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[Arlionis]

Galadh, also that slow-motion, gloomy feeling after waking up, the monster running in slowmo and the Marauder that appears out of nowhere and doesn't start shooting until Shepard shoots. Let alone that Anderson is alive (friendly figure, pretty common in nightmares to appear as a relief).

Now, the most important thing for me is that Shepard can see in some cases the sometimes some of the squadmates from the last mission stepping out of the Normandy. If that isn't a dream I don't know what.

Maybe I'm just trying to negate such a, if you want, traumatic experience, but I hope it was all a bad hallucination.

[Turbo_J]

Trying to find happiness; dream at the end, with the ship. Especially given they were the one's with you unless Edi was one of them, then it's Squadi and Garrus (my BFF). Shep's subconscious thinks Edi (Squadie) is gone so she does not show up. It would trick most players into thinking the choice was real, but then why - if you have the criteria - does Shep wake on earth. You can't fall off a space station/get spaced and survive without a suit... well, Shep can after some Lazerus majik, but that's not instant. lol

[HetmanNG]

GODofWAR93 wrote...
 Must be some sort of indoctrination and personally I don't believe that Bioware will give us an ending without an epic encounter with Harbinger, he was barely mentioned in ME3

I hope so too

[ladyvader]

doozer12 wrote...

I donno... this game did something for me that few have - and that's make me feel something. It did a good job on that in most places, up until the end...after that I just felt...sucker punched really. Makes it hard to replay with that in mind. Bioware should have spent another year on this game, some locations felt lazy and like they burnt themselves out and wanted to get this game done and over with. While other sections ranked alongside LotSB content. *shrugs* ionno some aspects held greater potential than what Bioware gave.
Also Im a collector... have ME1 and 2 and no 3 would drive me buggy...no matter how hollow/confused the damn thing left me feeling.

I won't be trading in my ga,me.  I'm already in the middle of a second playthrough.  I have to see the ending where Shep is alive.  It's the only way I can write good fan fic.  If not, all my fic in the near future is going to be down right depressing.

[cohina]

I'm sorry if this has been said already, but I was wondering here that the reaper beam melted Shepard's body armor, but for some odd reason his head didn't burn, I mean, it doesn't really sound possible that you get hit by a reaper beam, your futuristic body armor melts onto your skin and parts of it get completely blown away, but Shepard's face only looks like somebody hit him/her a couple of times . He only had a nose bleed, bruises and cuts on his/her face. That could support this "bad dream"/"hallucination" theory.


@ladyvader

I'd happily pay another 70€ for my CE if I could get the ending of your "Aftermath", but I guess I just have to get use to the idea of not having bondmate ceremony and little blue baby asari, ever.

Modifié par cohina, 11 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[ladyvader]

Galadh wrote...

Regarding those hallucination thing theories... I know we've beaten the odds before, but getting there... I don't know, gang.

Yesterday I dismissed it prematurely, thinking someone is desperately attempting to rationalize the situation. Today I actually gave it a thought and now I see eye to eye with you. I mean, yeah. It does make perfect sense. Shepard breathing without armor during final conversation, falling from the orbit to survive and so on undoubtedly feel off. Waking up, not losing mind. Heck, regardless of what lies ahead of us I am glad we've reached such plausible conclusion.

It would be marvellous if the miracle would happen next week. Issue I've here is how anti-climax and emotionally manipulative that whole thing would be. And what's then? Another hour or two of struggling? What about music and voice actors? Is this some kind of conspiracy?

"Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever" – now, in the context of our theory... Gives me hope.

Anyway, I still believe we can win this, this way or another.


So, *group hug*. I firmly believe there is a time and place where Liara & Shep may be happy together.

Here is the question to ask yourself about the DLC plans.  Are they saying things to keep people from trading their copies in?  And are they saying what the fans want to hear?

I loved the game.  The ending gutted me and when I started a new game the same night I finished my first run, I almost started crying again because I knew Shepard lied to Liara.  But then, I think Liara knows there was a good chance Shepard wasn't coming back.

Enough about the ending.

I will say this.  Several things in the game I thought would happen did.  Cerberus did go after Liara at the base.  It wasn't a mission for Shepard, but Liara did tell Shepard about it.  I also had a feeling that Liara would take as much intel as she could from the base and keep it.  Which she did.

The romance to me was perfect.  The ending makes it bittersweet because I think all of us wanted that happy ever after ending and we didn't get it.


@cohina--I know.  I feel like I wrote that story years ago instead of last year.  

Shepard's face was bruised and battered, but Shepard also had a heavily bleeding wound on the left side that after Anderson died, I thought Shepard at that point as going to as well.  Shep could not stand up from being weaken from blood loss when Hackett started saying that it wasn't working.

