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[AlexMBrennan]

Does anyone else expect there will be a high rate of ME3 trade-ins?

After EA not agreeing to sufficiently favourable terms with Game, forcing us to buy digital Origin? Not really...

[karmensandiego]

doozer12 wrote...

http://paragadeshep....the-me3-endings

I found it Thought provoking. it made me hopeful again. oh god i need hope! bioware dont take it all away!! My optimism is all ready shattered! Give me hope! Wont somebody please think of the little blue children! ....bah.,

Ooooo... this is good too!  But just in case it doesn't work out, I have my happy implausible headcanon!

GROUP HUG IT OUT LIARA THREAD. GROUP HUG.

[Yuqi]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Does anyone else expect there will be a high rate of ME3 trade-ins?

After EA not agreeing to sufficiently favourable terms with Game, forcing us to buy digital Origin? Not really...

Hmmn I can never buy digital games, so eh. I still expect by next week the massive trade in will begin.

Modifié par Yuqi, 11 mars 2012 - 07:13 .

[DOsquareZER]

I think i feel better now... no. wait. *reloads**puts it on loop* there we go.

[HetmanNG]

Yuqi wrote...

Nope thats normal.

There is a bug however with LOTSB dialouge.
If youre-affirmed the relationship in LOTSB Liara should say: " I will
never forget that tour of the normandy. But lets be honest, it's been
more then half a year."

Instead  you get  the: 'It's been years since we were together." line.

I have 2 questions more

1. This dialogue is when he fights with Liara on Illium, in SB base or when Shepard invites her to Normandy?

2. It's possible to do properly that sequence? Which dialogue I must choose?

Sorry for the pressure/importunity but I'd like to hear the dialogues (if any dialogues existing in ME3) when Liara and Shepard are already something more than a couple.

Thx for advice

Modifié par HetmanNG, 11 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[coles4971]

Hey guys, it's "alex90c", I screwed my email over so I couldn't register ME3 properly so I just made a new account using my 360 gamertag instead, lol.

But while I thought literally 99.9% of ME3 was amazing (barring a few problems ... though I was willing to overlook them), literally the last five minutes just had me feeling empty inside.

[GODofWAR93]

There is still hope! I truly believe that the ending was all just a dream.
-how did the illusive man come out of nowhere and most importantly how did he just happen to walk by reaper forces and harbinger when he clearly dies from ONE single bullet to the chest
-when Shepard is first leaving Earth and he is looking down at the child it seems that the soldiers just walked by this child, it's like he never even existed
-when the Catalyst is speaking to Shepard a very disturbing voice can be heard underneath the voice of the child, LISTEN CAREFULLY!
-the Catalyst refers to itself as 'we'/'us' not 'I'

This trilogy will not be complete until I see those little blue children!
As to the bug, Liara mentions the children but I did not get that 'tour of the Normandy' line and I had to say that I wanted to be more than just friends. I'm hoping they fix this soon.

Modifié par GODofWAR93, 11 mars 2012 - 10:27 .

[Turbo_J]

I'm back.

I finished on the 8th... It's been a fun ride; not. I've slept very little, and still have a bit of hollowness in my gut. Hate the end but I have a hunch it's not the end. For three days I agonized over this 'nails in the coffin' blow to the entire series, retroactively rendering it unplayable. I over reacted, mostly due to an unexpected volatile emotional reaction. Only ME could do that. Never before, and I really hope never again. I just can't see how getting this attached to a video game can possibly be healthy... but I did. Maybe it was just Sheps hope and power I was attached too. Not going to analyze and digress.

So during my mourning and reflection a few things came to mind... I have already ripped all three ME's from my computer, so I had only memory to go by...

The kid: Hated him. Partly because my Shep acted totally OOC... I didn't get Shep being pushed into feeling anything for one kid I saw for 30 seconds. It was too OOC.

The dreams: First one odd. Second one pissed me off. Why is this happening. My Shep wouldn't morn one child, she would morn them all, every death. But not until the job was damn well done. If she were to dream, it would be about the the Virmire death or Saren... That's about the only two that would have a slight impact on her... Problem is, it would not work if you were an ME 3 only player...

Doctor Chakwas: Checking tech... "For what? I feel just as good as ever." Or does she...

