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[draken-heart]

Kilshrek wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

does anyone else seem to get the idea that Shepard is supposed to romance Liara but it got cut in both of the previous games? Aethyta seemed to say something and if you do the Renegade action Shepard calls Liara "My girl".

?

Shepard totally seduces Liara in ME 1. ME 2 Liara can be snacked on if you have LOTSB. ME 3

but i got that even though i did not romance her.

[Rolling Flame]

TheMarshal wrote...

Deventh wrote...

No one told me what happened to Aethyta after the attack on the citadel? I didn't understand, she just disappeared?

I don't mean to rumor-monger, but after the attack, the cafe owner DOES say that one of his waitresses got killed...  

I can't imagine Aethyta getting taken out by a couple Cerberus grunts, though.  Perhaps a faked death?

I would've thought Liara would mention it if Aethyta was killed in the coup. And I simply can't believe that Cerberus grunts would be able to take her down.

They have trouble against the kids at Grissom Academy, for God's sake!

Modifié par Rolling Flame, 17 mars 2012 - 12:19 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

The way femshep said "liara..I" was sort of cute.

Maybe Liara did sleep around to get info on the Shadowbroker? Who knows.

I'm sure she did plenty of unsavory things when she was starting out, but I doubt she'd have crossed that line.

I
am not sure. When you bring her to TIM's base, she does have a moment
where she reflects over "It is easy to think you have the right answer
when you work in the shadows.". Sounds to me she has done things she is
not exactly proud of during her time as an information broker.

I
think Liara did alot of "dark things" while chasing the shadow broker.
Sleeping with someone would rate much lower than killing or torture. So I
see her doing that and more. Pre-Shepard she says that she never found
someone to "meld" with ... but she gives a little laugh at the Virgin
part.

Why we put so much stock into "physical purity" kills me. I
don't think the asari put as much stock in that as we humans do ...
that is why we consider them ****s. Physical pleasures is not the same
for them. They can have that type of pleasure easily ... but that is
just me. To each his own. 

I think the tone of voice she says it in and her expression suggest it is something more serious than just sleeping with someone to get what she wanted.

And have she used sex as a tool during those two years? I like to think not but I suppose it is a possibility.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 17 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[PMC65]

Kilshrek wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I think Liara did alot of "dark things" while chasing the shadow broker. Sleeping with someone would rate much lower than killing or torture. So I see her doing that and more. Pre-Shepard she says that she never found someone to "meld" with ... but she gives a little laugh at the Virgin part.

Why we put so much stock into "physical purity" kills me. I don't think the asari put as much stock in that as we humans do ... that is why we consider them ****s. Physical pleasures is not the same fort them. They can have that type of pleasure easily ... but that is just me. To each his own. 

Yeah, but Aria? Even asari have standards... right? Seduction is more than just sex, it can be the promise of it, without ever delivering. Although with Liara's personality, I don't see her stooping to that level to get what she wants. I feel that Shep's straightforward attitude rubbed off a bit on Liara. Maybe more than just attitude.

Liara implys that she did things that she is not proud of. You as the player are left to determine what those things are. 

As I said, physical contact to the asari is not the same as to use humans. That's why a threesome proposition did not throw her in ME1. By ME3, Liara will not share you true because she recognizes what it means in human terms. Not asari terms. But as I said, that is how I see it. 

If you want Liara only with your Shepard body & mind only and human virginity is important to your headcanon. That's cool. It is all up to the player.  

[Kilshrek]

draken-heart wrote...

but i got that even though i did not romance her.

Do you mean you didn't romance Liara at all? Or did you just not meet her in ME2?

In ME 1 you more or less just need to talk to Liara and you'll sort of initiate a romance with her. Having her come to your cabin before Ilos = romanced.

In ME 2 after you kill the Shadow Broker, you can invite her to your cabin, when she's there you can "restart" your relationship with her.

In ME 3, assuming you played LOTSB and "restarted" the relationship, you'll start out all lovey dovey.

However if you mean you didn't romance Liara at all and you get the "talk" from Aethyta, then this is a known bug, I think.

[draken-heart]

Kilshrek wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

but i got that even though i did not romance her.

Do you mean you didn't romance Liara at all? Or did you just not meet her in ME2?

In ME 1 you more or less just need to talk to Liara and you'll sort of initiate a romance with her. Having her come to your cabin before Ilos = romanced.

In ME 2 after you kill the Shadow Broker, you can invite her to your cabin, when she's there you can "restart" your relationship with her.

In ME 3, assuming you played LOTSB and "restarted" the relationship, you'll start out all lovey dovey.

However if you mean you didn't romance Liara at all and you get the "talk" from Aethyta, then this is a known bug, I think.

yeah it is probably a bug, because i play ME2 on the PS3 and i do not select her as my LI in the comic, so i get the friend dialogue in the cabin scene in L.o.t.S.B

[Kilshrek]

PMC65 wrote...

