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I shot him as soon as I saw him. He wouldn't die. I shot him 10 times. Nothing.


You can do the same with other characters in the game. Plot characters don't die by your gun.

There's also nothing in the secret ending that says you're on Earth.

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I'm trying SO hard to get back into ME3.... but I just can't watch Charlie suffer anymore... she has Liara, and that's about all she has cept for her best friend Ash, and mentor Anderson....

Is that the special meld I heard about?

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TMA LIVE wrote...
Anyways, does anyone know what happens if you didn't do the interrupt with Liara during her breakdown scene?


Someone answered this a few pages back

doozer12 wrote...

She threatens to kill him and than goes no theres too much death and leaves. Then you can tell prothy a couple things i cant remember ... something like dont be smug, she could have finished it...
For the record, i prefer the interupt way, makes liara feel somewhat better... i mean considering..

 


Phoenix_Fyre wrote...
Is that the special meld I heard about?


Yeah, it happens before the finale. 

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Turbo_J wrote...

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I kind of doubt they'd make the ending of a series this long a dream. Is his mine not exactly there because it's being messed with? Sure, that works. But I doubt they'd go so far as create an epilogue, and a scene with Joker and EDI, if it was all a dream. It happened in some shape or form.

And about Anderson leaving Shepard behind, he says he appeared someone else on the Citadel. They didn't teleport to the same location.

Anyways, does anyone know what happens if you didn't do the interrupt with Liara during her breakdown scene?


I shot him as soon as I saw him. He wouldn't die. I shot him 10 times. Nothing. So I waited until I could kill him and let the fake TIM control kill him. Then I killed TIM. Then I told the kid to suck it and destroyed the Reapers. Indoctrination fail... Then I woke up on earth.

Remember - as for length. It's not so much a dream or hillucination as it is a type subconcious indoctrination. He's using your own implanted Reaper tech as an amplifier and tapping right into your melon.

The only real thing that happen was waking up.

Besides that, I would never not paragon int. Liara. I don't want to know what happens. lol


You really are pushing for that theory aren't you? 

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I'm just thinking about how crazy hilarious it would be if we were being trolled. It would be one of thee best video game trolls ever. "Just kidding guys! That wasn't really the end! We got you lol."

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staindgrey wrote...
I finally got tired of trying to make sense of that godawful ending, so I came here to talk instead about how the Liara romance in ME3 was hands down the best portrayal of romance in a videogame to date.


It was.

What parts in particular did you enjoy the most?


1) The actual mo-cap. Bioware mo-cap when it comes to any sort of romance makes it look as though two mailboxes are clunking together (as an author on Kotaku so eloquently put it once). It's so much more real when we see characters holding hands at times, hugging, and then the love scene itself was just well choreographed and presented. Best polygonal kiss ever.

2) Unlike other romances in the ME series, we get multiple times to explore the romance. We get to elaborate it on the Normandy in good times, and in each character's lowest moment (Liara after Thessia broke my heart). We get to talk about it on the Citadel, with options for how serious to take it. We get small moments with other characters, like when Shep tells Javik, "She's important to me," when convincing him to tell her what he really thinks, or when other characters take note of how you should be the one to talk to her after Thessia. And that "project" she made? So. Much. D'aw. Romance isn't about flirting until you get sexytime. ME3 accomplished a living, breathing romance between two established characters.

I loved it.

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Well, the door is open for a DLC ending, since you restart exactly before you attack TIM's base. So if they wanted to add another ending for 10 extra dollars, they could do it. However, I wouldn't think that'd be right, since it would make the other ends seem pointless. Like it or not, if that's the ending they wanted, they should stick with it.

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Embrace eternity!

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Well, the door is open for a DLC ending, since you restart exactly before you attack TIM's base. So if they wanted to add another ending for 10 extra dollars, they could do it. However, I wouldn't think that'd be right, since it would make the other ends seem pointless. Like it or not, if that's the ending they wanted, they should stick with it.


The other endings are already pointless. I'd sleep much better if I could just convince myself those endings never, ever happened and I imagined their existence.

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I am disappointed by me 3, ending sucks

But there is one thing i really really like

Liara, she is the best character in me 3
I didn't care about the story the ending, but somehow she manage to makes me care about her
I took her on every mission. Funny thing is that i tryed to prevent her from dieing, Control her to take cover in best spots. Vega is down whatever, but liara, I have to help her.