Kid: 'Again with you, little brat. Get out of my dreams!' The one where Shep burns too, I ignored. Big mistake. Whispering... The whispering. PAY ATTENTION! I have to do what is says! They just keep talking...

Off Topic to my point but needed. The gift... If it really happened, it was not a normal Bond. If you are in a romance with Liara, she took your DNA. Mark my words.

I actually started to assume Shep was indoctrinated at this point, or Liara may have been, or both; but the scene was so touching I shrugged it off; after the tears stopped of course. I still well up when I think of that moment and the romance scene. "Best ever visually because of the biotics... though not as passionate and special as ME1. Still made me feel very warm and fuzzy... and cry, of course. I digress, sorry...

From the hit by Harbinger to the end does not really happen in 'game reality' time. Not sure about the Stargazer part (stupid) but it may be part of the hallucination too.

Shoot at one of the keepers. Shoot 10 times.

Try to kill Anderson before TIM shows up. I fired blind when I entered the Crucible deck. He shouldn't have been there. He would not have passed Shep and just left her for dead if she had a pulse. There was also only one way to get to the control panel and if I was there and unconscious, he would have woken me up.

Shep has no HUD, Ammo?
Shep does not have biotics if applicable.
No helmet and Shep is in open space where the Crucible attaches to the Citadel.

Shep never left earth... Choice is an illusion. There is no choice but only that originally made in ME1... Stay focused!

I killed Anderson... Yes I killed him when the game let me. No interrupt on purpose, I pulled the trigger.
I killed TIM.
I killed the Reapers.

I broke free of indoctrination and woke up on Earth... I think.

The relay's are intact, but the war is right where Shep left it... unfinished.

Think about it. Control? Not possible. You just told TIM that. Merge? What is a Reaper?

I still don't like the ending. I won't 'pay' for the real ending either... I'm hoping it will just be unlocked at a later date. I won't by any DLCs until the ending is either revealed; or if this was really BioWare's ending, I won't buy any DLCs until it's fixed; Shep/LI/Squad tie up if alive, LI/Squad tie up if dead, and some kind of codex epilogue.

"We deserve better than this!"

There was no epilogue so it's not over.

I reinstalled and I'm on a game+ I'm going to pay much much more attention. There may be even more going on than I recalled here.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 11 mars 2012 - 11:54 .

[Boris_Ramirez]

Hello guys, long time lurker here. I read the endings and I'm still really pissed off. WHAT HAPPENNED TO THE BLUE CHILDREN!?!?!

[Yuqi]

Turbo_J wrote...

Off Topic to my point but needed. The gift... If it really happened, it was not a normal Bond. If you are in a romance with Liara, she took your DNA. Mark my words.

I have to admit the whole gift scene was suspect, especially if you consider what she says before.(With a lotsb import.)

END GAME SPOILER BELOW.

Liara:All those little blue children will be disappointed I didn't have a speech.
Shepard: We'll make up a good story for them.

Modifié par Yuqi, 11 mars 2012 - 12:12 .

[Erenbe]

Turbo_J wrote...

I actually started to assume Shep was indoctrinated at this point, 

That might be a theory but it would still doesn't seem to be logical.

1. IIRC, indoctrination doesn't work from one day to the other...it is a -somewhat- lengthy process (Reaper IFF in ME2, Cerberus personel was even commenting on how weird things became for them over a longer stretch of time). Shepard was never exposed to reaper tech/artifacts for prolonged amounts of time. The only occasions I can come up with right now are in ME2 (Reaper IFF, Collector's base maybe, Arrival DLC and maybe one or two side-missions?). So how can the reapers then continue with an indoctrination process if there is nothing nearby that would influence Shepard. Unless the Lazarus project was an elaborated scheme by TIM to incorporate reaper tech parts into Shepard...but that was never mentioned or hinted at or was it?

2. Let's assume the mere presence of a reaper is enough to indoctrinate someone which is obviously possible as Saren got indoctrinated while being in/on Sovereign. Why then only do that with Shepard? Taking the amount of reapers attacking different planets the incredible amount of reaper ships would be enough to indoctrinate basically everyone...so why not take the easy way out and make everyone stop fighting? Seems a bit odd to go through the lengthy process of fighting their way through everyone. They could just come to Earth...sit in orbit without attacking (making people wonder in the meantime) and let their reaper waves do their thing.  That would of course make ME3 a rather short game but hey....whatever.

