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[Grunt Lord]

I just reread my endgame of the strategy guide and it said a secret ending can be unlocked by playing a second time! wonder what it is or if it is the same.

Modifié par Grunt Lord, 11 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[jlb524]

Grunt Lord wrote...

I just reread my endgame of the strategy guide and it said a secret ending can be unlocked by playing a second time! wonder what it is or if it is the same.

The cake is a lie.

I don't think anyone's found this ending.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kumquats wrote...

MaroAlighieri wrote...

@TMA At first I found that plausible but then...Garrus, Shepard's best friend and Liara, her lover just left her to bleed out in a pile of rubble? And Joker, having absolutely no knowledge of what the shockwave was actually going to do, booked for a relay instead of heading back to Earth as support?

You mean, like they didn't search for Shepard after ME1? And it wasn't even as dangerous as in ME3....
They didn't think that Shepard was injured, they thought all of them were killed. That's what the London Sniper tells the Admiral.

Jugding by the ending on the unknown planet, the squadmates seems to be in pretty good health.

I can't imagine any of the squadmates fleeing from the relay after surviving Harbinger's attack relativly unharmed. I would say they would have made a last mad dash towards it. Especially given the stakes.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 11 mars 2012 - 07:38 .

[cohina]

Grunt Lord wrote...

I just reread my endgame of the strategy guide and it said a secret ending can be unlocked by playing a second time! wonder what it is or if it is the same.

So does that mean that there is still hope for "happily ever after", or is the secret ending just this where Shepard mystically survives and he/she draws a breath in a pile of rubble?

[Premier Bromanov]

cohina wrote...

Grunt Lord wrote...

I just reread my endgame of the strategy guide and it said a secret ending can be unlocked by playing a second time! wonder what it is or if it is the same.

So does that mean that there is still hope for "happily ever after", or is the secret ending just this where Shepard mystically survives and he/she draws a breath in a pile of rubble?

That's the one.  People have gone through the video files with a fine-tooth comb looking for this "secret" ending, and nothing like that exists, so the guide is incorrect, or misleading.

[Stakis]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Oh crap!!! Oh s**t!!! I just got done watching when she says goodbye to you in London. I can't... I can't finish this game. Knowing how it ends and seeing that... man it feels like I just got kicked a dozen times in my gut!!

same here, romance with liara in me 3 was amazing, it so deserved a great ending.

[kumquats]

Lizardviking wrote...

kumquats wrote...

MaroAlighieri wrote...

@TMA At first I found that plausible but then...Garrus, Shepard's best friend and Liara, her lover just left her to bleed out in a pile of rubble? And Joker, having absolutely no knowledge of what the shockwave was actually going to do, booked for a relay instead of heading back to Earth as support?

You mean, like they didn't search for Shepard after ME1? And it wasn't even as dangerous as in ME3....
They didn't think that Shepard was injured, they thought all of them were killed. That's what the London Sniper tells the Admiral.

Jugding by the ending on the unknown planet, the squadmates seems to be in pretty good health.

I can't imagine any of the squadmates fleeing from the relay after surviving Harbinger's attack relativly unharmed. I would say they would have made a last mad dash towards it. Especially given the stakes.

I can't imagine how Shepard can survive the beam from a Reaper and the destruction of the Citadel.
But there you go...

Maybe he is a cat.

Modifié par kumquats, 11 mars 2012 - 07:58 .

[Zellbell]

I just wanted to toss in my two cents and say I really loved the romance scenes, they were incredibly touching and interesting. I just sort of wish that your LI would have had a larger effect on the ending (DLC maybe?)

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

Grunt Lord wrote...

I just reread my endgame of the strategy guide and it said a secret ending can be unlocked by playing a second time! wonder what it is or if it is the same.

The cake is a lie.

I don't think anyone's found this ending.

As in, no one has scene the complete ending because no one has done a New Game Plus yet?

[Grunt Lord]

Page. 323, Mass Effect 3 Prima officeal stragegy guide

At this point, you'll take part in one of several endings. all endings are dependent on two major factors: the total value of all war assets collected and the readiness rating percentage. There are hundreds of variables that deterrmine what war assets you ultimately end up with. we cannot tell you exactly how to get each one, since getting them depends on decisions made in mass effect 3, decisions made within imported saves, game time, and even online conectivityy. a number of war assets also change the scenes you witness over the course of the final battle.

readiness rating determines the effective military strength of all war assets. the lowest it can be is 50 percent. a good method of raising this rating is through multiplayer, and bioware will be providing additional methods to increase readiness outside of the game. however, even at the lowest percentage possible, all endings are within reach if you do what you can to bring as many war assets to the final battle.

even players without access to online multiplayer are capable of getting the best endings. after beating the game once, starting a new game plus opens up new possibilities. a secret ending is also available to players who complete the game a second time. in the interest of keeping this guide somewhat spoiler-free, we've eliminated screenshots for each ending. the brief description should be spoiler enough; we'll leave it up to you to experience the actual endings.