The game feels flat only liara ads some multidimension to the story

Thats why I dont like the game, and the ending because Its like you didnt pissed off me you pissed off liara

And you kown what

killing everything which i liked from me 1 and 2 is not good idea to make me feel something:)
BIOWARE lazyyyyyyyy and a bit stupid lol

ps

Iiara had her own opinion and i did somehow know that she want to be a friend or more
She was only character that took this reaper war seriously.

on the opposite side

joker ask me if he can date edi like I am his mom and he is 12 years old lol

Soooo liara is cool and I suport this character !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and of line

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I did enjoy how the romance is referenced. It's not as much as DA:O or DA2, but it's nice that it's there. I just wish in some scenes, they could have gotten closer. Little things like a hug, or putting your arm around her. Or added a cuddle option, like in ME2.

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staindgrey wrote...

The other endings are already pointless. I'd sleep much better if I could just convince myself those endings never, ever happened and I imagined their existence.


But I don't consider them pointless. They aren't the endings people wanted, but I don't consider them invalid.

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OMG Liara is so perfect in this game. Her romance goes down as the best of the series (Although I knew that before) but now anyone refuting that is just plain crazy. I really loved this game sans the last 10 minutes.

Here's hoping the indoctrination theory is correct. As crazy as it would be, I would have to give the BioWare writers a big super high five if they will pull it off.

If it is true, then BioWare will go down as the most epic trolls ever!

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I forget to add i never romace her in me1 or 2
i romaced ash and miranda
I made a mistake at the beginning ending romance with ash, Wrong button lol
After all it was good mistake because Liara was cool

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MaroAlighieri wrote...

I'm just thinking about how crazy hilarious it would be if we were being trolled. It would be one of thee best video game trolls ever. "Just kidding guys! That wasn't really the end! We got you lol."


Why would they do that? they would be messing with the people that connected emotionally with their creation, more than "trolling" it'd be a sadistic action.

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Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

OMG Liara is so perfect in this game. Her romance goes down as the best of the series (Although I knew that before) but now anyone refuting that is just plain crazy. I really loved this game sans the last 10 minutes.

Here's hoping the indoctrination theory is correct. As crazy as it would be, I would have to give the BioWare writers a big super high five if they will pull it off.

If it is true, then BioWare will go down as the most epic trolls ever!


I've got to say, I really did like the "I love you" bits. I mean ME LIs have avoided saying those three words completely until ME3, so it was quite a pleasant surprise when it happened.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

The other endings are already pointless. I'd sleep much better if I could just convince myself those endings never, ever happened and I imagined their existence.


But I don't consider them pointless. They aren't the endings people wanted, but I don't consider them invalid.


It's not so much about what I "wanted", I want to make that clear. There's a distinction.

In narrative, it's important to end a story in the same manner in which it has been told throughout. In the ME series, we have been led to believe that all of our decisions would lead to an ultimate conclusion, based directly off of our actions. We see the world shape around us in the manner of our choosing, with consequences for every action.

The ending, as it stands, erases all of that. It makes every decision you've made in the last three games suddenly become a moot point. All that you've done, regardless of what race you saved or destroyed or what happened with the Council or who survived and who didn't... It's all rendered irrelevent by Bioware's choice to give you a "final decision" that is completely and entirely, in the context of story, rendered separate from everything else you've ever done. If you cured the genophage and gave the quarians their homeworld and saved the rachni and fought for peace among all races... Doesn't matter. Pick one of these three options and **** up everything you've done. Now.

And that doesn't even bring up the fact that the laws of the universe are turned on their head with this sudden god-figure coming out of nowhere and explaining almost nothing, or how the Reapers suddenly become an entirely different entity in the series's final seconds, shifting from an ominous, "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness," to basically being a .exe command to erase organic life every now and then to save it from being erased by synthetic life every now and again. (Wtf.)

I'm sorry, the English major in me can't forgive all the storytelling laws broken by this ending. It's unacceptable.

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Liara and Shepard do feel like this is their series. It's because of them that things have gotten as far as they have. They really are partners.

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and she shows the most skin, out of everyone you can romance.

#17070
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I recorded the romance scene with Liara if someone want to watch it after the scene itself :D

www.youtube.com/watch

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staindgrey wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

The other endings are already pointless. I'd sleep much better if I could just convince myself those endings never, ever happened and I imagined their existence.


But I don't consider them pointless. They aren't the endings people wanted, but I don't consider them invalid.


It's not so much about what I "wanted", I want to make that clear. There's a distinction.

In narrative, it's important to end a story in the same manner in which it has been told throughout. In the ME series, we have been led to believe that all of our decisions would lead to an ultimate conclusion, based directly off of our actions. We see the world shape around us in the manner of our choosing, with consequences for every action.

