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#20101
MaroAlighieri

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Did anyone else forgo clicking on things in Athame's temple because Shep sounded dumb asking about everything? All I could think was "You're looking for a secret artifact Shep. It wouldn't be very secret if it were on display now would it? You dumb B."

#20102
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hoodie_gypsy wrote...


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Cuteness and everything being said, this is really a good piece of penmanship.You got the proportions right, and the way the limbs interact is very realistic.

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#20103
adneate

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Yeah, I'm like "My Shepard doesn't want kids."

Then I see pics like that, "Ah, maybe one."


It's also Liara's influence if she wants a baby then Shepard ain't going to say no and risk seeing Liara's sad face. Should have used that instead of the Crucible, Reapers get one look at sad Liara and they'll pack it up and wait for the next cycle.

T'Soni's are the key to defeating the Reapers!

#20104
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is liara's romance more based on the emotional bond that she shares with Shepard, or is it just me?

#20105
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adneate wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
Yeah, I'm like "My Shepard doesn't want kids."

Then I see pics like that, "Ah, maybe one."


It's also Liara's influence if she wants a baby then Shepard ain't going to say no and risk seeing Liara's sad face. Should have used that instead of the Crucible, Reapers get one look at sad Liara and they'll pack it up and wait for the next cycle.

T'Soni's are the key to defeating the Reapers!


Why didn't you get a job at BW and write the ending?

#20106
The Lightspeaker

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adneate wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
Yeah, I'm like "My Shepard doesn't want kids."

Then I see pics like that, "Ah, maybe one."


It's also Liara's influence if she wants a baby then Shepard ain't going to say no and risk seeing Liara's sad face. Should have used that instead of the Crucible, Reapers get one look at sad Liara and they'll pack it up and wait for the next cycle.

T'Soni's are the key to defeating the Reapers!


Nobody can resist sad Liara.

#20107
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Hey everyone. I just came across a post on the ME facebook page that gives some hope of getting the ending changed. Image IPB I'll paste it here for those of you who haven't seen it;


"We are aware that there are concerns about a recent post from this account regarding the ending of the game. In this post it was stated that at this time we do not have plans to change the ending.
 
We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out. At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending.
 
Your feedback and opinions are of the utmost importance to us. We apologize for any confusion this has caused. Our top priority regarding this discussion is to keep communication with you, our loyal fans, open and productive."

#20108
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jlb524 wrote...
Why didn't you get a job at BW and write the ending?


They only hire bad writers.

http://forum.gaijinp...47&d=1308157953

#20109
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adneate wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
Why didn't you get a job at BW and write the ending?


They only hire bad writers.

*snip*


Rofl!  Win!

emeraldisle88 wrote...

"We are aware that there are
concerns about a recent post from this account regarding the ending of
the game. In this post it was stated that at this time we do not have
plans to change the ending.
 
We would like to clarify that we are
actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration
and have ruled nothing out. At this time we are still collecting and
considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding
requests to change the ending.


That just makes me feel angry more than hopeful, backs up the disheartening belief that they actually planned the endings to be as stupid as they are.  Without DLC intention.

Modifié par doozer12, 20 mars 2012 - 01:37 .


#20110
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draken-heart wrote...

is liara's romance more based on the emotional bond that she shares with Shepard, or is it just me?


Asking a question you know the answer to? Meditate on this, young grasshopper. :)

adneate wrote...

They only hire bad writers.


Hey now... a bad writer could never have given us the reason for this thread, right?

Modifié par Kilshrek, 20 mars 2012 - 01:34 .


#20111
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Eh, they did amazing jobs with the characters (liara especially) and a few missions in ME3, praise worthy missions. End boss in ME2 was kinda dumb, LotSB was ME2's only saving grace and arrival and reuniting with wrex- but i wont get into that. Which confuses me as to why they even thought for a fraction of a second how those final 10-15 minutes were a such a good idea... I am suspicious or disappointed or both...
As it stands, they have upset the Shepard/Liara future we were fighting for!  There will be a reckoning!  ...like this

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tears.  crisp, bitter, blue asari tears.  look what you did bioware!  LOOK!  In about 10 minutes she'll recieve news you killed her bondmate and... well Im short on angry liara photos at the moment...

