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[Kachie]

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

I think the Codex and Liara's reference to 'female' is to describe the Asari on a human level. Before they got off of Thessia I would think that they didn't have an idea of a Male.

Ah the spoils of war. Time to claim what's yours. 

Normally I find male shepxLiara art awkward (I'm weird) but I really do love this one. The smirk on his face and the way Liara's has hold of his shoulder and the look on her face.

[ladyvader]

jamesp81 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

How cool, SilentNukee.

I saw a tweet from Ali Hillis yesterday about how she thought the FFXXIII Lightning figure was cool. Wonder what she thinks of Liara getting her own figure too.

I suppose she'd feel honored or at the very least just happy. Ali Hillis sort of IS Liara. More so than Jillian Murray imo.

I just realized "Male & female have no meaning" implies that every animal species on their homeworld is female.

Well, this just applies to the Asari themselves, not other species originating from Thessia. She actually says "Male and female have no real meaning for us" meaning you can't accurately call Asari females because frankly, they're not.

Problem with that is that the codex refers to them as an all-female species.

I think that is biggest mistake the writers made too when they created the codex.  I'd rather go by what an actually asari says whether is Liara or another asari than read the codex.    Even Aria mentions that is why she called the Krogan Patriarch.  She found it funny bacause that word has no meaning for her people.  

[Kadzin]

Kachie wrote...

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

I think the Codex and Liara's reference to 'female' is to describe the Asari on a human level. Before they got off of Thessia I would think that they didn't have an idea of a Male.

Ah the spoils of war. Time to claim what's yours. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

Normally I find male shepxLiara art awkward (I'm weird) but I really do love this one. The smirk on his face and the way Liara's has hold of his shoulder and the look on her face.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

Shepard is totally coping a feel... and Liara doesn't mind

Modifié par Kadzin, 26 juillet 2011 - 06:53 .

[TheMarshal]

ladyvader wrote...

I think that is biggest mistake the writers made too when they created the codex.  I'd rather go by what an actually asari says whether is Liara or another asari than read the codex.    Even Aria mentions that is why she called the Krogan Patriarch.  She found it funny bacause that word has no meaning for her people.  

I'm more inclined to believe that Liara's line was a bit of a cop-out on the writer's part in order to assuage the "omg gay lesbian sexx simulator!!" fears.  I'm placing my money on the codex, which was written to be the inelegant delivery of the universe to us, the player.  Dialogue is a far more interesting means of conveying such information, but it's subject to literary flourishes and character-specific interpretations.

[ladyvader]

Kadzin wrote...

Kachie wrote...

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

I think the Codex and Liara's reference to 'female' is to describe the Asari on a human level. Before they got off of Thessia I would think that they didn't have an idea of a Male.

Ah the spoils of war. Time to claim what's yours. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

Normally I find male shepxLiara art awkward (I'm weird) but I really do love this one. The smirk on his face and the way Liara's has hold of his shoulder and the look on her face.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

Shepard is totally coping a feel... and Liara doesn't mind

Watch what Liara does to femShep during their hugs(LotSB).  Liara is totally coping a feel on Shepard's boobs  She did it after the kiss interrupt after defeating the SB and again during the cabin scene by the elevator before Liara leaves.  And my femShep doesn't mind at all.

Nice artwork too. 

[ladyvader]

TheMarshal wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I think that is biggest mistake the writers made too when they created the codex.  I'd rather go by what an actually asari says whether is Liara or another asari than read the codex.    Even Aria mentions that is why she called the Krogan Patriarch.  She found it funny bacause that word has no meaning for her people.  

I'm more inclined to believe that Liara's line was a bit of a cop-out on the writer's part in order to assuage the "omg gay lesbian sexx simulator!!" fears.  I'm placing my money on the codex, which was written to be the inelegant delivery of the universe to us, the player.  Dialogue is a far more interesting means of conveying such information, but it's subject to literary flourishes and character-specific interpretations.

What about Aria comment about Patriarch and her naming him that because she found it funny and that word has no meaning for asari?

[jamesp81]

Robhuzz wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

How cool, SilentNukee.

I saw a tweet from Ali Hillis yesterday about how she thought the FFXXIII Lightning figure was cool. Wonder what she thinks of Liara getting her own figure too.

I suppose she'd feel honored or at the very least just happy. Ali Hillis sort of IS Liara. More so than Jillian Murray imo.

I just realized "Male & female have no meaning" implies that every animal species on their homeworld is female.

Well, this just applies to the Asari themselves, not other species originating from Thessia. She actually says "Male and female have no real meaning for us" meaning you can't accurately call Asari females because frankly, they're not.

Problem with that is that the codex refers to them as an all-female species.

True. I believe the codex does display some inconsistencies. However I felt while Asari are obviously female to the outside (other races) they simply do not view themselves as such because there are no males either.

I think that Liara even makes a few comments about this in game.

Another thing worth considering, if you're going to have a mono-gendered species they almost have to be feminine.  Females are the ones that have the children after all, so no females, no children, and Darwin selects you to get the shaft, and that's it.

But who are we kidding?  They were designed to be hot space babes.  What I love about them as a whole is that that's not their entire and only schtick.  There's a lot of cultural subtelty to learn about if you pay attention.

The Asari are also very colorful as a whole.  I think the whole "mate with other species" thing has introduced a myriad of other traits into their society.  As a result, when you talk to one, it's hard to tell what you've got given how wildly variable they can be.  Aethyta, for example, is someone that I'm not surprised had a Krogan father.

Modifié par jamesp81, 26 juillet 2011 - 07:30 .

[TheMarshal]

ladyvader wrote...

What about Aria comment about Patriarch and her naming him that because she found it funny and that word has no meaning for asari?