The ending, as it stands, erases all of that. It makes every decision you've made in the last three games suddenly become a moot point. All that you've done, regardless of what race you saved or destroyed or what happened with the Council or who survived and who didn't... It's all rendered irrelevent by Bioware's choice to give you a "final decision" that is completely and entirely, in the context of story, rendered separate from everything else you've ever done. If you cured the genophage and gave the quarians their homeworld and saved the rachni and fought for peace among all races... Doesn't matter. Pick one of these three options and **** up everything you've done. Now.

And that doesn't even bring up the fact that the laws of the universe are turned on their head with this sudden god-figure coming out of nowhere and explaining almost nothing, or how the Reapers suddenly become an entirely different entity in the series's final seconds, shifting from an ominous, "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness," to basically being a .exe command to erase organic life every now and then to save it from being erased by synthetic life every now and again. (Wtf.)

I'm sorry, the English major in me can't forgive all the storytelling laws broken by this ending. It's unacceptable.


Don't forget the lack of explaination like the crew suddenly being on the Normandy when we last saw them at the relay in London. Or like how Joker is suddenly flying away from the battle for no reason.

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The entirety of ME3 is sadistic They feed you false hope all the way through, the reason i pushed through ME1 and Me2 is because i was striving for Shepard's survival, screw the odds - I chose life but then ME3 happens and says you can't do that anymore...wtf.. i was never a fan of martyrdom or a keen believer in self-sacrifice...
Although the "I love you" bits were satisfying (even though they sort of cemented me into believing that Shepard was a goner)...And liara actually chuckles?/laughs? a bit in this game 0.0 felt good to hear. .

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staindgrey wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

The other endings are already pointless. I'd sleep much better if I could just convince myself those endings never, ever happened and I imagined their existence.


But I don't consider them pointless. They aren't the endings people wanted, but I don't consider them invalid.


It's not so much about what I "wanted", I want to make that clear. There's a distinction.

In narrative, it's important to end a story in the same manner in which it has been told throughout. In the ME series, we have been led to believe that all of our decisions would lead to an ultimate conclusion, based directly off of our actions. We see the world shape around us in the manner of our choosing, with consequences for every action.

The ending, as it stands, erases all of that. It makes every decision you've made in the last three games suddenly become a moot point. All that you've done, regardless of what race you saved or destroyed or what happened with the Council or who survived and who didn't... It's all rendered irrelevent by Bioware's choice to give you a "final decision" that is completely and entirely, in the context of story, rendered separate from everything else you've ever done. If you cured the genophage and gave the quarians their homeworld and saved the rachni and fought for peace among all races... Doesn't matter. Pick one of these three options and **** up everything you've done. Now.

And that doesn't even bring up the fact that the laws of the universe are turned on their head with this sudden god-figure coming out of nowhere and explaining almost nothing, or how the Reapers suddenly become an entirely different entity in the series's final seconds, shifting from an ominous, "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness," to basically being a .exe command to erase organic life every now and then to save it from being erased by synthetic life every now and again. (Wtf.)

I'm sorry, the English major in me can't forgive all the storytelling laws broken by this ending. It's unacceptable.


Yeah, I get what you mean. They build up something that's not concluded, and completely changes everything in 3 minutes. It's why I wish their was more added to the endings, to give a better understanding as to what exactly happened. I'm still wondering if everyone blew up with the Relays.

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coles4971 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

OMG Liara is so perfect in this game. Her romance goes down as the best of the series (Although I knew that before) but now anyone refuting that is just plain crazy. I really loved this game sans the last 10 minutes.

Here's hoping the indoctrination theory is correct. As crazy as it would be, I would have to give the BioWare writers a big super high five if they will pull it off.

If it is true, then BioWare will go down as the most epic trolls ever!


I've got to say, I really did like the "I love you" bits. I mean ME LIs have avoided saying those three words completely until ME3, so it was quite a pleasant surprise when it happened.


YEah that "I love you" part sealed the greatest experience in gaming for me. After all they been through, it was perfect. I was surprised as well and like I said, Liara in ME3 took the cake over all the others for me. The ME1 sex scene is still up there, but overall ME3 did it for me. 

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doozer12 wrote...

The entirety of ME3 is sadistic They feed you false hope all the way through, the reason i pushed through ME1 and Me2 is because i was striving for Shepard's survival, screw the odds - I chose life but then ME3 happens and says you can't do that anymore...wtf.. i was never a fan of martyrdom or a keen believer in self-sacrifice...
Although the "I love you" bits were satisfying (even though they sort of cemented me into believing that Shepard was a goner)...And liara actually chuckles?/laughs? a bit in this game 0.0 felt good to hear. .


Yeah, why fight if we're all doomed at the end, that's why right now I cannot see myself replaying any ME game ever again, why do Shepard has to fight when everything is doomed and there's no hope.