It's a compelling theory though and would explain why the Renegade option seems to be the only one that would actually get rid of the reapers....but even then there are too many logical issues. But maybe I am not able to grasp the nature of ME reaper logic...or the endings. 

I just realize that this is totally off-topic. 

To mend this....people are assuming Liara got pregnant in that last goodbye scene when transferring memories into Shepard's brrrrraaaain. I read though that her eyes didn't turn black? Any ideas on that?

[Mhgasa]

Yuqi wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Off Topic to my point but needed. The gift... If it really happened, it was not a normal Bond. If you are in a romance with Liara, she took your DNA. Mark my words.

I have to admit the whole gift scene was suspect, especially if you consider what she says before.(With a lotsb import.)

END GAME SPOILER BELOW.

Liara:All those little blue children will be disappointed I didn't have a speech.
Shepard: We'll make up a good story for them.

What gift exactly? i remember the dialog at the end

[Yuqi]

Mhgasa wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Off Topic to my point but needed. The gift... If it really happened, it was not a normal Bond. If you are in a romance with Liara, she took your DNA. Mark my words.

I have to admit the whole gift scene was suspect, especially if you consider what she says before.(With a lotsb import.)

END GAME SPOILER BELOW.

Liara:All those little blue children will be disappointed I didn't have a speech.
Shepard: We'll make up a good story for them.

What gift exactly? i remember the dialog at the end

That weird sequance where she shows shepard her conciousness.

[Turbo_J]

Erenbe wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

I actually started to assume Shep was indoctrinated at this point, 

That might be a theory but it would still doesn't seem to be logical.

1. IIRC, indoctrination doesn't work from one day to the other...it is a -somewhat- lengthy process (Reaper IFF in ME2, Cerberus personel was even commenting on how weird things became for them over a longer stretch of time). Shepard was never exposed to reaper tech/artifacts for prolonged amounts of time. The only occasions I can come up with right now are in ME2 (Reaper IFF, Collector's base maybe, Arrival DLC and maybe one or two side-missions?). So how can the reapers then continue with an indoctrination process if there is nothing nearby that would influence Shepard. Unless the Lazarus project was an elaborated scheme by TIM to incorporate reaper tech parts into Shepard...but that was never mentioned or hinted at or was it?

2. Let's assume the mere presence of a reaper is enough to indoctrinate someone which is obviously possible as Saren got indoctrinated while being in/on Sovereign. Why then only do that with Shepard? Taking the amount of reapers attacking different planets the incredible amount of reaper ships would be enough to indoctrinate basically everyone...so why not take the easy way out and make everyone stop fighting? Seems a bit odd to go through the lengthy process of fighting their way through everyone. They could just come to Earth...sit in orbit without attacking (

I just realize that this is totally off-topic. 

To mend this....people are assuming Liara got pregnant in that last goodbye scene when transferring memories into Shepard's brrrrraaaain. I read though that her eyes didn't turn black? Any ideas on that?

Lazerus Project. Shep is around reaper tech more than anyone else. She is, however, also more resistant to it, given she has been fine for over a year with the crap inside her. It's probably not as potent when not around actual reapers, but now they are everywhere... and she has been fighting it since they arrived, day 1. The kid was not, or may not be real. There is some conflicting evidence on that though. I just did the scene... the reaper scream you hear, coisides with Shep looking away from the kid. Then looking back into the duct. The boy is also ignored by adults (is he real) by the shuttle... who wouldn't help a kid into the shuttle? And how/why is he looking at Shep and not the Reapers or turmoil going on directly around him? He also seemed to respond to the Reaper by getting into the shuttle... not out of fear, but as if it was an order.

As for the Meld. Her eyes went black for me - and they were WOW black... like better than Shiala black and almost teary. Amazing and gave me chills. Would have scared the crap out of Shep if she didn't love her. She also said "I love you." for the second time, hoever, shep did not reply the same. I chalked that up to focus on the war. Little cold, as my Shep in charachter could have responded in kind.

If someone did not get this, maybe they were not romanced, or the romance was within ME3 only... not from ME1 on. <-Speculation only. It all is, really. Including my little blue baby hypothysis and the Reaper kid.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 11 mars 2012 - 01:01 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Turbo_J wrote...