Liara implys that she did things that she is not proud of. You as the player are left to determine what those things are. 

As I said, physical contact to the asari is not the same as to use humans. That's why a threesome proposition did not throw her in ME1. By ME3, Liara will not share you true because she recognizes what it means in human terms. Not asari terms. But as I said, that is how I see it. 

If you want Liara only with your Shepard body & mind only and human virginity is important to your headcanon. That's cool. It is all up to the player.  

Oh, virginity isn't the measure of a person, not by any length.

But like Liara said in LOTSB, she's "taken". I should assume that she spent her time looking for Shepard, mourning Shepard, then looking for Feron. 2 years in a thousand year life span would be something like a couple of weeks to a human? Relatively speaking. I think the things she's not proud about would be more like bluffing on an asari commando squad, and threatening to turn people into tea. Of course I'm ever the optimist.

Of course if she doesn't want to talk about it, I'm not about to ask about it. The important thing is that they got back together.

[Grunt Lord]

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[Kilshrek]

Chriss5688 wrote...

Loved this one, thanks for posting!

Holding hands? Check.

Anyone interested in making a Shep/Liara hand holding moment in ME 3 gif?

[Turbo_J]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

The way femshep said "liara..I" was sort of cute.

Maybe Liara did sleep around to get info on the Shadowbroker? Who knows.

I'm sure she did plenty of unsavory things when she was starting out, but I doubt she'd have crossed that line.

I
am not sure. When you bring her to TIM's base, she does have a moment
where she reflects over "It is easy to think you have the right answer
when you work in the shadows.". Sounds to me she has done things she is
not exactly proud of during her time as an information broker.

I
think Liara did alot of "dark things" while chasing the shadow broker.
Sleeping with someone would rate much lower than killing or torture. So I
see her doing that and more. Pre-Shepard she says that she never found
someone to "meld" with ... but she gives a little laugh at the Virgin
part.

Why we put so much stock into "physical purity" kills me. I
don't think the asari put as much stock in that as we humans do ...
that is why we consider them ****s. Physical pleasures is not the same
for them. They can have that type of pleasure easily ... but that is
just me. To each his own. 

I think the tone of voice she says it in and her expression suggest it is something more serious than just sleeping with someone to get what she wanted.

And have she used sex as a tool during those two years? I like to think not but I suppose it is a possibility.

I can see Liara pushing limits, but not that one. Physical sex may be viewed differently for most Asari based on what little we know about them and that we each fill in via imagination, but if physical sexual contact was really so trivial to the Asari, and thus Liara, then why does she express Jealousy at all when it comes to Shep? Something apparent from ME1; Asari Consort. Physical sex is all humans have access too with their own kind. If it's that trivial to Asari, why would Liara care at all what Shep does, as long as it's not bond melding with another Asari. It doesn't fit.

Given it's pretty clear in ME1 that Shep is Liara's first intimate bonding/melding partner, I don't think she would diminish that by having physical sex while Shep was dead. Not while in mourning. I think it would be a little too painful for her given she mourned pretty much right up to seeing Shep on Illium. Hell, she was still in the mourning process during the first hour of LotSB. She had focused that pain and loss into hatred and revenge towards the Shadow Broker. Intimacy, regardless of it's triviality or use, wouldn't seem to fit her Broker arsenal at the time. She'd simply have an agent do it.

This is my opinion only, both the above and the following... Liara was never a prude. In my view, she was a little manipulative in ME1 and knew exactly what she was doing when it came to the shy, innocent, awkward act around Shepard. She was in complete control of that situation. Many Asari are known as huntresses for a reason.

[Grunt Lord]

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[mmmu]

Just finished ME3. Damn. Liara will go down on my personal history books as the most lovable videogame character ever.

[Kilshrek]

Grunt Lord wrote...

http://mattrhodes.de...reedom2306&qo=3

I... erm.. didn't get the ending...

*hangs head in shame*

[Arlionis]

Rolling Flame wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Deventh wrote...

No one told me what happened to Aethyta after the attack on the citadel? I didn't understand, she just disappeared?

I don't mean to rumor-monger, but after the attack, the cafe owner DOES say that one of his waitresses got killed...  

I can't imagine Aethyta getting taken out by a couple Cerberus grunts, though.  Perhaps a faked death?

I would've thought Liara would mention it if Aethyta was killed in the coup. And I simply can't believe that Cerberus grunts would be able to take her down.

They have trouble against the kids at Grissom Academy, for God's sake!

Exactly, if you read the description to Samara's powers and you chose the Sapiens Justicar specialization it says that Samara's power come near to those of a Matriarch, so if your average Matriarch is more powerful than Samara I cannot see how the Cerberus troops can take Aethyta down. Also in the LotSB videos she plays a head butting competition with a Krogan and the Krogan loses 

[PMC65]

Kilshrek wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Liara implys that she did things that she is not proud of. You as the player are left to determine what those things are. 

