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[jlb524]

TheMarshal wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

So, maybe I missed something, but why do I keep seeing "Little Wing?"

Did I miss some dialogue?

Benezia called Liara "Little Wing" in ME1 (it's her nickname).

In ME3, we discover that it originated with Aethyta.

I like how they wrapped up that story.  Especially the part where I get to threaten a matriarch with death if she ever messes with "my girl".

I never wanted to high-five Shepard so hard in my life.

Then I remembered the SB vids of Aethyta and started worrying for Shepard's safety.

[The Lightspeaker]

jlb524 wrote...

MalevoIence wrote...
I simply can't believe how Shepard and Liara are still stepping on eggshells romantically after 3 games. I'm not looking for gushy love, but you don't normally greet a lover with, "Thanks for stopping by." By the third game, I was expecting little blue children, what is Liara, sterile?

Considering she's a Maiden...yes.

Pretty sure Asari aren't actually sterile during the Maiden phase...just because they haven't got kids doesn't mean they can't. Unless I missed a Codex entry or something.

Logan Cloud wrote...

Ugh, you know what? I'm done with
every forum topic but this one. I have no issues with not liking the
ending, but this is just ridiculous...

I... I think I need some blue hugs...

Rest of the forum is just a depressing firestorm now.  I venture out from our Goddesses' safety occassionally and its never pretty.

Its more the fact that people are getting more and more vitriolic. If anything since the commitment from BioWare to do something its gotten worse, mainly because they won't say WHAT they're doing until April.

TheMarshal wrote...

Have some more blue babies!


Lots of Little Blue Children
~LiveAndLoveArt

Absolutely adorable.

jlb524 wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Well, even though "Thanks for stopping by" is a cop out, think of it this way:

Liara's
now the Shadow Broker. That's a lot of work/pressure for her. Shepard's
the face of humanity trying to save every sentient being in the galaxy.
WIth that sort of pressure on both of them, it'd be hard to find any
real romantic moment, you know?

And that strained relationship makes their few scenes all the more powerful.

I agree.  

I
do imagine that there are times they spend together that we don't see
on screen but both don't really have the time to do it that often...too
much is riding on both their shoulders.

I think it would be a bit
ridiculous if every Shepard/Liara interaction shown in game was
romantic.  I think in my first playthrough I was expecting that
(unrealistically) so I was bummed that there was no romance in the time
capsule scene...now it doesn't bother me.

I kinda agree with all of this. Although I also imagine theres stuff that we just don't see.

I know it seems a pretty cold response. But its better if you take it in view of the fact that they don't get to see as much of each other as they'd like and she REALLY MEANS IT even though she is a little distracted. She's genuinely glad you came to see her, its not just brushing you off.

Thats how I think of it anyway.

[moreeman06]

Logan Cloud wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Wow, that just went right over my head...
Well, I think I'll let Benezia call her that. Seems more like a parent thing than a lover thing.

She can be my Blueberry lmao.

She's still my blueberry but Little Wing is cute too and i have a feeling the Tiberius and Liara's child is going to get used to hearing that name to, then again their first kid is getting named Lily BeneziaT'soni-Shepard so maybe the kid will call mommy that

Little Wing is cute, but It's just a thing I have where I can never call someone by the nickname their parents gave them. I don't want her to think of her parents when she's thinking of me. O.o

Yeah when i said that above i meant that they will be calling the kid that, not shepard calling liara sorry if my sentence structure was off and the meaning didn't get across, I'm kinda taking a half-ass look at the threads right now while i try and work on a little ME oneshot

[Yuqi]

Renegade or Paragon romance with Liara? Which did you pick and why.

[karmensandiego]

PMC65 wrote...

For KarmenS when she gets to this page ...

I GOT TO THE PAGE PMC!!!! I'M ONLY 100+ PAGES BACK NOW!!!!

And about that pic...

...that's just not right...

[Yuqi]

jlb524 wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Well, even though "Thanks for stopping by" is a cop out, think of it this way:

Liara's now the Shadow Broker. That's a lot of work/pressure for her. Shepard's the face of humanity trying to save every sentient being in the galaxy. WIth that sort of pressure on both of them, it'd be hard to find any real romantic moment, you know?

And that strained relationship makes their few scenes all the more powerful.

I agree.  

I do imagine that there are times they spend together that we don't see on screen but both don't really have the time to do it that often...too much is riding on both their shoulders.

I think it would be a bit ridiculous if every Shepard/Liara interaction shown in game was romantic.  I think in my first playthrough I was expecting that (unrealistically) so I was bummed that there was no romance in the time capsule scene...now it doesn't bother me.

I thought (with the exception of the freind issue) that the romance having some more cynical parts, made alot of sense. Didn't Alli get to work of, of  Jen hale in the dialouge with the  new recording program, or something?

by Deventh

[jlb524]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Pretty sure Asari aren't actually sterile during the Maiden phase...just because they haven't got kids doesn't mean they can't. Unless I missed a Codex entry or something.

