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[PMC65]

ebevan91 wrote...

I never romanced Liara, but before I learned of the endings, I wanted to start another playthrough of all the ME games just to romance her, but now I have no desire at all.

I guess Ashley will forever be my only romance for male shep, from ME1 to ME3, anyways.

I played my "dummy" run with a Liara romance first and now I don't think I'll play either my canon (liara) or secondary (Ash) unless there is an actual update to the ending. I just don't have the heart to do it. And I so wanted to see PV Shepard get back with Ash but .... Wine please!

*now typing from under bar as waitress brings another glass*

[HetmanNG]

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

Liara romance, for male shep seemed extremly dry, and blah

Male/Female dialogues are the same with the same expression -for me of course.

[Boris_Ramirez]

Forget who asked for this but here's the link to the hallucination thread. http://social.biowar...index/9727423/1
You gusy will probably see me here a lot more but this thread updates way too fast D:

[ladyvader]

PMC65 wrote...

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Yea PCM, i hope your right. And the whole save your ME3 saves thing. Shepard wasfighting indoctrination, i mean YOU SHOT ANDERSON!...reaper influence no?

no it was the illusive man, with his attempt to control the reapers, he was exerting it upon shepard and anderson

I don't think that Shepard physically was ever on the Citadel ... TIM & Anderson were all in her mind. A angel & devil if you will. She was struggling to keep her own identity. But until Bioware has a reveal we are all speculating.

I have a hard time accepting that Shepard was ever indoctinated.  No way could Shepard control the Reapers if Shepard was already indoctinated.

I also think Liara would have sense it.  She know the first time she touched Shepard that it was really Shepard and not something else.  She says that on the Cerberus station when you are looking at the console that EDI told you about.

[DOsquareZER]

No she wasnt indoctrinated, but thats not to say they wernt trying.

[Kilshrek]

Mefistos989 wrote...


Frankly, Liara is the best LI and friend in the series. I don't know if I should praise Bioware for not including "sunshine and flowers" ending with her, or I should damn them all for not including it.

My brain needs some calibration. Someone please call Garrus...

I have an easier time of this, I'd like a happy ending. Games, of all entertainment medium, have the tremendous capacity to provide an incredible range of... endings. A book can really only end in one way, a movie sometimes has an alternate ending, a game? A game can have as many endings as the game developer wants to include. Of course it should be reasonable, but a happy ending, a neutral ending, and a bad ending are arguably better than a merely different coloured ending.

[Arlionis]

HetmanNG wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Anyone have any theories about the 3rd dream with the boy running into Shepard's arm then they both start burning.  I still have no idea what the is suppose to mean. 

Maybe if you trust this child, you will probably dead or you can't save all, but you must choose choice of sacrifice some "people".

sry for eng

Nice one, and it actually makes sense. "Once you get to the child, you'll burn", notice that in the previous dreams Shep never catches him. 

[PMC65]

Turbo_J wrote...

Although I'm biased and would like to think it were so, it would only happen if you had the ME2 blue children dialog flagged. And for Liara to follow through if Shep is alive, I'd think it would be best to ask before 'commiting' the DNA randomization process. Some players don't want blue kids for headcanon reasons. If Shep is dead, well then it's Liara's call.

Hey J ... If Shepard dies you are right that Liara would make the final call. Given that EW never wanted children with Liara I wonder if she would still move forward. I struggled with this question.

After that struggle I came to a 99.9% yes that she would move forward with it. She loved Shepard and even knowing that EW might not want it while living, Liara would do it anyway. She would feel that Shepard would have understood ... or at least, she hopes that she would.

[Turbo_J]

ladyvader wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Yea PCM, i hope your right. And the whole save your ME3 saves thing. Shepard wasfighting indoctrination, i mean YOU SHOT ANDERSON!...reaper influence no?

no it was the illusive man, with his attempt to control the reapers, he was exerting it upon shepard and anderson

I don't think that Shepard physically was ever on the Citadel ... TIM & Anderson were all in her mind. A angel & devil if you will. She was struggling to keep her own identity. But until Bioware has a reveal we are all speculating.

I have a hard time accepting that Shepard was ever indoctinated.  No way could Shepard control the Reapers if Shepard was already indoctinated.

I also think Liara would have sense it.  She know the first time she touched Shepard that it was really Shepard and not something else.  She says that on the Cerberus station when you are looking at the console that EDI told you about.

Ah crap! That gift may be more significant than we think.
The entire scene could be a test by Liara to see if Shep is indoctrinated. A test of his/her resolve...

Stew on that one. lol

Modifié par Turbo_J, 13 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[DOsquareZER]

Ohhh, good one turbo *sits and ponders*

[PMC65]

ladyvader wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Yea PCM, i hope your right. And the whole save your ME3 saves thing. Shepard wasfighting indoctrination, i mean YOU SHOT ANDERSON!...reaper influence no?

no it was the illusive man, with his attempt to control the reapers, he was exerting it upon shepard and anderson

I don't think that Shepard physically was ever on the Citadel ... TIM & Anderson were all in her mind. A angel & devil if you will. She was struggling to keep her own identity. But until Bioware has a reveal we are all speculating.

I have a hard time accepting that Shepard was ever indoctinated.  No way could Shepard control the Reapers if Shepard was already indoctinated.

I also think Liara would have sense it.  She know the first time she touched Shepard that it was really Shepard and not something else.  She says that on the Cerberus station when you are looking at the console that EDI told you about.