Note:
a chapter save is made for you at the start of the final mision. that way, you can load the save and make different choices to experience a different ending.

caution-spoiler alert!
you can stop reading at this point if you don't want to have anything spoiled; otherwise, be forewarned: heavy spoilers ahead!

if you imported a save where you made a "logical" decision and saved the collector's base in mass effect 2, then you'll see slightly different versions of the endings. if you did go with your gut, or your "heart," in mass effect 2 and destroyed the collectors base, then you'll have differendt endings available to you as well.

Note:
if yu didn't import a save from mass effect 2, then it is assumed that the collector's base was destroyed during events prior to mass effect 3.

endings

If you imported a save where the collector's base was saved, then these are your possible endings:

>if your readines rating is below 1,750 points, earth is destroyed regardless of the choice to destroy the Reapers or become one.
>at a 1,750 readiness rating, if you choose to destroy the reapers, earth is destroyed.
>at a 2,050 readiness rating, if you choose to become a reaper, earth is saved.
>at a 2,350 readines rating, if you choose to destryou the reapers, earth is devastated but still there.
>at a 2,650 readines rating, if you choose to destroy the reapers, earth is saved.
>at a 2,800 readines rating, you are able to create synergy between organics and synthetics, saving earth and the galaxy.
>at a 4,000 Readiness rating, if you choose to destroy the reapers and "saved" anderson, shepard lives.
>at a 5,000 Readiness Rating, if yu choose to destroy the reapers and did not "save" Anderson, Shepard lives.

if you imported a save where the collector's base was destroyed or you didn't import a mass effect 2 save, then these are your possible endings:

>if your readines rating is below 1,750 points, earth is destroyed
regardless of the choice to destroy the Reapers or become one.
>at a 1,750 readiness rating, if you choose to destroy the reapers, earth is destroyed.
>at a 2,050 readiness rating, if you choose to become a reaper, earth is distroyed.
>at a 2,350 readines rating, if you choose to destryou the reapers, earth is devastated but still there.
>at a 2,650 readines rating, if you choose to destroy the reapers, earth is saved.
>at a 2,800 readines rating, you are able to create synergy between organics and synthetics, saving earth and the galaxy.
>at a 4,000 Readiness rating, if you choose to destroy the reapers and "saved" anderson, shepard lives.
>at a 5,000 Readiness Rating, if yu choose to destroy the reapers and did not "save" Anderson, Shepard lives.

tip:
there is a special reward available only to players who have imported a save from mass effect 2 with the Prejek Paddle fish purchased by commander shepard. if the prejeck paddle fish survives through all of mass effect 3 and mass effect 3 new game plus, visit liara's quarters aboard the normandy for a very special intel bounus!



my playthrough so far as over 6,500 assect points and a 71% readyness ready. have all Krogen, Turian, Solarian, Geth Quarian, Hannar and Drell, Volis... not sure on all i got. might replay to see the special ending but i do not know.

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Grunt Lord wrote...

I just reread my endgame of the strategy guide and it said a secret ending can be unlocked by playing a second time! wonder what it is or if it is the same.

The cake is a lie.

I don't think anyone's found this ending.

As in, no one has scene the complete ending because no one has done a New Game Plus yet?

No, I think people have tried...plus the mined the data files for other ending videos...nothing.

[Rykoth]

Popping in to the Liara thread.

In ME1. I wasn't a Liara fan.

I am now a believer. My Soldier Shepard was in love with Ashley, and saved the galaxy in love with Ashley. but when I go back and create Biotic Shepard, I think I'll be worshiping the shrine of Liara next

[AlexMBrennan]

Look, what happened here is very simple indeed - strategy guide people (being strategy guide writers rather than intelligent comic artists) played the game once where Shep died, and replayed as NG+ where Shep lived, and we got the legend of a "secret" ending.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 11 mars 2012 - 08:51 .

[mione]

That secret ending is either Shep's last breath or the stargazer scene.

[Grunt Lord]

I'm just wondering why did Bioware create endings like that. to make us sad? mad? get more involved in the story? Why?

I looked around some stargazer scene is automatic and sheps breath is if he survives.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It's in Russian.

[moreeman06]

Hey you guys just popping in I'm not really done with the game yet I finished my soldier playthrough but i have two more to go (one more Liara, and one Tali) and i looked online for help in getting the endings, basically i don't like them and if you guys don't mind here are some links to petitions/polls for bioware to change the endings
http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/
http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/
http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3
https://docs.google....tRjRfZEVnQ2c6MQ

[TMA LIVE]

jreezy wrote...

Grunt Lord wrote...

I'm just wondering why did Bioware create endings like that. to make us sad? mad? get more involved in the story? Why?

Because they wanted to. Not everything a developer does is made with the fans in mind and it never should be. BioWare probably thought that these endings were the best way to end Shepard's story.

Plus, it's the most massive decision Shepard could make.

This post from this poster is very much like my opinion on the ending:

http://s15.zetaboard...02996&t=7152681

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Grunt Lord wrote...

I'm just wondering why did Bioware create endings like that. to make us sad? mad? get more involved in the story? Why?

