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[Robhuzz]

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
The vid doesn't really debunk Indoctrination theory since Shepard could have been on the Citadel and got indoctrinated there.

If the indoctrination theory is true. Then why does the catalyst only provide the destruction option for Shepard in the bad ending?

How do you determine a good from bad ending? I've seen all the source video for all the good/bad endings, theres not a lot of difference between them. They were all bad endings, but I feel the least bad was the destroy the Reapers end. In any of the chices though, if you didn;t have enough asset points, the earth get toasted, which is the only real difference.

The worst ending is the version of destroy where the energy wave kills both organics and the Reapers. There is also the part wher Harbinger kills Shepard's squadmates as well if you have a low amount of war assest (not sure if there are more throughout the London battle).

I thought that part where Harbinger kills your 2 squadmembers was cut from the game, at least that's what it said as a title for the vid on youtube. Are you sure it's still in the released game version?

I don't think even they know, they are clearly in a state of total shock that these endings were rejected. At this point nobody can predict what they'll do anymore then they can stick their tongue out the window and predict the barometric pressure 3 weeks from now. The most they've concretely said is they're going to do something, probably. 

And I'm still having trouble believing this. The current ending is so full of plot holes, things that go completely against the lore and space magic that I do not believe BioWare could even think the fans would accept this ending, not after all the promises they made. I'm very conflicted in this matter...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 23 mars 2012 - 08:48 .

[Deventh]

@jlb: Thanks!

[GODofWAR93]

jeez this thread is active, I guess we have to thank Liara for that : )
we're almost at 1000 pages!

[Sunnie]

Robhuzz wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
The vid doesn't really debunk Indoctrination theory since Shepard could have been on the Citadel and got indoctrinated there.

If the indoctrination theory is true. Then why does the catalyst only provide the destruction option for Shepard in the bad ending?

How do you determine a good from bad ending? I've seen all the source video for all the good/bad endings, theres not a lot of difference between them. They were all bad endings, but I feel the least bad was the destroy the Reapers end. In any of the chices though, if you didn;t have enough asset points, the earth get toasted, which is the only real difference.

The worst ending is the version of destroy where the energy wave kills both organics and the Reapers. There is also the part wher Harbinger kills Shepard's squadmates as well if you have a low amount of war assest (not sure if there are more throughout the London battle).

I thought that part where Harbinger kills your 2 squadmembers was cut from the game, at least that's what it said as a title for the vid on youtube. Are you sure it's still in the released game version?

It was scrapped, it does not appear in the released game.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Robhuzz wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
The vid doesn't really debunk Indoctrination theory since Shepard could have been on the Citadel and got indoctrinated there.

If the indoctrination theory is true. Then why does the catalyst only provide the destruction option for Shepard in the bad ending?

How do you determine a good from bad ending? I've seen all the source video for all the good/bad endings, theres not a lot of difference between them. They were all bad endings, but I feel the least bad was the destroy the Reapers end. In any of the chices though, if you didn;t have enough asset points, the earth get toasted, which is the only real difference.

The worst ending is the version of destroy where the energy wave kills both organics and the Reapers. There is also the part wher Harbinger kills Shepard's squadmates as well if you have a low amount of war assest (not sure if there are more throughout the London battle).

I thought that part where Harbinger kills your 2 squadmembers was cut from the game, at least that's what it said as a title for the vid on youtube. Are you sure it's still in the released game version?

The cutscene was removed. But if you do a poor enough job gathering war assest, Shepard will find the corpses of his two squadmates when he is crawling towards the conduit.

[ladyvader]

jlb524 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I could see EW picking the  'I want to be alone' option because she would want to put on a brave face ... she would also want to pray to her mother for strength and guidance. So she asked Liara to leave but her lover only left to return an half hour later ...

Shepard just ending her prayer would hear someone enter causing her to quickly wipe her eyes.
Liara: "I know you wanted to be alone but ... I ... I couldn't stay away."
Shepard, wiping away the last of her tears forces a smile: "You couldn't huh?"
Liara, looking unsure as she tries to gauge Shepard's emotions: "No."
Shepard, tired and needing to regain her composure, pats the spot next to her and Liara smiles. 
As Liara sits next to Shepard she sees the bracelet with a cross on the table: "How is Hannah?"
Shepard looking down at where Liara is looking: "She's fine."
Liara: "She was beautiful."
Shepard: "Very ... And how is the Matriarch?"
Liara gives a small laugh: "Sends her strength."
Shepard: "Hmm"
Shepard moves down and then places her head in Liara's lap as she closes her eyes, "Can we not talk for just a while?"
Liara smiles: "For a while and then bed."
Shepard: "Bed or bed?"
Liara gives a slight giggle: "Commander!"
Shepard joins in the laughter: "Okay, bed."
Liara runs her fingers through Shepard's hair and hums an asari lullaby as Shepard drifts off to sleep: "Sleep because when you wake up you will need your strength. Both for our bed and the battlefield."   