That is why many of us believe that Shepard is fighting the indoctrination in that moment. The final part of the game is Shepard either losing herself or fighting off the indoctrination and not really about the crucible or catalyst. But as I said, until Bioware makes a public reveal we are all speculating on what the "lack of ending" meant.

I'm just glad that I didn't see Liara & Ash at Shepard's feet.

[PMC65]

Turbo_J wrote...

Ah crap! That gift may be more significant than we think.
The entire scene could be a test by Liara to see if Shep is indoctrinated. A test of his/her resolve...

Stew on that one. lol

I do think it was Liara giving Shepard part of her strength and not baby making.

[Grunt Lord]

I heard this from my cousin which made me start to think. You know how you destroyed the relay in batarion space and destroyed a whole system. well all the choices at end of ME3 Destroy the relays. dont you think that destroying them would destroy the systems that they are in so bye bye earth, Rannoch, Thessia, Palaven, Sur'Kesh... there would be no sentient life.

nice art work. hope there is ending DLC but who knows

[DOsquareZER]

PMC65 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Ah crap! That gift may be more significant than we think.
The entire scene could be a test by Liara to see if Shep is indoctrinated. A test of his/her resolve...

Stew on that one. lol

I do think it was Liara giving Shepard part of her strength and not baby making.

Liara.  Always thinking.  Always planning ahead.  *grins*

[TMA LIVE]

I wonder if fans have flycam the romance scene yet, to expose more scaly body.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 13 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[Baronesa]

Turbo_J wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Yea PCM, i hope your right. And the whole save your ME3 saves thing. Shepard wasfighting indoctrination, i mean YOU SHOT ANDERSON!...reaper influence no?

no it was the illusive man, with his attempt to control the reapers, he was exerting it upon shepard and anderson

I don't think that Shepard physically was ever on the Citadel ... TIM & Anderson were all in her mind. A angel & devil if you will. She was struggling to keep her own identity. But until Bioware has a reveal we are all speculating.

I have a hard time accepting that Shepard was ever indoctinated.  No way could Shepard control the Reapers if Shepard was already indoctinated.

I also think Liara would have sense it.  She know the first time she touched Shepard that it was really Shepard and not something else.  She says that on the Cerberus station when you are looking at the console that EDI told you about.

Ah crap! That gift may be more significant than we think.
The entire scene could be a test by Liara to see if Shep is indoctrinated. A test of his/her resolve...

Stew on that one. lol

Or maybe she uses that last time to meld and secure a daughter...

[cohina]

Grunt Lord wrote...

I heard this from my cousin which made me start to think. You know how you destroyed the relay in batarion space and destroyed a whole system. well all the choices at end of ME3 Destroy the relays. dont you think that destroying them would destroy the systems that they are in so bye bye earth, Rannoch, Thessia, Palaven, Sur'Kesh... there would be no sentient life.

That's actually pretty interesting point. But ofc the magical space ghost god kid can destroy relays without damaging anything else...

[DOsquareZER]

I don't get that they explode even if you choose control... ^.o

Did anyone ever get the comment with Javik about Asari mating with Lizards at some point?

Modifié par doozer12, 13 mars 2012 - 09:31 .

[Master Shiori]

Ok, Curiousity got the better of me so I tweeted a question to Liara's writer about the possibility of her being pregnant by the end of ME3. Here's what she said on the matter:



@Sylvf1
Out of curiousity; is romanced Liara pregnant at the end of ME3?


@hrvilic
Maybe. Or Liara could just be saying she'd LIKE kids. OR she's just referencing Shepard's affectionate line from LotSB.
Either way this isn't something I want to give a definitive answer to. Got to leave that scene some room for interpretation.
7:31 PM - 13 Mar 12 via web

Modifié par Master Shiori, 13 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Arlionis]

I've already head canon'ed a daughter, so I don't accept the transferring of strength theory

[DOsquareZER]

Why not both? ;-o
She does tap into Shepard's essence (that glow changes depending on your paragon/renegade score) but *shrugs* who knows. As Syl stated - Interpretation! ...i dont know if i should love that word or hate it.

[Kilshrek]

Master Shiori wrote...

Ok, Curiousity got the better of me so I tweeted a question to Liara's writer about the possibility of her being pregnant by the end of ME3. Here's what she said on the matter:



@Sylvf1
Out of curiousity; is romanced Liara pregnant at the end of ME3?


@hrvilic
Maybe. Or Liara could just be saying she'd LIKE kids. OR she's just referencing Shepard's affectionate line from LotSB.
Either way this isn't something I want to give a definitive answer to. Got to leave that scene some room for interpretation.
7:31 PM - 13 Mar 12 via web

Fair enough, with the endings as they are, I like open to interpretation much more than a definite answer.

[PMC65]

Arlionis wrote...

I've already head canon'ed a daughter, so I don't accept the transferring of strength theory

Why does it have to be either/or? She does this with both romanced & non-romanced Shepard so she could be giving Shepard additional strength. If your Shepard romanced her then maybe while she was giving him/her additional strength she took a tip (DNA) for her troubles.

EDIT:  by doozer12

Modifié par PMC65, 13 mars 2012 - 09:47 .

[kumquats]

Not everyone wants blue babies, it would be unfair to give a canon answer to that.

[Flammenpanzer]

doozer12 wrote...

I don't get that they explode even if you choose control... ^.o

Did anyone ever get the comment with Javik about Asari mating with Lizards at some point?

Wait...what?