Because they wanted to. Not everything a developer does is made with the fans in mind and it never should be. BioWare probably thought that these endings were the best way to end Shepard's story.

Plus, it's the most massive decision Shepard could make.

This post from this poster is very much like my opinion on the ending:

http://s15.zetaboard...02996&t=7152681

It says error. Could you please copy paste it here?

[TMA LIVE]

Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Grunt Lord wrote...

I'm just wondering why did Bioware create endings like that. to make us sad? mad? get more involved in the story? Why?

Because they wanted to. Not everything a developer does is made with the fans in mind and it never should be. BioWare probably thought that these endings were the best way to end Shepard's story.

Plus, it's the most massive decision Shepard could make.

This post from this poster is very much like my opinion on the ending:

http://s15.zetaboard...02996&t=7152681

It says error. Could you please copy paste it here?

Alright, but it's a big one.

The poster's name is Tropulous:

I like the summation that was posted in the spoilers debating group on the BSN:

"So basically, we can follow Saren's ideals, The Illusive Man's ideals, or follow something analogous to the Geth's ideals. How ironic that they were all antagonists at one point."

Saren's ideals, combining synthetics and organics - "the strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither".

TIM's ideals, using the Reapers as a weapon for humanity - "securing human dominance, against the Reapers and beyond".

The Geths' ideals, forging your own path free from the Reapers' influence - "accepting another's path blinds you to alternatives".

Considering it like this, all three endings are justifiable.

I kind of like the poetry of everyone making their own technology, even if it's at such great cost. And it looks like it's the only ending that allows Shepard to live, so some of my Sheps might choose it for that reason alone

Personally, my favourite is the "leap of synergy"/"merge"/"fusion" ending. I like the whole "overcoming our weaknesses" for organics (this is the philosophy of transhumanism, actually). And I think that causing this change is, in the long term, for the greater good of everyone.

My line of thinking for why is this, if you're interested]Technology will always march on. No matter how many regulations exist against this stuff, you can't stop technological progress. But it won't evolve equally for all species, and not everyone will be able to afford enhancing their own body. With time, I could see a social division created by this; some species (and some individuals of certain species) will be transhuman and superior to the others. Just like the rift between the rich and the poor is a cause of conflict today, add transhumanist issues to that. And this is asuming that AIs won't revolt, because not all of them could be pacific like EDI or the geth. All in all, while I don't think we would necessarily end up in the apocalyptic singularity scenario of AIs taking over that the Guardian suggests (remember, this was the reason for creating the Reapers in the first place), I do think we could easily end up in a situation of severe social unrest.

The solution the Catalyst proposes is making organics closer to synthetics (cyborgs could be considered transhumans), regardless of species and social status and gender and religion and everything, and making synthetics closer to organics too (so that they have no reasons to revolt). I mean, if that's not egalitarian, I don't know what is. It's almost utopic. And if the price to pay for something closer to the utopia is simply Shepard's death and a heartbroken LI (and remember that most people don't do romances), then I say, bring it on.

It's true that not everyone will be happy with the decision, and that such a sudden and forced change of all life is very risky. How risky it is exactly, I imagine that it will depend on how well you've played your cards in the entire trilogy. Imagine if you go for this ending with Wreav in charge of the krogan; it would be disastrous, the last thing you want to inflict on the galaxy is an invasion of cybernetically enhanced war lizards. Still, desperate situations require desperate solutions, and "holy crap choose something before the Reapers obliterate everything" is certainly a desperate situation. And if you look at it, none of the choices is perfect; all of them will cause some kind of conflict. So, in the end, I see this ending as a trade-off: some conflict in the short term, while avoiding some potential sources of great conflict in the long term. And if you have played your cards right, the short-term conflict won't be too much.

And Shepard might not have the moral right to do this decision, but that extends to all endings. All endings involve you deciding what is best for the galaxy, because you are the only one in the position to make the difference that ends with the Reaper threat. I understand that not everyone will agree with my views, but that's why this choice exists.

You know, I like that it's such a hard choice. The taglines for Mass Effect were "choices and consequences", "hard choices and sacrifices have to be made", and things like that. Thematically, I think it fits that the final choice will be the hardest choice to make.

When the game comes out, this will probably be THE topic of debate to end all topics of debate. And I love that everyone can choose what they agree with, even if it's at great cost, and I love that this great cost is more or less balanced in all scenarios. Even if we might not like it, with time, it will probably be what will help the most to make Mass Effect memorable.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I have said it a thousand times, but the choices themselves are not what makes these endings bad.

[Eclipse merc]

Well, it's been awhile since I posted here, finally finished ME3 and... well... *Ahem*

Liara romance was awesome though.

[Agamemnon2589]

I hate the ending just like everyone else. Hated it.

But on a lighter note, I GOT LIARA BACK. Honestly, that was easily my favorite part of the game. I hadn't realize how much I'd missed her from ME1. What a beautifully written character/romance.

[Eclipse merc]

Also I haven't been very active here but did anyone else get a problem where on the ME3 character import screen it says you didn't romance anyone in ME2. Even if you rekindled it in LotSB?