What about it?  As a race of all females, they wouldn't need any male-gendered pronouns.  Of course, that's a lie, because they've spent the past two-thousand years around salarians, and certainly in that time their vernacular would have adapted somewhat.  And even before that, it's unlikely that every species on their planet was female-only.  Just like we have words for mono-gendered (and non-gendered) species, they'd have some way of referring to things which are not like themselves.

[Kachie]

rather off topic but how the hell do you guys use custom avatars?

[KingNothing125]

I think it's reasonable to assume that a sizeable number of species of fauna on Thessia are mono-gendered like the Asari. It's evolutionary theory... every organism shares ancestry with one another at some point in the past. Procreation is a big part of that. Take Earth for example. There is a huge diversity of life, yet the vast majority of species reproduce in pretty similar ways. All mammals reproduce the same way, just like all birds and lizards do, amphibians, etc.

It would be odd if the Asari were unique in their mind-melding, DNA-randomizing method, especially on an Eezo-soaked planet. Biotics-related procreation is probably extremely common on Thessia.

Same way every animal on Pandora has those weird head hair tenticle things.

Modifié par KingNothing125, 26 juillet 2011 - 07:48 .

[TheMarshal]

A fair point. I doubt that ALL organic life native to Thessia evolved along the same path, especially if the eezo exposure only came within the last several million years, but the idea that the asari are unique in all aspects of their biology is a bit far-fetched, I'll admit.

[brainless78]

jamesp81 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

How cool, SilentNukee.

I saw a tweet from Ali Hillis yesterday about how she thought the FFXXIII Lightning figure was cool. Wonder what she thinks of Liara getting her own figure too.

I suppose she'd feel honored or at the very least just happy. Ali Hillis sort of IS Liara. More so than Jillian Murray imo.

I just realized "Male & female have no meaning" implies that every animal species on their homeworld is female.

Well, this just applies to the Asari themselves, not other species originating from Thessia. She actually says "Male and female have no real meaning for us" meaning you can't accurately call Asari females because frankly, they're not.

Problem with that is that the codex refers to them as an all-female species.

True. I believe the codex does display some inconsistencies. However I felt while Asari are obviously female to the outside (other races) they simply do not view themselves as such because there are no males either.

I think that Liara even makes a few comments about this in game.

Another thing worth considering, if you're going to have a mono-gendered species they almost have to be feminine.  Females are the ones that have the children after all, so no females, no children, and Darwin selects you to get the shaft, and that's it.

But who are we kidding? They were designed to be hot space babes.  What I love about them as a whole is that that's not their entire and only schtick.  There's a lot of cultural subtelty to learn about if you pay attention.

Yeah, and if bioware had decided to take a slightly more "realistic" approach, we'd be left with an entire species of androgynous d!ck-girls. Yuck.

[brainless78]

*Double post.*

Modifié par brainless78, 26 juillet 2011 - 08:18 .

[MGIII]

Luna Siwora wrote...

Hi, Liaramancers!
I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I liked it and I think it's worth sharing it.

"Embrace Eternity" by ~JCros

If I had to guess, the body is that of a real woman shopped blue with Liara's head stuck on it. Pretty effective.

[kumquats]

brainless78 wrote...

Yeah, and if bioware had decided to take a slightly more "realistic" approach, we'd be left with an entire species of androgynous d!ck-girls. Yuck.

It would be more of an asari clone war.
All female race, clone themselves.
Not one Liara would be in Mass Effect, it would be millions!
The asexual reproduction has reach, but the heterosexual has more flexibility.
I think this subject is very fascinating.

But I like the fictional twist with the father species, I want a little blue child that calls my femShep daddy!

Modifié par kumquats, 26 juillet 2011 - 08:51 .

[Kadzin]

Gonna post this pic again cuz I like it so.
Dr. T'Soni is about to operate ^^

[CaptREDKangaroo]

Not sure if ppl ever saw the Star Trek the Next Gen episode: The Outcast: http://en.wikipedia....ext_Generation)

Involves an androgynous species, that's casted all female. But somewhat similar reasoning... (I mean they don't look like hot spacebabes like Asari lol but why female).

[ladyvader]

TheMarshal wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

What about Aria comment about Patriarch and her naming him that because she found it funny and that word has no meaning for asari?

What about it?  As a race of all females, they wouldn't need any male-gendered pronouns.  Of course, that's a lie, because they've spent the past two-thousand years around salarians, and certainly in that time their vernacular would have adapted somewhat.  And even before that, it's unlikely that every species on their planet was female-only.  Just like we have words for mono-gendered (and non-gendered) species, they'd have some way of referring to things which are not like themselves.

Your answer is why I asked.  Thanks. 

[SilentNukee]

kumquats wrote...

I go with the Fox News theorie.

@Fiddles_stix, I can see a little bit of Ali there.

@SilentNukee, I give you my favourite Liara - side view for that. Enjoy.

Actually, thank you! That pic is adorably cute. :3 Also, I need a side-view of Liara for something that I'm drawing, so this is perrrfect. 

[SilentNukee]

Blue_2 wrote...

@SilentNuke That's sooo cute <3333

I demand chocolate blue Liara. Where's that pic when you need it...

Here you go.

[InfoGuy101]

Here's a clearer look at the statue picture for Liara, quiet nice.

[ladyvader]

SilentNukee wrote...

Blue_2 wrote...

@SilentNuke That's sooo cute <3333

I demand chocolate blue Liara. Where's that pic when you need it...

Here you go.

Where to begin on that. 

[Kachie]

ladyvader wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Blue_2 wrote...

@SilentNuke That's sooo cute <3333

I demand chocolate blue Liara. Where's that pic when you need it...

Here you go.

Where to begin on that. 

Chocolate covered Liara... My favorite desert