No offence but I do not get this theory, it really just sounds like something alot of people are clinging to so they can tell themselves that the ending they saw was not really happening.

[coles4971]

Lizardviking wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

No offence but I do not get this theory, it really just sounds like something alot of people are clinging to so they can tell themselves that the ending they saw was not really happening.

You can hardly blame them, the endings are horrible.

They're that depressing, I might even resort to reading fanfiction to fill in the gaps, and I've never read FF in my life. Well unless Bioware fix the ending.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

coles4971 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

No offence but I do not get this theory, it really just sounds like something alot of people are clinging to so they can tell themselves that the ending they saw was not really happening.

You can hardly blame them, the endings are horrible.

They're that depressing, I might even resort to reading fanfiction to fill in the gaps, and I've never read FF in my life. Well unless Bioware fix the ending.

Yeah but denying it just won't help really. Just accept that the endings were awful and start to headcanon it.

[Charsi]

Turbo_J wrote...

Erenbe wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

I actually started to assume Shep was indoctrinated at this point, 

That might be a theory but it would still doesn't seem to be logical.

1. IIRC, indoctrination doesn't work from one day to the other...it is a -somewhat- lengthy process (Reaper IFF in ME2, Cerberus personel was even commenting on how weird things became for them over a longer stretch of time). Shepard was never exposed to reaper tech/artifacts for prolonged amounts of time. The only occasions I can come up with right now are in ME2 (Reaper IFF, Collector's base maybe, Arrival DLC and maybe one or two side-missions?). So how can the reapers then continue with an indoctrination process if there is nothing nearby that would influence Shepard. Unless the Lazarus project was an elaborated scheme by TIM to incorporate reaper tech parts into Shepard...but that was never mentioned or hinted at or was it?

2. Let's assume the mere presence of a reaper is enough to indoctrinate someone which is obviously possible as Saren got indoctrinated while being in/on Sovereign. Why then only do that with Shepard? Taking the amount of reapers attacking different planets the incredible amount of reaper ships would be enough to indoctrinate basically everyone...so why not take the easy way out and make everyone stop fighting? Seems a bit odd to go through the lengthy process of fighting their way through everyone. They could just come to Earth...sit in orbit without attacking (

I just realize that this is totally off-topic. 

To mend this....people are assuming Liara got pregnant in that last goodbye scene when transferring memories into Shepard's brrrrraaaain. I read though that her eyes didn't turn black? Any ideas on that?

Lazerus Project. Shep is around reaper tech more than anyone else. She is, however, also more resistant to it, given she has been fine for over a year with the crap inside her. It's probably not as potent when not around actual reapers, but now they are everywhere... and she has been fighting it since they arrived, day 1. The kid was not, or may not be real. There is some conflicting evidence on that though. I just did the scene... the reaper scream you hear, coisides with Shep looking away from the kid. Then looking back into the duct. The boy is also ignored by adults (is he real) by the shuttle... who wouldn't help a kid into the shuttle? And how/why is he looking at Shep and not the Reapers or turmoil going on directly around him? He also seemed to respond to the Reaper by getting into the shuttle... not out of fear, but as if it was an order.

As for the Meld. Her eyes went black for me - and they were WOW black... like better than Shiala black and almost teary. Amazing and game me chills. Would have scared the crap out of Shep if she didn't love her. If someone did not get this, maybe they were not romanced, or the romance was within ME3 only... not from ME1 on. <-Speculation only. It all is, really. Including my little blue baby hypothysis and the Reaper kid.

Liara  is still considered a child by the Asari who can live up to 1000 years old, they won't feel like reproducing until they enter their Matron stage, which is around 350-500 Years if im not mistaken.
Liara is to young to have child's!

[Turbo_J]

Lizardviking wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

No offence but I do not get this theory, it really just sounds like something alot of people are clinging to so they can tell themselves that the ending they saw was not really happening.

I still hate it on one hand and expect a proper ending... without having to pay for it. If it does not come to pass I'll speak clearly with my pocket book. The endings as they stands, retroactively ruins the series; result in ZERO replayability. I won't be able to ever play the game again if a true result of Sheps efforts and epilogue do not eventually come. That will effectively end my relationship with BioWare.

But if I'm right I won't be surprised. If you can stomach another play-through; something agonozing for me but I'm trying, look for the clues. Shepard is at the final stages of indoctination after the near miss with the Reaper beam. The last deam is a good subconcious warning... Side with the kid... you die.

