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#426
Yezdigerd

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Nope, you are not alone, killing Shiala is the crowning moment of stupid evil in the renegade tree.
I actually laughed when I saw the outcome the first time.

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Mhgasa wrote...

was i the only one who thought that the renegade choice to kill her in the first game was kindda strange? Even for a renegade shep it made little sense to me. More like an execution just for the sake of it.


It was definitely a dick move on Shepard's part.  JMO.

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PhatSeeJay wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

NSFW Shiala art. 


Reeeal nice =]


Oh my...

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It's been way too long. There should be more support for this lady, but apparently there isn't. I'm not all that hopeful that there will be any serious method of incorporating Shiala into ME3's story, but I'll keep bumping the message.

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The method is easy. Even those who killed her in the first game could meet a thorian clone made by exo geni.

Thats actually even far more believable then shepardts mystical resurrection in Mass Effect 2...

And if she come back in any way, hopefully she will look as good as in the first game.

Modifié par tonnactus, 04 novembre 2011 - 08:30 .


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Yeah, BW could easily include her as a clone for those who haven't met her yet... and actually, even without that, I'm pretty sure Shiala is alive in more games than Kaidan (even including PS3 players). She should really be a squadmate...

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I prefer if Shiala’s appearance in ME3 be based upon the player’s decision to spare her during the first ME. If she is represented even if the player decided to kill her it would take away the importance of the player’s decision; what ought to have been a powerful moment would be rendered valueless.

From the seemingly importance the developers have placed upon the decisions Shepard has made so far, I am expecting those who spared Shiala will once again see her return for this final installment.

Modifié par DrSpoonbender, 16 novembre 2011 - 07:16 .


#433
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Sorry fellow Shiala fans. Based on the leaks so far (which are substantial), there is nothing on Shiala or the Consort. I put them together because they share the same awesome VA.

I hope it's not because gwendoline isn't doing VA work in ME3. She made Captain Wasea sound alot more special than other Asari villains (LOL to Tela Vasir)

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Honestly, Ticktank, I find the lack of Shiala being in any way substantial to the story an immense failure on Bioware's part (if it is indeed true). She had so much potential going forward and it really wasn't until I started thinking about possible ramifications of certain events that I thought about the threads Bioware had set up.

I'm holding out hope, but my hope is as dust on an open surface on a windy day.

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Developers have repeatedly stated the importance of players’ choices and how in ME3 they would finally feel the consequence of those decisions. Executing or sparing Shiala as part of the larger mission at Zhu’s Hope was set up to be meaningful it came at the close of the mission just after you’ve finally killed the Thorian (as part of the main story path). Its equivalent is deciding the fate of the Rachni queen after defeating Matriarch Benezia on Noveria.

Further to my point is through our actions (both in ME & ME2) the colony at Zhu’s Hope can either wither or prosper. I can hardly see this world the player has invested so much in and littered with Prothean technology being neglected (ergo Shiala one of Zhu’s Hope most prominnate citizens being neglected).

I admit if revelations concerning Zhu’s Hope were not part of the massive leak that is worrisome, but it is certainly not definitive. But again I don’t see the developers such fertile ground they have worked hard to develop.

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I personally think that we will see Shiala again in ME3 ... especially after running into her on Illium.

Bioware hinted that something was happening to her and the colonists and it would just seem odd that they left that bit to rot. Keeping fingers crossed.

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Don't put a lot of faith in those so-called "spoilers" just yet. At the very least, wait until the ACTUAL game comes out. I have a funny feeling Bioware may yet surprise us. As for Shiala, I will DEFINITELY support her for ME3! I absolutely LOVED her character!

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I didn't read the spoilers, but I'm pretty sure Shiala will be in ME3. Obviously not as a plot device since she could be dead. I doubt the script accounted for everything, especially things like side quests and returning NPCs.

I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to romance her too. We already know she has a thing for Shepard.

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Never really understood why people like Shiala so much.

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Homey C-Dawg

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Quole wrote...

Never really understood why people like Shiala so much.


Personal tastes.

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Xeranx

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Quole wrote...

Never really understood why people like Shiala so much.


Personal tastes.


In addition to (as I said earlier) the amount of potential she has regarding the Reaper conflict.  Liara doesn't have that.  In fact, none of the crew have as much plot integral potential as Shiala does.