As I said, physical contact to the asari is not the same as to use humans. That's why a threesome proposition did not throw her in ME1. By ME3, Liara will not share you true because she recognizes what it means in human terms. Not asari terms. But as I said, that is how I see it. 

If you want Liara only with your Shepard body & mind only and human virginity is important to your headcanon. That's cool. It is all up to the player.  

Oh, virginity isn't the measure of a person, not by any length.

But like Liara said in LOTSB, she's "taken". I should assume that she spent her time looking for Shepard, mourning Shepard, then looking for Feron. 2 years in a thousand year life span would be something like a couple of weeks to a human? Relatively speaking. I think the things she's not proud about would be more like bluffing on an asari commando squad, and threatening to turn people into tea. Of course I'm ever the optimist.

Of course if she doesn't want to talk about it, I'm not about to ask about it. The important thing is that they got back together.

What she did in those two years is left up to each player so there is no right or wrong answer. In one universe she was physically celibate while in others not so ... each player must flesh those years out. In my universe she wasn't. But she was never spiritually unfaithful nor did she "meld" with anyone. That was only for Shepard.

But none of that matters really given the final moments of Shepard.

[Grunt Lord]

just liked it but i didn't understand it ether

[Grunt Lord]

I've just been looking at Mass Effect Pics over the last hour and have seen some disterbing ones but here is a funny one http://kid1515.devia...s Effect&qo=687

[Kilshrek]

PMC65 wrote...

What she did in those two years is left up to each player so there is no right or wrong answer. In one universe she was physically celibate while in others not so ... each player must flesh those years out. In my universe she wasn't. But she was never spiritually unfaithful nor did she "meld" with anyone. That was only for Shepard.

But none of that matters really given the final moments of Shepard.

Shh! I'm working out a new ending for my headcanon. Clearly the "last" moments of Shepard are spent in Liara's arms, at a cabin by a mountain lake. Maybe some of their kids may come to visit, I suppose they'd be a bit too young to wander off too far by themselves just yet.

It's definitely happy though.

Grunt Lord wrote...

I've just been looking at Mass Effect
Pics over the last hour and have seen some disterbing ones but here is a
funny one
http://kid1515.devia...s Effect&qo=687

:D

Nobody messes with his pink flamingo!

Modifié par Kilshrek, 17 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[GODofWAR93]

Liara has always been and will always be loyal to Shepard

[draken-heart]

hey all a question, since Liara knows Shepard better than anyone, what advice could you see Liara giving a Samantha who is romanced by fem!Shepard?

Modifié par draken-heart, 17 mars 2012 - 01:20 .

[PMC65]

Kilshrek wrote...

Shh! I'm working out a new ending for my headcanon. Clearly the "last" moments of Shepard are spent in Liara's arms, at a cabin by a mountain lake. Maybe some of their kids may come to visit, I suppose they'd be a bit too young to wander off too far by themselves just yet.

It's definitely happy though.

LOL! Well that is what we are being told by Bioware ... make up our own ending. Can you imagine if movies and books did that?

At the moment Shepard is below rubble and waiting for Bioware to give the real ending to the battle with the reapers ... Liara is hopefully hiding with Ash and the others up the hill.

[Kilshrek]

draken-heart wrote...

hey all a question, since Liara knows Shepard better than anyone, what advice could you see Liara giving a Samantha who is romanced by fem!Shepard?

Ailith430 wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

This pic gives me a great big happy. That whole scene gave me a great big happy.

And then a Reaper ate my happy. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

No, Liara ate your "happy", HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY~

...Sorry.

Sage advice right here. Oh forgive me...

PMC65 wrote...

LOL! Well that is what we are being told by Bioware ... make up our own ending. Can you imagine if movies and books did that?

At
the moment Shepard is below rubble and waiting for Bioware to give the
real ending to the battle with the reapers ... Liara is hopefully hiding
with Ash and the others up the hill.

Y'know, I've almost never read a book where I wanted to change the ending. I always felt that whatever happens in the book happens for a good reason, and even if I don't agree with it, I'm almost always satisfied.

I used to read a lot of Gaunt's Ghosts novels, and when Bragg, then Corbec died, a little bit of me died as well. These guys were the pillars of the Ghosts, and they were killed by a thrice damned rat bastard traitor. But their deaths felt real, there was huge emotional impact and I read on, knowing that eventually everyone may die, but they'll die the finest damned heroes of the Imperium. I don't know how to describe it, it just didn't sting as much as what happens at the end of ME 3. Mind you I read the first 10 books, so that may have given me an equivalent amount of time spent on them as the ME series. Not once did I question where the author was bringing me.

ME 3, wtfbbq ending? The journey is awesome, it's arguably the finest ME game of them all. But with that certain knowledge that nothing you do matters, I really can't bring myself to fire it up to try out something new. There's no point. I'll play it up to certain points so I can play out the Liara scenes, the project and flatterer reward being my favourites. Let's not talk about the end sequence scenes, because.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 17 mars 2012 - 01:30 .