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#20112
MaroAlighieri

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I have a feeling that even if Liara's writing was atrocious, Ali's work would still be amazing. Thus Liara would still be loveable...even if she was dumb and made no sense.

Modifié par MaroAlighieri, 20 mars 2012 - 01:46 .


#20113
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doozer12 wrote...

That just makes me feel angry more than hopeful, backs up the disheartening belief that they actually planned the endings to be as stupid as they are.  Without DLC intention.


I have to agree, although it makes me more disappointed than angry, that for whatever bizarre reasons they thought it was an acceptable ending. If the indoctrination theory was true it makes them look better but I'm starting to think the whole end was planned to be viewed literally which makes the complete collapse of plot at the end just a giant screw up, rather than part of a dlc plan. I'm just hopeful that we might get something better than the ending we have to put up with.

#20114
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I can't fathom that nobody on the team would go, "Hey, guys...this ending blows." So I have a little faith.

On the other hand, the pessimist in me is saying that they fully intended that to be it and won't change it.

Modifié par MaroAlighieri, 20 mars 2012 - 01:51 .


#20115
Kilshrek

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emeraldisle88 wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

That just makes me feel angry more than hopeful, backs up the disheartening belief that they actually planned the endings to be as stupid as they are.  Without DLC intention.


I have to agree, although it makes me more disappointed than angry, that for whatever bizarre reasons they thought it was an acceptable ending. If the indoctrination theory was true it makes them look better but I'm starting to think the whole end was planned to be viewed literally which makes the complete collapse of plot at the end just a giant screw up, rather than part of a dlc plan. I'm just hopeful that we might get something better than the ending we have to put up with.


I think disappointment is the right word here. To totally disregard the prospect for a happy ending is to completely break with how ME 1 and ME 2 were established. Against all odds, and Phil Collins is playing in my head. But back to the point, Bioware probably did think they could get away with the endings as they were. Look at all their statements so far. It's practically saying, oh, err... we didn't know they weren't good enough.

Look at the lack of little blue babies in this thread, Bioware! This is all on you! hoodie's awesomely cute baby Shepard doesn't count! :pinched:

#20116
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Curses! Why does this thread always move so fast while I'm asleep. I feel like I'm missing out on heaps! 

Anyway...

hoodie_gypsy wrote...


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D'awwww! So cute!

#20117
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MaroAlighieri wrote...

I can't fathom that nobody on the team would go, "Hey, guys...this ending blows." So I have a little faith.

On the other hand, the pessimist in me is saying that they fully intended that to be it and won't change it.


Paid.  Bias.  Wannabe Philosophers/Intellectuals that spent too much time watching other peoples sci-fi's - couldnt think of their own artsy fartsy conclusion so mixed all those other ideas together and dubbed it ME3 Ending.

*looks at the baby picture*...
*calms down*
*sighs* Her fingers are adorable...

Modifié par doozer12, 20 mars 2012 - 02:01 .


#20118
MaroAlighieri

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Ok this discussion is making me all angsty. Let's talk about Liara's boobs or something.

#20119
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doozer12 wrote...

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Please no more...this picture is genuinely making me sad. :(

#20120
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The thing that I don't understand though is if they intended the ending, or I should say the 3 'endings' to be taken at face value why would they put in that scene of supposedly Shepard's body in the rubble if the player's EMS is high enough?! It's all so confusing. Image IPBThe ending seems to conflict with itself nevermind nearly everything established in the previous 2 games. The worst conflict is giving us hope of blue babies and taking that away. That's a crime right thereImage IPB

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#20121
Kilshrek

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emeraldisle88 wrote...
The worst conflict is giving us hope of blue babies and taking that away. That's a crime right thereImage IPB


That it  is... that it is...