That's how I saw it ... Bioware make a PMC65 Edition just for me!

Nice!

Does Hannah die in ME3?  

I just started my Spacer.

Leia is a spacer and Hackett told her, Hannah was working with him and promoted to fleet admiral.

[eoinnx03]

jlb524 wrote...

Nice sig, Deventh!

doozer12 wrote...

yea...yea Im in between denial and acceptance.  Angry bittter (sometimes tearful) acceptance...

Even my poor little grinch heart is breaking.

When is that image from?> Like where in me3?

[DOsquareZER]

When you say i wanna be alone during the romance scene.

And man server crash! Way to overload the system guys! sheesh posting too fast

[jlb524]

eoinnx03 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Nice sig, Deventh!

doozer12 wrote...

yea...yea Im in between denial and acceptance.  Angry bittter (sometimes tearful) acceptance...

Even my poor little grinch heart is breaking.

When is that image from?> Like where in me3?

It happens if you tell Liara you want to be alone before the Cerberus base.

[lil_89]

eoinnx03 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Nice sig, Deventh!

doozer12 wrote...

yea...yea Im in between denial and acceptance.  Angry bittter (sometimes tearful) acceptance...

Even my poor little grinch heart is breaking.

When is that image from?> Like where in me3?

It occurs if Shep says she/he want to be alone, in the love scene with Liara. 

This is almost as hard to watch as the LotSB rejection 

[WoolyJoe]

Isn't the choice to destroy the Reaper's the best ending...?
With the exception of the stuff you lose regardless, the only negative is the loss of the geth and various other happy-go-lucky synthetics, no?
That, and if you have a decent enough run through your Shepard survives, which seems, amongst the rest of the death around, like a major win - let that aftermath head-canon thrive
That, or it's all subjective, and I just agree with the whole Indoctrination Theory to some degrees, as well as the idea that it's the best resolution

Everyone likes some degree of interpretation - everyone to one's own, no?

[jlb524]

Liara needs a hug

[Pineappletree]

PMC65 wrote...
@FdL_Ananas - Here is a bottle of brass cleaning, statue polishing liquid! salut! P.S. A mad Liara is a sexy Liara.
[...]

Indeed!
So here's a toast to Javik!
May he anger Liara even more in the future so our Sheps (and all of us) can enjoy the sweet fruits he sows by doing so!

*gulps polish*
*falls over*
*has delirious dreams involving all rainbow colors but red, green and blue*

PMC65 wrote...
And remember ... KarmenS has asked that we slow down so SHE can catch up ...

Judging by the connection issues she had in MP yesterday, I'd say her PC allready died on page 700

Sunnie22 wrote...
I don't think thats the case at all. People
are not upset because they think Joker turned coward, they are upset
because in a matter of a couple minutes, the Normandy and its crew
(including the squad that was ON THE GROUND FIGHTING, along side Shepard
no less,) are suddenly 2 or3 hours and multiple relays away from Sol,
a-la space magac.

Pretty much this.
Additionally,
half of the London mission is about getting our forces down on the
ground at all. Then Joker flies the Normandy into the very epicenter of
that huge battle to steal away our squaddies from right under the nose
of Harbinger who just destroyed pretty much everything that was thrown
at him a minute ago?

eoinnx03 wrote...
When is that image from?> Like where in me3?

I think it's from the final romance scene, if Shep tells Liara s/he wants to be alone(?)

[Pineappletree]

WoolyJoe wrote...

Isn't the choice to destroy the Reaper's the best ending...?
With the exception of the stuff you lose regardless, the only negative is the loss of the geth and various other happy-go-lucky synthetics, no?
That, and if you have a decent enough run through your Shepard survives, which seems, amongst the rest of the death around, like a major win - let that aftermath head-canon thrive
That, or it's all subjective, and I just agree with the whole Indoctrination Theory to some degrees, as well as the idea that it's the best resolution

Everyone likes some degree of interpretation - everyone to one's own, no?