Modifié par ladyvader, 11 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[coles4971]

ladyvader wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

I donno... this game did something for me that few have - and that's make me feel something. It did a good job on that in most places, up until the end...after that I just felt...sucker punched really. Makes it hard to replay with that in mind. Bioware should have spent another year on this game, some locations felt lazy and like they burnt themselves out and wanted to get this game done and over with. While other sections ranked alongside LotSB content. *shrugs* ionno some aspects held greater potential than what Bioware gave.
Also Im a collector... have ME1 and 2 and no 3 would drive me buggy...no matter how hollow/confused the damn thing left me feeling.

I won't be trading in my ga,me.  I'm already in the middle of a second playthrough.  I have to see the ending where Shep is alive.  It's the only way I can write good fan fic.  If not, all my fic in the near future is going to be down right depressing.

The "alive" ending is the exact same destroy ending, just with Shep's N7 armour shifting slightly in some rubble.

Considering he's bleeding out and everyone else just seems to have f*cked off somewhere (*cough* joker *cough*), I can't really see Shepard living, and even if he does I doubt he'll be meeting Liara any time soon.

Blergh, I can't believe a video game can depress me like this, I really wish I hadn't invested myself in the ME series now 

[Galadh]

Turbo_J wrote...

Trying to find happiness; dream at the end, with the ship. Especially given they were the one's with you unless Edi was one of them, then it's Squadi and Garrus (my BFF). Shep's subconscious thinks Edi (Squadie) is gone so she does not show up. It would trick most players into thinking the choice was real, but then why - if you have the criteria - does Shep wake on earth. You can't fall off a space station/get spaced and survive without a suit... well, Shep can after some Lazerus majik, but that's not instant. lol

Yeah, exactly.

Don't get me wrong, I am with you all hoping for the positive outcome, though it would hurt to be dissapointed...

I hope BW won't let us down.

[Arlionis]

I don't know if this is going to help, we should gather much more people in order to make a stand, but I'm not buying ANY DLC until there's an alternate endings one.

Modifié par Arlionis, 11 mars 2012 - 04:07 .

[ladyvader]

I have yet to see the ending where Shep is back on Earth. So far she has only died.

@Galadh

I don't regret for one nano-second my investment emotionally to the series. I laughed, got mad, cried, and felt contentment all in one game. Many movies or books don't have this much range of emotion.

I am not one to cry a lot and damn this game has me in tears or near tears when I really sit down to play. And speaking of playing. I'm off to see what is going on with the Geth and Quarians. I hope I can do it differently than I did the first time. Sorry Tali, I destroyed the quarians because they started a war they didn't need. I didn't activate Legion or do any of the DLC with the first file I used.

There is a difference. I don't think I am going to be the ending I want because of what is happening in game, but I will see it.

[GODofWAR93]

Turbo_J wrote...

GODofWAR93 wrote...

so I just went to the last 'nightmare' Shepard has and I was listening to what 'they' were saying, quite creepy hey not to mention that Shepard seems to be the only person to see that child even when he is leaving Earth, soldiers just passed by that child as if they did not see 'him'. Must be some sort of indoctrination and personally I don't believe that Bioware will give us an ending without an epic encounter with Harbinger, he was barely mentioned in ME3

Now you're thinking... but wait! : there's more!

Listen to the kid on Crucible... closer... the underlying voice.

Why did you go through galactic readiness, fleet, and ground assult asset gathering and not use them 'yet', but for minor support on the Crucible and local support on the ground to get you to the beam.

Why could you not argue with the 'kid' about the Geth (if you saved them) or Edi (small letters as she is fully sentient now)

Control and Merge - why are they pushed at you...

Shep to TIM on control: And what if you fail. We're all dead

Merge: What is a Reaper? Bio-Tech

Destroy: What has been your goal since ME1?

All synthetics: Oh my, sacrifice. After all you did for Edi or the Geth if you saved them...

"Hostages only work if your enemy cares that they live."

This is about organic life first (renegade). But the kid trying to pull on the heart strings of Shep for not wanting any sentient life killed, especially one's she and Legion helped, and her friendship with Edi... Hostages of the heart only work if you fall for the facade being pulled over your eyes. (Paragon)

Illusion of choice. The entire scene is a device of control, not a horridly poor, lazy ripped off ending... it's you being fooled. Indoctrinated. Take the red pill.

STAY FOCUSED Shepard! What are you here to do? What have you always been trying to do?

Too lazy and tired to spellcheck.

I certainly agree about that voice, I wrote it down in so many posts but no one seems to listen, it is CLEARLY Harbinger if not another reaper. It definitely was some sort of indoctrination and before the credits roll you can see Shepard breathing. That is immediately after he gets hit by the laser beam. There is no way that the survived the fall from the Citadel down to Earth even though he is partly synthetic. Let's just hope that Bioware end this trolling soon enough!

[jlb524]

Liara watches ending



Doesn't like it.

[Arlionis]

jlb524 wrote...

Liara watches ending



Doesn't like it.

I don't recall that part, which mission is that pic from? 