Headcanon and fanfiction, the refuge of the broken, weary, disappointed ME fan...

#20122
MaroAlighieri

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SO, dem breasticles...

#20123
emeraldisle88

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Kilshrek wrote...

emeraldisle88 wrote...
The worst conflict is giving us hope of blue babies and taking that away. That's a crime right thereImage IPB


That it  is... that it is...

Headcanon and fanfiction, the refuge of the broken, weary, disappointed ME fan...


I second that. Image IPB Without the changed ending in my head and fanfiction fixing it up it would be a whole lot more unbearable. I could finally bring myself to start another playthrough. It's not the same though once you know how it ends.

#20124
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Kilshrek wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I prefer doing what makes babies but still being able to sleep in on Sundays. Image IPB


In that case, don't we all?

But think about it for 5 minutes, the time it takes for the ME 3 ending to ruin your happy ending. Wouldn't that little baby be the most incredible thing to ever happen in Shep's life?

****, I may have got some mother brain cells turned on, but.. looking at little Shep. That would make it all worthwhile. Fighting the Reapers, losing our nearest and dearest. Mordin giving his life so the Krogans could have a chance. Thane dying so the Councillor may live. Legion... integrating, so his people may know life. Even Kaidan/Ashley's death back on Virmire.

So many lost along the way, and yet, in some small way, they may live on in little Shepard.

**** me. I'll just keep drinking this drink and lurk for a bit.


The most incredible thing that could happen is that the ending never happened ... That Shepard was successful and Liara was in her arms kissing her.

Liara also does not want babies and so I also see those exchanges as their way of teasing one another. It's cute. But for those who want babies ... happy blue storks for all of you!

Meanwhile EW and Liara are playing with the little earth puppy that Liara found in the rubble. It was that strange little creature that saved her as she stopped her running and went over to it as it cried out in pain. She helped it get loose and she wasn't sure what it was ... wasn't sure but decided to get it to safety when it nuzzled her. Tali got on her once (Ilos) for sight seeing during a mission and this time her curiousity saved her. 

Oh, they named it Moonie after a dog that EW had when she was a kid. So, no baby ... an orphaned and hurt puppy.

That is just my headcanon for the moment to try and take away the current ending. Image IPB

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Add'l EDIT:

karmensandiego has asked me to ask everyone to stop posting until she catches up on this thread.

*ahem* Everyone ... spam this boat like the perfect storm ... see if she can ever catch up! Image IPB

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#20125
Kilshrek

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PMC65 wrote...

The most incredible thing that could happen is that the ending never happened ... That Shepard was successful and Liara was in her arms kissing her.

Liara also does not want babies and so I also see those exchanges as their way of teasing one another. It's cute. But for those who want babies ... happy blue storks for all of you!

Meanwhile EW and Liara are playing with the little earth puppy that Liara found in the rubble. It was that strange little creature that saved her as she stopped her running and went over to it as it cried out in pain. She helped it get loose and she wasn't sure what it was ... wasn't sure but decided to get it to safety when it nuzzled her. Tali got on her once (Ilos) for sight seeing during a mission and this time her curiousity saved her. 

Oh, they named it Moonie after a dog that EW had when she was a kid. So, no baby ... an orphaned and hurt puppy.

That is just my headcanon for the moment to try and take away the current ending. Image IPB

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And a beautiful headcanon it is, even if the origins are.... grimdark... I never could imagine Mindoir, because I could never picture a raid like that... My grandparents lived through the Japanese Occupation of (most of) Asia...

I wish I had the time for imagination... But real life work are making demands on my time, and my ME 3 hangover isn't over. It feels like breaking up all over again, only.. and this is the really crazy part, nobody actually broke up with me.

But fanfiction is my sustenance for now. Watching your "baby" of many years die just like that isn't easy to take...