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[Grunt Lord]

I can see that the toughest bunch/family. all the kids grow up to be just like their parents and a few diffrent. they would be the toughest, smartest, and well looked upon family in the gallexey and may be seen as targets to criminals and enamey civilizations.

Modifié par Grunt Lord, 14 juin 2011 - 07:53 .

[PMC65]

Shepard & Liara's future is really uncertain for me at this time ...

The two could stay together until Shepard dies, Liara could die during the war or they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

I won't know what will become of them until the war unfolds and finally ends.

Come on 3/6/2012                    

[Durontan]

I'll just repeat the words of immortal Shepard when Liara asks If this all ends tommorow what would you do?

I don't know, marriage, old age and a Lot of little Blue children

That is how I see the end of Shepards romance with Liara.

[Robhuzz]

PMC65 wrote...

Shepard & Liara's future is really uncertain for me at this time ...

The two could stay together until Shepard dies, Liara could die during the war or they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

I won't know what will become of them until the war unfolds and finally ends.

Come on 3/6/2012                    

Both Liara and Shepard will survive ME3. If Liara doesn't survive, I might sacrifice Shepard in the final battle (if possible) to stop the reapers. IF you believe in the afterlife it's a comforting thought that Liara and Shepard will at least be together, albeit differently than expected.

I doubt it'll come to the situation mentioned above though. I actually wonder if there's a way to break up with Liara in ME3, I'd be interested in her response if Shepard broke up with her after all this time. Though even though I'd reload an earlier save as soon as the scene ends I think I'd feel incredibly guilty about it...

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...

they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

The idea of Shepard and Liara breaking up some time in future after the war is over seems so weird to me. considering what the relationship has been though.

[Ghost Warrior]

Sh*t,I never romanced Liara and I like her. I'll do it in the next playthrough.

[ladyvader]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

The idea of Shepard and Liara breaking up some time in future after the war is over seems so weird to me. considering what the relationship has been though.

Agreed.  If they didn't break after the LotSB, I don't see why they would after the war with the Reapers is over.

[Grunt Lord]

am playing ME1 again and dont even remember hafe the stuff or conversations but still remember main missions

[PMC65]

ladyvader wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

The idea of Shepard and Liara breaking up some time in future after the war is over seems so weird to me. considering what the relationship has been though.

Agreed.  If they didn't break after the LotSB, I don't see why they would after the war with the Reapers is over.

If both their homeworlds/species are in ruins/need, I could see them focusing on the rebuild: Shepard helping humanity rebuild and Liara the asari.

Both of these characters (in my game play) care about their people and if it requires them to separate it would not be easy, but they would for the greater good. That is one reason they wold separate, although I have a couple more reasons on why it would come about.

Some reasons are character driven and specific to my Shepard. So as you can see, I have no clue on how my love story will end. I won't know until I play ME3 to help guide and flesh out the ending.

If Liara dying in the game is an option and is not only valid but emotionally powerful, then I would let the game run its course. Not saying it would be easy, but if it felt truthful ... 

Blame it on being raised with the classics ... happy endings aren't always the right endings. And sometimes loving someone means letting them go. My favorite love story is the perfect example = Cyrano de Bergerac 

[PMC65]

Robhuzz wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Shepard & Liara's future is really uncertain for me at this time ...

The two could stay together until Shepard dies, Liara could die during the war or they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

I won't know what will become of them until the war unfolds and finally ends.

Come on 3/6/2012                    

Both Liara and Shepard will survive ME3. If Liara doesn't survive, I might sacrifice Shepard in the final battle (if possible) to stop the reapers. IF you believe in the afterlife it's a comforting thought that Liara and Shepard will at least be together, albeit differently than expected.

I doubt it'll come to the situation mentioned above though. I actually wonder if there's a way to break up with Liara in ME3, I'd be interested in her response if Shepard broke up with her after all this time. Though even though I'd reload an earlier save as soon as the scene ends I think I'd feel incredibly guilty about it...