They are effectively sterile (in that phase).  They can meld and meld but never become pregnant.

Yuqi wrote...
Didn't Alli get to work of, of  Jen hale in the dialouge with the  new recording program, or something?

Yeah.

Yuqi wrote...

Renegade or Paragon romance with Liara? Which did you pick and why.

Do you mean, did you romance her with a Paragon or Renegade or did you pick Paragon lines vs. Renegade ones? 

Modifié par jlb524, 26 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[ladyvader]

Yuqi wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Well, even though "Thanks for stopping by" is a cop out, think of it this way:

Liara's now the Shadow Broker. That's a lot of work/pressure for her. Shepard's the face of humanity trying to save every sentient being in the galaxy. WIth that sort of pressure on both of them, it'd be hard to find any real romantic moment, you know?

And that strained relationship makes their few scenes all the more powerful.

I agree.  

I do imagine that there are times they spend together that we don't see on screen but both don't really have the time to do it that often...too much is riding on both their shoulders.

I think it would be a bit ridiculous if every Shepard/Liara interaction shown in game was romantic.  I think in my first playthrough I was expecting that (unrealistically) so I was bummed that there was no romance in the time capsule scene...now it doesn't bother me.

I thought (with the exception of the freind issue) that the romance having some more cynical parts, made alot of sense. Didn't Alli get to work of, of  Jen hale in the dialouge with the  new recording program, or something?

by Deventh

It seems so from some of her tweets when she was recording for ME3. 

[moreeman06]

Logan Cloud wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Wow, that just went right over my head...
Well, I think I'll let Benezia call her that. Seems more like a parent thing than a lover thing.

She can be my Blueberry lmao.

She's still my blueberry but Little Wing is cute too and i have a feeling the Tiberius and Liara's child is going to get used to hearing that name to, then again their first kid is getting named Lily BeneziaT'soni-Shepard so maybe the kid will call mommy that

Little Wing is cute, but It's just a thing I have where I can never call someone by the nickname their parents gave them. I don't want her to think of her parents when she's thinking of me. O.o

Yeah when i said that above i meant that they will be calling the kid that, not shepard calling liara sorry if my sentence structure was off and the meaning didn't get across, I'm kinda taking a half-ass look at the threads right now while i try and work on a little ME oneshot

My mistake.

I didn't get to meet Liara's mother in ME3. I must've done something wrong. Good thing I'm starting over.

 as long as you do conrad's mission in ME2 and LOTSB all you have to do is talk to Liara then Varla Bon about getting the SB wetwork team and then Aetheyta should show up as a bartender in the cafe Liara's at

[AndroLeonidas]

jlb524 wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Pretty sure Asari aren't actually sterile during the Maiden phase...just because they haven't got kids doesn't mean they can't. Unless I missed a Codex entry or something.

They are effectively sterile (in that phase).  They can meld and meld but never become pregnant.

Yuqi wrote...
Didn't Alli get to work of, of  Jen hale in the dialouge with the  new recording program, or something?

Yeah.

Yuqi wrote...

Renegade or Paragon romance with Liara? Which did you pick and why.

Do you mean, did you romance her with a Paragon or Renegade or did you pick Paragon lines vs. Renegade ones? 

See... I always thought it was a conscious decision on their part to initiate a meld for reproduction. I don't think it happens by itself. At least that is the impression I have gotten through the codex and listening to Asari in the three games. Does it actually state somehwere that they are sterile jlb? I know it says they can move into the Matron stage whenever they feel they are ready.

[Yuqi]

ladyvader wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Well, even though "Thanks for stopping by" is a cop out, think of it this way:

Liara's now the Shadow Broker. That's a lot of work/pressure for her. Shepard's the face of humanity trying to save every sentient being in the galaxy. WIth that sort of pressure on both of them, it'd be hard to find any real romantic moment, you know?

And that strained relationship makes their few scenes all the more powerful.

I agree.  

I do imagine that there are times they spend together that we don't see on screen but both don't really have the time to do it that often...too much is riding on both their shoulders.

I think it would be a bit ridiculous if every Shepard/Liara interaction shown in game was romantic.  I think in my first playthrough I was expecting that (unrealistically) so I was bummed that there was no romance in the time capsule scene...now it doesn't bother me.

I thought (with the exception of the freind issue) that the romance having some more cynical parts, made alot of sense. Didn't Alli get to work of, of  Jen hale in the dialouge with the  new recording program, or something?

by Deventh

It seems so from some of her tweets when she was recording for ME3. 

How awkward, I couldn't do that with a freind.

@Jib
I meant it as in ' Did you romance Liara with a Renegade or Paragon.'

Modifié par Yuqi, 26 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[Andronic0s]

somewherenoplace wrote...

Does anyone have a picture of the Liara with her hands at her hips and saying "...respects your privacy, not like me." She looks adorable there. It's right at the start of the romance cutscene

This one?

[moreeman06]

Logan Cloud wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Wow, that just went right over my head...
Well, I think I'll let Benezia call her that. Seems more like a parent thing than a lover thing.