If I were to put them in order:
1. Shiala (complete prothean knowledge like Shepard. Also overcame indoctrination and is still affected by Thorian)

2. Rana (studied indoctrination at Saren's behest.  Best to work on how Shiala is the way she is.  Might pull Mordin up from the "everybody else slot)

3. Tali/Legion (Geth were the main fighting force in ME who were strangely scarce in ME2, but the Quarian and Geth conflict can serve to undermine the Reapers...hmm I'm rethinking blowing up the Geth now)

4. Shepard (don't have to make a point on this)

5. Everyone else (all along for the ride unless Mordin's used to study Shiala with Rana)

Unfortunately numbers one and two weren't written for ME2 where it could have been utilized completely and to the point of satisfying finding a way to meet the conflict going forward into ME3.  They may introduce Shiala and issues regarding her condition, but it won't get the attention it deserves.  I guarantee you if this was a television show (that had a chance to develop at its own pace) Shiala would have become very integral to the whole story.

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Dark Star wrote...

I'm guessing something similar to what happened with the Asari Consort in ME. I'd love for her to play a bigger role (squadmate would be awesome) but considering she could be killed off easily in ME I very much doubt she will play a large role in ME3


Garrus gets killed quite easily in me2, so you never know :P

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I'd like to see something of Shiala in ME3. I liked her from off the bat, so I do hope she's in ME3 somewhere. And personally, I'd like her to stay green. (:

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SunGodAmaterasu wrote...

I'd like to see something of Shiala in ME3. I liked her from off the bat, so I do hope she's in ME3 somewhere. And personally, I'd like her to stay green. (:


Your avatar. It speaks to me.

#445
SunGodAmaterasu

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Ohei wrote...

Your avatar. It speaks to me.


Pelvic thrusting Legion speaks to many on different kinds of levels.

Modifié par SunGodAmaterasu, 18 novembre 2011 - 04:18 .


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Homey C-Dawg

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Xeranx wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Quole wrote...

Never really understood why people like Shiala so much.


Personal tastes.


In addition to (as I said earlier) the amount of potential she has regarding the Reaper conflict.  Liara doesn't have that.  In fact, none of the crew have as much plot integral potential as Shiala does.

If I were to put them in order:
1. Shiala (complete prothean knowledge like Shepard. Also overcame indoctrination and is still affected by Thorian)

2. Rana (studied indoctrination at Saren's behest.  Best to work on how Shiala is the way she is.  Might pull Mordin up from the "everybody else slot)

3. Tali/Legion (Geth were the main fighting force in ME who were strangely scarce in ME2, but the Quarian and Geth conflict can serve to undermine the Reapers...hmm I'm rethinking blowing up the Geth now)

4. Shepard (don't have to make a point on this)

5. Everyone else (all along for the ride unless Mordin's used to study Shiala with Rana)

Unfortunately numbers one and two weren't written for ME2 where it could have been utilized completely and to the point of satisfying finding a way to meet the conflict going forward into ME3.  They may introduce Shiala and issues regarding her condition, but it won't get the attention it deserves.  I guarantee you if this was a television show (that had a chance to develop at its own pace) Shiala would have become very integral to the whole story.


I hadn't considered the Shiala/Rana connection before, but your right. Both of these asari can be killed in ME1, yet both have more knowledge of indoctrination than just about anyone, epecially Shiala since as we've both stated she the only known character to ever recover from indoctrination.

Putting these two character together would be quite a treat.

#447
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WorpeX wrote...

My only real worry with her is that PS3 players can't access her which is a shame. :(


Same thing happened with Conrad Verner. Such a shame. :(

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Well just to clarify what I said earlier. The leaks are mostly lines of dialogue and data. There is a single placeholder line for Shiala and the consort, and nothing more.

I wouldn't put it past BW to have you be forced to kill Shiala, if you're already familiar with the consequences of your other paragon choices. Choices matter dur hur hur!

I'd be happy to just hear her speak. Love her exotic voice. Hers and Daro'Xen's.

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 Thanks to Angua33 @deviantart we have some awesome new Shiala fan art!:wub:

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Modifié par StarMarine, 19 novembre 2011 - 01:55 .


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Xeranx

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Nicely done.