[GODofWAR93]

one more thing please tell me how TIM manages to pass by so many reapers/reaper forces and then he gets shot down and dies by one bullet to the chest, and how did Anderson not have one single scratch on him?
I must be pretty damn honest if this IS the REAL ending I don't think that Bioware would write it in such a POOR method.

[jlb524]

Arlionis wrote...

I don't recall that part, which mission is that pic from? 

On the Citadel when Shepard/crew is in the taxi and Leng attacks them.  The taxi is about to crash...Liara's still unhappy with Shepard's driving.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jlb524 wrote...

Liara watches ending



Doesn't like it.

Even the computer is displaying warning signs when playing the ending.

[Arlionis]

jlb524 wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

I don't recall that part, which mission is that pic from? 

On the Citadel when Shepard/crew is in the taxi and Leng attacks them.  The taxi is about to crash...Liara's still unhappy with Shepard's driving.

Ah yes, thank you!

[TMA LIVE]

I kind of doubt they'd make the ending of a series this long a dream. Is his mine not exactly there because it's being messed with? Sure, that works. But I doubt they'd go so far as create an epilogue, and a scene with Joker and EDI, if it was all a dream. It happened in some shape or form.

And about Anderson leaving Shepard behind, he says he appeared someone else on the Citadel. They didn't teleport to the same location.

Anyways, does anyone know what happens if you didn't do the interrupt with Liara during her breakdown scene?

[Turbo_J]

coles4971 wrote...

The "alive" ending is the exact same destroy ending, just with Shep's N7 armour shifting slightly in some rubble.

Considering he's bleeding out and everyone else just seems to have f*cked off somewhere (*cough* joker *cough*), I can't really see Shepard living, and even if he does I doubt he'll be meeting Liara any time soon.

Blergh, I can't believe a video game can depress me like this, I really wish I hadn't invested myself in the ME series now 

Nobody went anywhere. Not even you... You 'almost got tagged by the beam. It never hits you. It punches the pavement before you and buries you in rubble. You wake up after the indoctrination attempt, or kinda shift and breath... you never even made it to the beam. It was Harbi krueger.

Someone will make it, if not you, or the assets will be enough. What I suspect is an all out continuation of space, air and ground war until someone gets to the Crusible and activates the real anti-reaper EMP. It's in one of the CE  books or something... what the Crucible actually does. Probably similare to the fake activation, but damages Reapers without wrecking the Citadel or relays.

[coles4971]

Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Liara watches ending



Doesn't like it.

Even the computer is displaying warning signs when playing the ending.

When Liara plays the other endings she'll get blue and green warning signs instead.

[staindgrey]

I finally got tired of trying to make sense of that godawful ending, so I came here to talk instead about how the Liara romance in ME3 was hands down the best portrayal of romance in a videogame to date.

And instead y'all are killing the ending too.

I don't think I'll be able to avoid it for the next month. That ending was... *shudders*

[HetmanNG]

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Modifié par HetmanNG, 11 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[GODofWAR93]

one thing that really struck me in the conversation with the 'child' is when 'it' says "WE know you have thought of destroying US" and tell me why there was no choice to tell that 'child' to f*** off back to where he came from... the BIGGEST factor which has been included in ALL of the Mass Effect games is that YOU make your own decisions instead of having three different colored ones. Bioware did say 'hold on to your copies of ME3' they're trolling us, don't let them win this! Have some faith and patience, could you do that for those little blue children?

[jlb524]

staindgrey wrote...
I finally got tired of trying to make sense of that godawful ending, so I came here to talk instead about how the Liara romance in ME3 was hands down the best portrayal of romance in a videogame to date.

It was.

What parts in particular did you enjoy the most?

Edit: top

I particularly liked the ending conversation



I always wondered what 'melding' looked like.

That was the best not-real kiss ever.  

Modifié par jlb524, 11 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[Turbo_J]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I kind of doubt they'd make the ending of a series this long a dream. Is his mine not exactly there because it's being messed with? Sure, that works. But I doubt they'd go so far as create an epilogue, and a scene with Joker and EDI, if it was all a dream. It happened in some shape or form.

And about Anderson leaving Shepard behind, he says he appeared someone else on the Citadel. They didn't teleport to the same location.

Anyways, does anyone know what happens if you didn't do the interrupt with Liara during her breakdown scene?

I shot him as soon as I saw him. He wouldn't die. I shot him 10 times. Nothing. So I waited until I could kill him and let the fake TIM control kill him. Then I killed TIM. Then I told the kid to suck it and destroyed the Reapers. Indoctrination fail... Then I woke up on earth.

Remember - as for length. It's not so much a dream or hillucination as it is a type subconcious indoctrination. He's using your own implanted Reaper tech as an amplifier and tapping right into your melon.

The only real thing that happen was waking up.

Besides that, I would never not paragon int. Liara. I don't want to know what happens. lol

Modifié par Turbo_J, 11 mars 2012 - 04:45 .