She can be my Blueberry lmao.

She's still my blueberry but Little Wing is cute too and i have a feeling the Tiberius and Liara's child is going to get used to hearing that name to, then again their first kid is getting named Lily BeneziaT'soni-Shepard so maybe the kid will call mommy that

Little Wing is cute, but It's just a thing I have where I can never call someone by the nickname their parents gave them. I don't want her to think of her parents when she's thinking of me. O.o

Yeah when i said that above i meant that they will be calling the kid that, not shepard calling liara sorry if my sentence structure was off and the meaning didn't get across, I'm kinda taking a half-ass look at the threads right now while i try and work on a little ME oneshot

My mistake.

I didn't get to meet Liara's mother in ME3. I must've done something wrong. Good thing I'm starting over.

 as long as you do conrad's mission in ME2 and LOTSB all you have to do is talk to Liara then Varla Bon about getting the SB wetwork team and then Aetheyta should show up as a bartender in the cafe Liara's at

Do you have to romance her? I didn't on my first profile, but I did all the other things.

Ah nevermind. I'll figure it out. Thanks though. Someone post a picture of blue children again. Those make me wanna cry. :'D

"Life Lessons"  by: MagicalZebra
 There you go I'm writing my One shot based off of this one

[The Lightspeaker]

jlb524 wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Pretty sure Asari aren't actually sterile during the Maiden phase...just because they haven't got kids doesn't mean they can't. Unless I missed a Codex entry or something.

They are effectively sterile (in that phase).  They can meld and meld but never become pregnant.

Source? As I understood it (and as seems to be supported by the fan wiki) melding and asari reproduction are related but separate things. That is to say they cannot reproduce without melding, but melding does not automatically entail reproduction; it can also be used simply for transfer of memories and thoughts. Its very intimate, but its not automatically sexual; like a hug or a kiss or even something like a massage.

This is further supported by Liara's comment at the end in which she talks about Asari sometimes exchanging memories. Specifically she mentions "good friends or their bond-mates". They wouldn't undertake melding with mere "good friends" if it was entirely reproduction based. And theres no specification about life stages.


Edit: Got ninja'd on this as well:

AndroLeonidas wrote...

See... I always thought it was a
conscious decision on their part to initiate a meld for reproduction. I
don't think it happens by itself. At least that is the impression I have
gotten through the codex and listening to Asari in the three games.
Does it actually state somehwere that they are sterile jlb? I know it
says they can move into the Matron stage whenever they feel they are
ready.

I entirely agree. Thats how I read into it.

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 26 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[Sunnie]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Source?

This might be relevant...

[jlb524]

AndroLeonidas wrote...
See... I always thought it was a conscious decision on their part to initiate a meld for reproduction. I don't think it happens by itself. At least that is the impression I have gotten through the codex and listening to Asari in the three games. Does it actually state somehwere that they are sterile jlb? I know it says they can move into the Matron stage whenever they feel they are ready.

Yeah, it's a conscious decision.  I think Maiden's are physiologically unable to do it for some reason even if they want to.

This wasn't part of the ME1 Codex but in Drew's ME novel, Retribution it's stated that Maidens cannot reproduce.  I remember Liaramancer being disappointed when that novel came out b/c it made having little blue babies impossible with her (as long as she remains a Maiden).

They can always move into the next stage if they feel ready...I have no clue how one triggers that or what it entails.

Modifié par jlb524, 26 mars 2012 - 04:14 .

[adneate]

jlb524 wrote...
They are effectively sterile (in that phase).  They can meld and meld but never become pregnant.

Though the stages themselves are part biological and part sociological since they are still individuals and are capable of making a choice based on their own criteria if they feel ready for it. A maiden doesn't have children but they don't technically have to wait till 350 rolls around to be a Matron, since they are physically capable of reproduction.

They kinda muddle it but if you're going strictly by biological terms they are physically capable of having children once reaching sexual maturity it's just there's no particular desire on most individual's parts to have kids at what would be the human equal of 14 years old and it's kinda socially frowned upon as well. For obvious reasons.

[The Lightspeaker]

Sunnie22 wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Source?

This might be relevant...

Theres nothing in there stating that Asari are at any point sterile...


Edit: Anyway, I ought to go off to sleep. This thread and a couple flash games have kept me awake until quarter past five in the morning and I have to get up for work in three hours. <_<

Cya tomorrow fellow Liaraphilists!

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 26 mars 2012 - 04:16 .

[RG4ORDR]

I wonder what Liara would think if someone like scratched her hair tentacles.

[jlb524]

 Here's the passage from Retribution
Pg.  45
He (Grayson) knew the asari preferred to partner with those outside their own species; their unique biology allowed them to take genetic traits from alien partners and incorporate them into DNA of their offspring.  But Liselle was still young; it would be decades--or maybe even centuries--before she passed from the maiden stage of the asari life cycle into the childbearing years of matronhood.

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Modifié par jlb524, 26 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

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