Judging by EMS required for the options to unlock, synthesis would be the best ending. Personally I think it's the worst ...

[PMC65]

Okay, who pis5ed Chris off again that he shut the board down again? Doozer? Or did KarmenS do something to stop us while she tries to catch up? KARMENS!!!

kumquats - That Wreav video was funny but she really didn't seem to care about what he said ... Now when Tela called her a pureblood that seemed to get under her skin. The B**** part I don't think mattered to her either.

jlb524 - Do you have an omni-tool fetish? I'm beginning to wonder.

Ferbian - I have wondered why they said to "keep your saves". But I'm really starting to lose the faith. I think Bioware just repeated their "suicide mission" all over again and don't know how to get out of it.
 
One more thing, why are there people sticking their tongues out the window? Did I miss a memo?

[joiner87]

okay, I checked over at 360 technical with no luck.....I cant get Liara to talk to me on the Citidel...cant get my date...cant even find Kaiden either....got the email from both of them....but neither speak to me...I want my date!!!!!!!!!

[Ferbian]

PMC65 wrote...

Ferbian - I have wondered why they said to "keep your saves". But I'm really starting to lose the faith. I think Bioware just repeated their "suicide mission" all over again and don't know how to get out of it.
 

Supposedly there'll be news by next month, maybe we'll see by then why they want us to keep our saves.

Maybe a DLC to further create our legacy by being the Alliance soldier who suddenly grew such a massive brain to rebuild the mass relays in every galaxy!

[TMA LIVE]

Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
The vid doesn't really debunk Indoctrination theory since Shepard could have been on the Citadel and got indoctrinated there.

If the indoctrination theory is true. Then why does the catalyst only provide the destruction option for Shepard in the bad ending?

It depends on if you kept or destroyed the Collector base. Because if you kept the base, it'll only offer control. If I had to guess, I'd say because Shepard is so determined to either control or destroying the Reapers, it won't even bother trying to give you other options. It knows, based on how much you have sacrificed to get to where you are now, that it can't convince you. So it doesn't even try.

That does not make any sense. If Shepard preforms poorly, Harbinger won't bother trying to indoctrinate a Shepard who destroyed the base? Why? Why does it only try if Shepard preforms well?

Because a Shepard that's trying to save everyone will want options to save everyone. While Shepard that destroys only wants to destroy. And Shepard that's wants to control wants to control.

That does not make sense. A Shepard that has a low amount of war assest still wants to save everyone, he just does a bad job doing it.

Yeah, but low assets mean you don't care about saving lives. You don't care about doing extra stuff to increase your chances. You just care about getting the job done. Despite given options, you pissed them away, and just focused on getting the job done. That's all this Shepard cares about, if his assets are so low.

So if it was trying to mess with you, it knows you're not going to bother with Merge. You only care about destroying the Reapers. Nor is it going to bother with Destroy, because it knows all you care about is Control.

At least, if it's all in your head, that's my theory.

[AlexMBrennan]

Presumably they're planning for some kind of continuation (thus the inevitable destruction of the relays and their reluctance to add happy endings rather than just providing more "closure") and want to avoid a SWTOR-style retcon.

[MaroAlighieri]

*Rejects Liara just to be an ass*................

*quits game*

[eoinnx03]

lil_89 wrote...

eoinnx03 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Nice sig, Deventh!

doozer12 wrote...

yea...yea Im in between denial and acceptance.  Angry bittter (sometimes tearful) acceptance...

Even my poor little grinch heart is breaking.

When is that image from?> Like where in me3?

It occurs if Shep says she/he want to be alone, in the love scene with Liara. 

This is almost as hard to watch as the LotSB rejection 

Anyone have footage of that?

[hollow22_]

jlb524 wrote...

Liara needs a hug

this one is sooo sweet:wub: I saw it somewhere before, IDK where, but I'm glad you managed to post it here now stealing it to you for future uses in the thread:devil:

[Ferbian]

jlb524 wrote...

Liara needs a hug

Seriously, they should've totally added that as a possible thing for someone who romanced Liara after Thessia, get some paragon interruption that allows you to hug her like that, then make your heroic speech that encourages her to get up and get to work.

[moreeman06]

Neeh wrote...

Weekend, yay! Lots of time, lots to do. Goes hand in hand, so many ideas and things to get down on screen or paper! It'll be monday before I know it..

Anyways! There's been some requests for more Sheploo, so here!

Yay I'm pretty sure most of us wanted a mshep version of this although Yuqi might have a hissy fit with the sheploo