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[kumquats]

The London Sniper is with the people who rushed and gets the order to retreat. So I guess the Normandy Crew is with him and follows the Admirals order.
For all they know, Shepard is dead and the galaxy is doomed.

But my Shepard will pick Liara up, with her army of Reapers. Ultimate Power has to have some perks =D

[jlb524]

Shepard is Space!Jesus, dying for the sins of organics.

[Zered]

I heard that if your EMS score is low enough, you will see your squadmates dead bodies laying there.

But...they still end up on the Normandy 

If I recall right I did see Liara's and Garrus' corpses in my wife's game. Sad crap.

Modifié par michalooo, 11 mars 2012 - 06:43 .

[MaroAlighieri]

Arlionis wrote...

Why would they do that? they would be messing with the people that connected emotionally with their creation, more than "trolling" it'd be a sadistic action.

Trolling kind of revolves around sadism. But I digress.

I've made peace with the endings. As long as they aren't used as an excuse to not make another ME game I can accept 'em. The main reason I would consider supporting the "Indoctrination" theory is that all the endings have so many damn holes and inconsistencies it's ridiculous. My shore party magically beaming onto the Normandy, Joker flying the Normandy to NOWHERE, the galaxy not being destroyed even though the relays went boom, etc etc.

Despite that, I feel the game is definitely worth experiencing more than once. Liara's romance, the banter, and the emotion of some scenes. The game was great and I'll probably play it a dozen more times. Mostly for Liara but still...

[Arlionis]

danteliveson wrote...

michalooo wrote...

Not sure if someone posted it here, the best secret ending :-)

Love it!!

That one is hilarious, but there's a much better version that has the pic of an Asari kid cropped into that picture and another frame of Liara and Shep (SHepard goes to pick Liara to that jungle planet) before the one with the kid 

Modifié par Arlionis, 11 mars 2012 - 06:49 .

[jlb524]

michalooo wrote...

If I recall right I did see Liara's and Garrus' corpses in my wife's game. Sad crap.

Did either of them come off the Normandy in the end?

MaroAlighieri wrote...
I've made peace with the endings. As long as they aren't used as an excuse to not make another ME game I can accept 'em. 

I'm pretty sure they did that so they could just start over and make another ME game.   

MaroAlighieri wrote... 

Despite that, I feel the game is definitely worth experiencing more than once. Liara's romance, the banter, and the emotion of some scenes. The game was great and I'll probably play it a dozen more times. Mostly for Liara but still...

The game is great...could have been the best in the series, IMO.

The ending is just...fail.

I think I can bring myself to play through once more to see the Liara stuff again but I don't know if I will finish to the end.  There's no point when the endings are pretty much the same (as far as presentation goes, even though the choices can lead to different outcomes in the future).  I don't mind sad or bittersweet endings and I was probably going to go for the Shepard sacrifice ending the first time anyway...but it would be nice to replay and get a different 'feeling' ending. 

Modifié par jlb524, 11 mars 2012 - 06:52 .

[TMA LIVE]

If I had to guess what happened, there was a retreat. Then everyone started seeing a shock wave coming. Then got onto the Normandy, and tried to outrun it.

[Whybother]

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

[jlb524]

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

I don't know...Liara is technically too young to get pregnant.

[IndigoWolfe]

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

We can head canon. *militant expression*

[IndigoWolfe]

jlb524 wrote...

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

I don't know...Liara is technically too young to get pregnant.

I don't think she's too young. Otherwise she would have told Shepard that she wouldn't be able to have children in Shepard's lifetime.

[jlb524]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

I don't know...Liara is technically too young to get pregnant.

I don't think she's too young. Otherwise she would have told Shepard that she wouldn't be able to have children in Shepard's lifetime.

If she's still in her maiden stage, she can't have children.

I also don't think they ever had a serious discussion about children, minus the joke in LotSB and Liara's comment at the end of ME3 (which I took as a joke).

[Whybother]

jlb524 wrote...

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

I don't know...Liara is technically too young to get pregnant.

Great, now I feel like that C-Sec officer hitting on that teenager.

[GODofWAR93]

the radio chatter was not about retreat, all that was heard was "nobody made it to the beam"
sure and they don't see Shepard and Anderson stand back up, it is all some sort of hallucination have faith people we will get what we want once Bioware decides to stop this trolling.

there is no reason why they would bother with creating the whole multiplayer and galactic readiness and effective military strength just so people can ultimately get the SAME endings just with different colored explosions.

Modifié par GODofWAR93, 11 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[DOsquareZER]

Its open to interpretation. But I like to go with a yes. That look in Liara's eye, the bondmate comment, that touch of her hand on shep's arm... *shrugs* but then maybe im putting too much into this.
She is young physically, mentally *shrugs* ...would she be content with Shepard's memories? Or would she want a child to remember their love by? *shrugs* She knows deep down its probably a good chance she'll never see shep again...desperate times..
Cant asari store genetic material until they want it? or does it happen as soon as the meld finishes?