There are so many things that could happen in ME3. Breaking up in ME3? Hmmm. Since they are introducing new LI's this may be possible. If the new chick introduced is hot then ....  

No, it wouldn't feel true to the story, this Shepard changing gears. The new gal (if hot) will need to hook her claws in a different Shepard, not Liara's.

[TMA LIVE]

I kind of wish that there isn't any new LI's for ME3 for story reasons. I just can't imagine a good story where the main character stayed single for 2 full games, only to just do it with someone he/she just met before the galaxy dies. I could only see something good from that, storywise, if it was with someone from a past game.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 15 juin 2011 - 02:31 .

[felipejiraya]

Somewhere in the future Shepard and Liara will have the infamous "lifespan talk" () but until then let them be happy together.

I really don't mind Shep dying before Liara, it's life and we all know the asari doesn't forget their companions even after they died.

Modifié par felipejiraya, 15 juin 2011 - 03:20 .

[ladyvader]

PMC65 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

they could end their relationship due to various reasons. Nervous about their future.

The idea of Shepard and Liara breaking up some time in future after the war is over seems so weird to me. considering what the relationship has been though.

Agreed.  If they didn't break after the LotSB, I don't see why they would after the war with the Reapers is over.

If both their homeworlds/species are in ruins/need, I could see them focusing on the rebuild: Shepard helping humanity rebuild and Liara the asari.

Both of these characters (in my game play) care about their people and if it requires them to separate it would not be easy, but they would for the greater good. That is one reason they wold separate, although I have a couple more reasons on why it would come about.

Some reasons are character driven and specific to my Shepard. So as you can see, I have no clue on how my love story will end. I won't know until I play ME3 to help guide and flesh out the ending.

If Liara dying in the game is an option and is not only valid but emotionally powerful, then I would let the game run its course. Not saying it would be easy, but if it felt truthful ... 

Blame it on being raised with the classics ... happy endings aren't always the right endings. And sometimes loving someone means letting them go. My favorite love story is the perfect example = Cyrano de Bergerac 

I don't think Shepard and Liara would have to break it off if both went back to their home worlds to rebuild.  They could have a long distance relationship and get together from time to time.    And about letting go, Liara wasn't very good at that remember.

[kaiki01]

Considering how fast interstellar travel is in ME. I am sure working on two different worlds would not cause the end of a relationship.

Modifié par kaiki01, 15 juin 2011 - 05:33 .

[PMC65]

ladyvader wrote...

I don't think Shepard and Liara would have to break it off if both went back to their home worlds to rebuild.  They could have a long distance relationship and get together from time to time.    And about letting go, Liara wasn't very good at that remember.

That's why it would be Shepard doing the walking ... It would make for a really emotional and hearthbreaking moment & the kind of love story I prefer. I don't think Liara would walk, although she would not have a problem separating for years. The asaris see time different than humans and she may not fully understand the human aging process. How could a species that not only lives 1000 years but doesn't age like we do really understand?

At this point of the love story I'm moving towards the "separation" route after the war ... Shepard's decision, but I don't know why just yet. It may not even be permanent (ideas floating around in my head) but ... The story could also see Liara dying. If she does though, it will not be in a vent or a Virmire type of death. The death would have to be important, and I mean IMPORTANT!

But until I play ME3, the ending is up in the air.  

O the brighter side, there will be a bajillion other Liara's with different Shepards living happily-ever-after, getting married and having blue babies. People tend to like that kind of story ... but for me, those kind of stories bore me to tears. As I said earlier, the classics destroyed me on "and they lived happily ever after".

[PMC65]

kaiki01 wrote...

Considering how fast interstellar travel is in ME. I am sure working on two different worlds would not cause the end of a relationship.

Some of the obstacles could be that very "rebuilding" ... you would see politics, species maneuvering for the better worlds that may be less destroyed, etc. Look at what happened after the civil war, WWI & WWII ... UGLY. What happens if the humans & asari are now at odds?

Let's say the human planets are toast but the asari have healthy planets. The humans need a place and the asari refuse ... humans meet batarians & quarians.  