Listen in the deams... don't just rush to the boy... listen.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 11 mars 2012 - 01:10 .

[Turbo_J]

Charsi wrote...


Liara  is still considered a child by the Asari who can live up to 1000 years old, they won't feel like reproducing until they enter their Matron stage, which is around 350-500 Years if im not mistaken.
Liara is to young to have child's!

Go back and read the codex. Asari reach maturity between 40-60 but do not normally reproduce until the Matron Stage. Stages of life, however are not tied to physical age. They can enter any later stage depending on circomstances and personal choice. They can also take the DNA 'info' of a mate and store it for later use.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 11 mars 2012 - 01:24 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Turbo_J wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

No offence but I do not get this theory, it really just sounds like something alot of people are clinging to so they can tell themselves that the ending they saw was not really happening.

I still hate it on one hand and expect a proper ending... without having to pay for it. If it does not come to pass I'll speak clearly with my pocket book. The endings as they stands, retroactively ruins the series; result in ZERO replayability. I won't be able to ever play the game again if a true result of Sheps efforts and epilogue do not eventually come. That will effectively end my relationship with BioWare.

But if I'm right I won't be surprised. If you can stomach another play-through; something agonozing for me but I'm trying, look for the clues. Shepard is at the final stages of indoctination after the near miss with the Reaper beam. The last deam is a good subconcious warning... Side with the kid... you die.

Listen in the deams... don't just rush to the boy... listen.

Execpt we know that it is reality, both the epilogue and the datapad in the end supports this. Just accept that Bioware ****ed these endings up way beyond imagining.

"EDIT"

Sorry if I am getting off way too rude. It is not my intention.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 11 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[coles4971]

I still can't believe Bioware were able to destroy the replayability of their entire franchise in the period of five minutes.

I mean jeez, I don't even care that ME3 is linear as hell, if the ending was satisfying I'd still play it again and again. But knowing that in the end all we'll get is ... that ... well, I don't think I'm going to be doing the ME1 > ME2 > ME3 one after the other plan for a while.

[Turbo_J]

[/quote]

Execpt we know that it is reality, both the epilogue and the datapad in the end supports this. Just accept that Bioware ****ed these endings up way beyond imagining.

"EDIT"

Sorry if I am getting off way too rude. It is not my intention.

[/quote]

Haha, ya beat me too it. I don't mean to push this as fact or canon, it's just what I've seen in the game. That is why I'm playing it one more time. I really think Shep is indoctrinated though... not fully, but getting really close. Also, stargazer is not an epilogiue. It's a modified free internet background with a pedo grandpa telling a child about blood, gore, and (alien) sex. I don't buy it. As for the datapad - sure, that's real, but so was Shep waking up on Earth... space majik or never left?

Too much OT Blue...

https://encrypted-tb...hie-GfC6KBUapWQ

Modifié par Turbo_J, 11 mars 2012 - 01:35 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

[quote]Turbo_J wrote...


[/quote]

Execpt we know that it is reality, both the epilogue and the datapad in the end supports this. Just accept that Bioware ****ed these endings up way beyond imagining.

"EDIT"

Sorry if I am getting off way too rude. It is not my intention.

[/quote]

Haha, ya beat me too it. I don't mean to push this as fact or canon, it's just what I've seen in the game. That is why I'm playing it one more time. I really think Shep is indoctrinated though... not fully, but getting really close. Also, stargazer is not an epilogiue. It's a modified free internet background with a pedo grandpa telling a child about blood, gore, and (alien) sex. I don't buy it. As for the datapad - sure, that's real, but so was Shep waking up on Earth... space majik or never left?
[/quote]

The datapad saying that Shepard has become a legend for stopping the Reapers is metagame knowlegde. So it confirms that Shepard did stop the Reapers in the way we were shown.

[Reiisha]

Yuqi wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

http://paragadeshep....the-me3-endings

I found it Thought provoking. it made me hopeful again. oh god i need hope! bioware dont take it all away!! My optimism is all ready shattered! Give me hope! Wont somebody please think of the little blue children! ....bah.,

^This could work actually.

Does anyone else expect there will be a high rate of ME3 trade-ins? I'm tempted to, very tempted in fact.

You just gave me hope....