Modifié par doozer12, 11 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[MaroAlighieri]

@TMA At first I found that plausible but then...Garrus, Shepard's best friend and Liara, her lover just left her to bleed out in a pile of rubble? And Joker, having absolutely no knowledge of what the shockwave was actually going to do, booked for a relay instead of heading back to Earth as support?

[Premier Bromanov]

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

That was my impression.  We've never seen a depiction like that of the mind-joining.  I know that this "omg is Liara pregnant?!" shtick gets brought up whenever Liara has a romance scene with Shepard in any of the ME games, but considering all this talk about "little blue babies", and the finality of the situation Shepard is walking in to, I think it's more plausible now than ever.  In fact, I would approve of it, if it turned out to be true.  They've been together for quite some time, now, and Liara may never see Shepard again.  All the touching they do, all the time they spend together in ME3, I wouldn't be surprised, I would be pleasantly surprised.

Rev up that headcanon, 'cuz I'm sure hungry for some fanfiction.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 11 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[IndigoWolfe]

jlb524 wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Whybother wrote...

Also, is the "final goodbye" between Liara and Shep (assuming romance) supposed to indicate... pregnancy? That was my impression.

I don't know...Liara is technically too young to get pregnant.

I don't think she's too young. Otherwise she would have told Shepard that she wouldn't be able to have children in Shepard's lifetime.

If she's still in her maiden stage, she can't have children.

I also don't think they ever had a serious discussion about children, minus the joke in LotSB and Liara's comment at the end of ME3 (which I took as a joke).

Maidens have already reached sexual maturity. And they can enter the Matron stage whenever they want, from what I understand. Melding often even quickens the natural progression.

[jlb524]

Whybother wrote...

Great, now I feel like that C-Sec officer hitting on that teenager.

Asari work a bit differently than humans.

They become 'adults' before they can reproduce.

Whereas, in most human cultures, people can reproduce before they become 'adults'....if that makes sense.

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Maidens have already reached sexual maturity. And they can enter the Matron stage whenever they want, from what I understand. Melding often even quickens the natural progression.

Maidens have the drive as far as I can tell, but can't actually reproduce.

An asari can trigger the next stage whenever they wish though (I don't think Liara has melded enough to naturally trigger it).  If Liara did decide to trigger the Matron stage around 200 years early, I just wish there would have been a discussion in game surrounding that.

But I guess that's open to interpretation, fanfic.

Edit:  I'm not against the idea myself but I think any fanfic/headcanon would have to deal with that issue first.

Modifié par jlb524, 11 mars 2012 - 07:16 .

[kumquats]

MaroAlighieri wrote...

@TMA At first I found that plausible but then...Garrus, Shepard's best friend and Liara, her lover just left her to bleed out in a pile of rubble? And Joker, having absolutely no knowledge of what the shockwave was actually going to do, booked for a relay instead of heading back to Earth as support?

You mean, like they didn't search for Shepard after ME1? And it wasn't even as dangerous as in ME3....
They didn't think that Shepard was injured, they thought all of them were killed. That's what the London Sniper tells the Admiral.

Modifié par kumquats, 11 mars 2012 - 07:15 .

[Grunt Lord]

Hey everyone i just watched an interesting video(Hitler finds out about Mass Effect 3's Ending)!

If Bioware really crates a DLC to fix the ending i might actualy plan to play the game again! But right now all i can do is scream NOOOOO!

[Turbo_J]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Oh crap!!! Oh s**t!!! I just got done watching when she says goodbye to you in London. I can't... I can't finish this game. Knowing how it ends and seeing that... man it feels like I just got kicked a dozen times in my gut!!

Pay very close attention to the end and you'll be fine. Do what you set out to do.

[MaroAlighieri]

@kumquats Yeeaahhh...that's not good enough for me. In fact the idea that they just left Shepard there is far more troubling than them getting beamed up.

[Turbo_J]

kumquats wrote...

MaroAlighieri wrote...

@TMA At first I found that plausible but then...Garrus, Shepard's best friend and Liara, her lover just left her to bleed out in a pile of rubble? And Joker, having absolutely no knowledge of what the shockwave was actually going to do, booked for a relay instead of heading back to Earth as support?

You mean, like they didn't search for Shepard after ME1? And it wasn't even as dangerous as in ME3....
They didn't think that Shepard was injured, they thought all of them were killed. That's what the London Sniper tells the Admiral.

Yep. That was sad. I really hope he couldn't actually see the whole field. He missed me! So maybe there is hope. I had Liara and Edi with me. I'd hate to lose either of them. I survived, so if my blue love didn't it's really going to suck.

[DOsquareZER]

in the words of River Tam (firefly) in regards to the ending, "Its broken. it doesn't make sense." ...do I need a doctorate to understand these endings, maybe? man i knew mass effect would be costly but forcing me into 5 years of university to understand its endings is a little much.