Then place Shepard & Liara on opposite sides, would they make it? In my role play, they both want to see their own species survive.

Liara would defend the asaris decision to not allow this shortlived species to move in because they would overpopulate, demand too much resources that would potentially ... okay probably harm the asaris and bully along the way. We would quickly forget that we are guests and act like we are "entitled". I hate how Liara does her research! 

Shepard, knowing that Dr. T'Soni has done her research, would still argue that humans need a place to live, that our history would not be repeated on a different world (wink, wink), that the asaris have the only planets left that humans can live on and "Damn it T'Soni, without us there wouldn't be any planets left."

How would that impact their relationship? Sleeping on the couch would be an understatement.  

There are so many forks in the road "after the war".  

[kaiki01]

PMC65 wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

Considering how fast interstellar travel is in ME. I am sure working on two different worlds would not cause the end of a relationship.

Some of the obstacles could be that very "rebuilding" ... you would see politics, species maneuvering for the better worlds that may be less destroyed, etc. Look at what happened after the civil war, WWI & WWII ... UGLY. What happens if the humans & asari are now at odds?

Let's say the human planets are toast but the asari have healthy planets. The humans need a place and the asari refuse ... humans meet batarians & quarians.  

Then place Shepard & Liara on opposite sides, would they make it? In my role play, they both want to see their own species survive.

Liara would defend the asaris decision to not allow this shortlived species to move in because they would overpopulate, demand too much resources that would potentially ... okay probably harm the asaris and bully along the way. We would quickly forget that we are guests and act like we are "entitled". I hate how Liara does her research! 

Shepard, knowing that Dr. T'Soni has done her research, would still argue that humans need a place to live, that our history would not be repeated on a different world (wink, wink), that the asaris have the only planets left that humans can live on and "Damn it T'Soni, without us there wouldn't be any planets left."

How would that impact their relationship? Sleeping on the couch would be an understatement.  

There are so many forks in the road "after the war".  

Troll much?

1) In those human history examples there was no global government as the Citadel Council is the established galactic government in Citadel space. Citadel space, as indicated in the ME games, clearly defines what planets belong to what races.

2) The rest of your post is built on the assumption of there being no council, or a human dominated council that works towards human galactic domination. Also, the assumption that humanity has the military resources to enforce such an expansion. These are alot of assumptions one must build on to reach your scenario.

[PMC65]

[quote]kaiki01 wrote...

[/quote]

Troll much?

1) In those human history examples there was no global government as the Citadel Council is the established galactic government in Citadel space. Citadel space, as indicated in the ME games, clearly defines what planets belong to what races.

2) The rest of your post is built on the assumption of there being no council, or a human dominated council that works towards human galactic domination. Also, the assumption that humanity has the military resources to enforce such an expansion. These are alot of assumptions one must build on to reach your scenario.



[/quote]

What? If looking at different game plays is trolling then Wow! I guess the meaning has changed.

I personally like to discuss possible storylines and different paths one could role play. Nowhere in my post does it say that it would happen, I was discussing a possible conflict that might impact MY Shepard & Liara relationship. Sorry if you felt that I was taking your Shepard & Liara hostage, that was not my intent.

I always found the Liara & Ash threads open to different role plays & discussions about what the characters might do, but if this thread is different now.  Thanks for the heads up.

[ladyvader]

[quote]PMC65 wrote...

[quote]kaiki01 wrote...

[/quote]

Troll much?

1) In those human history examples there was no global government as the Citadel Council is the established galactic government in Citadel space. Citadel space, as indicated in the ME games, clearly defines what planets belong to what races.

2) The rest of your post is built on the assumption of there being no council, or a human dominated council that works towards human galactic domination. Also, the assumption that humanity has the military resources to enforce such an expansion. These are alot of assumptions one must build on to reach your scenario.



[/quote]

What? If looking at different game plays is trolling then Wow! I guess the meaning has changed.

