keep it within the canon of the game and now I don't know. 

I feel gutted.  I'm not mad about the ending, just sad.  :(

I guess it's safe for me to wonder around BSN now. 


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ladyvader wrote...

Galadh wrote...

Erh, this is just sad. More I think of it, more screwed I feel. Oh well, seems like my gamer-heart needed a little breaking. So pointless. Head-canon or fan-fic, anyone?

I finished the game about 30 minutes ago and I have no idea what I am going to do about fan-fic now.  I always try to keep it within the canon of the game and now I don't know. 


There are ways around, see my posts last page.