I personally like to discuss possible storylines and different paths one could role play. Nowhere in my post does it say that it would happen, I was discussing a possible conflict that might impact MY Shepard & Liara relationship. Sorry if you felt that I was taking your Shepard & Liara hostage, that was not my intent.

I always found the Liara & Ash threads open to different role plays & discussions about what the characters might do, but if this thread is different now.  Thanks for the heads up.
[/quote]I wouldn't worry about it, PMC.  I am actually enjoying our discussions.   I think we both are talking about after ME3 and what not.   I see what you are saying too.   There are nth possiblities on what happens between Liara and Shepard.    Mine is happy ever after with problems thrown in here and there.  There is no such thing as perfect or always happy.  They can and will try their best.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kaiki01 wrote...
Troll much?

Really? How is he trolling?

I would not say that the possibility of a conflict of interest  in the aftermath of the war between whatever species there are left is farfetched. It is entierly possible that it could happen between human and asari. Hell, I would say that Shepard might even have to make such a decision during ME3.

[PMC65]

ladyvader wrote...

I wouldn't worry about it, PMC.  I am actually enjoying our discussions.   I think we both are talking about after ME3 and what not.   I see what you are saying too.   There are nth possiblities on what happens between Liara and Shepard.    Mine is happy ever after with problems thrown in here and there.  There is no such thing as perfect or always happy.  They can and will try their best.

Thanks! I don't want to step on other players Liara's ... I hate it when I feel like my game play is being taking hostage, so I would hate to make others feel that. Maybe I give too much detail on my game play, but I like others to go into detail as well, it's interesting and sometimes gives me new ideas.

[rpgfan321]

 I was really surprised how much Liara has changed in the second game. I mean she was all sweet albeit distant. But in the second game... wow. But I understood her reasons. I mean if she didn't change she would be a very weak  character. 

What I am really curious about is how will Liara become your squadmate? Isn't she the new Shadowbroker one who traffics tons of information that manipulates the galaxy? Probably be resolved in the beginning of the game, but I am eager to know how the story will play out. 

My first impression with female Shepard and Liara romance was "Oh... Lesbians." But no.. over time I saw it less than that and saw it just a regular romance. I did not see the Asari race as pure females. Just as a race in the universe. They may have female voices and body, but that is just part of the lore. I guess what I am trying to say is that romance with Liara have given me some new view points to consider that's all. 

Anyway as a character I am looking forward to how Liara will balance work with love life now she has join the power club. Being the Shadowbroker will mean she gains all the enemies the previous Shadowbrokers have gathered. I wonder if my Shepard will have the option to quit the Alliance after the Reapers and become her bodyguard until she dies? Because that will be an awesome ending for my Shepard with Liara right there. 
I'm sure she will play a great role to Shepard on information gathering and important plot device. Can't wait!

By and by, the Lair of the  Shadow Broker DLC blew my mind! Staging and executing a coup d'etat was just awesome! 

[PMC65]

Lizardviking wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...
Troll much?

Really? How is he trolling?

I would not say that the possibility of a conflict of interest  in the aftermath of the war between whatever species there are left is farfetched. It is entierly possible that it could happen between human and asari. Hell, I would say that Shepard might even have to make such a decision during ME3.

Thanks! Before you and ladyvader commented I thought I had gone into that dark void of .

I love the Liara and Ash communities, both have always been great for sharing different ideas.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...
Thanks! Before you and ladyvader commented I thought I had gone into that dark void of .

I love the Liara and Ash communities, both have always been great for sharing different ideas.

Don't worry. I may not agree with all that you say, but I try my best to be respectful.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 15 juin 2011 - 07:26 .

[kaiki01]

@PMC65

I am coming out straight and apologizing. I saw your post as an attack. I didn't see how your post related to my own post. I was just commenting on how distance didn't mean the end of the relationship. Which at first glance, to me, did not relate to your own post. My first and only thought was that you were starting to troll/derail the thread into asari vs humans. So that is where I was coming from. I see I was wrong and I apologize for leaping to conclusions.