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♂♂ • ♀♀ For The Love — The Same-Sex Romance Discussion Thread **may contain spoilers**


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Siansonea

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This OP is a work-in-progress, so bear with me (and feel free to make suggestions).


This thread's purpose is to discuss same-sex romance in Mass Effect 3. 


This thread's purpose is NOT to discuss real-world issues related to homosexuality, gender identity, politics, religion, etc. 


This thread doesn't exist for people to express that they are against the inclusion of same-sex romance either. It's been confirmed by BioWare, and if you want to petition them to take it out, do it somewhere else. 


A reminder: If you observe an instance of "trolling" or baiting, or other types of misbehavior, PM one of the moderators with a link to the offending post. I have every confidence that such things will be dealt with swiftly. NO OTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED, and please, above all, do not quote any offensive posts or respond to them.


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And to quote Chris Priestly:


Please remember:
All romances in Mass Effect 3 (as with parts 1 and 2) are optional. If you do not enjoy romance options in games, please stay out of discussions where fans of such romances can discuss them. Mass Effect 3 also has same sex relationships. If you do not enjoy or approve of same sex relationships, please stay out of discussion on these topics. While we respect each person's personal beliefs, we do not allow insults, ridicule or hatred against people on these forums based on religion, politics, race, age or sexual preference. People breaking the Site Rules will be dealt with accordingly.



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Please note that this thread may contain spoilers. ME1 and ME2 spoilers are a given, and don't need to be flagged, but please be courteous and flag any potential ME3 spoilers in your posts.


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And this is the tweet that started it all, Casey Hudson's May 15, 2011 confirmation of the inclusion of same-sex romance options in ME3:


Happy to confirm #ME3 supports wider options for love interests incl. same-sex for m&f chars, reactive to how you interact w/them in-game.

You can find a list with hotlinks of the rest of Casey Hudson's relevant links in this post:
http://social.biowar...5505/40#7647125


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Also, for the purposes of this thread, asari characters are female. If you somehow don't think asari are female, first get glasses, then open a biology book, then read the Codex, then take the discussion to another thread. Around here, asari are female. This thread is NOT a discussion of asari biology. 


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Modifié par Siansonea II, 16 juin 2011 - 04:45 .


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Maugrim

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Can I just say Woo Hoo! Still totally psyched about the inclusion of fully fledged s/s romances!

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I second the 'woo hoo' and thank the devs for adding them in!

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The Uncanny

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I'm also excited to see what the options for s/s romance will be and am delighted it has been confirmed for the game. ^_^

Thanks for posting a new thread, Sian!

Modifié par The Uncanny, 13 juin 2011 - 05:24 .


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You say the purpose of the thread is to discuss same-sex romances in ME3,yet we can't discuss it unless we are all for it. Please explain how is it discussing and not "OMG,I so want gay Kaidan" or something?

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Well sex for mating/offspring purposes went out in ME1 with human/alien sex anyway so same gender sex isn't much different. Might as well get Legion in there also, human/machine sex. Maybe a goat, I don't know. I don't think there is such a thing as a moral sexual compass in the ME world anyway so Role-playing wise it shouldn't be a problem in that particular universe.

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Siansonea

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Can I just say Woo Hoo! Still totally psyched about the inclusion of fully fledged s/s romances!


You sure can! :) And I second the sentiment. :wizard:

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

You say the purpose of the thread is to discuss same-sex romances in ME3,yet we can't discuss it unless we are all for it. Please explain how is it discussing and not "OMG,I so want gay Kaidan" or something?


I kindda have to agree with this. I don't really care though but you don't see people making a for the love-straight thread. Somewhat pointless IMO.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

You say the purpose of the thread is to discuss same-sex romances in ME3,yet we can't discuss it unless we are all for it. Please explain how is it discussing and not "OMG,I so want gay Kaidan" or something?


It's quite simple, really. This thread is to discuss the implementation of an option BioWare has already confirmed in the game. If you want to discuss something else, like character continuity, that belongs somewhere else.

People are allowed to want "gay Kaidan", as you say, and they're allowed to talk about it here. People are allowed to say they would prefer some other option. But discussion of character continuity is not the purpose of this thread, and should be discussed in another thread. That's not so hard to understand, is it?;)

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

You say the purpose of the thread is to discuss same-sex romances in ME3,yet we can't discuss it unless we are all for it. Please explain how is it discussing and not "OMG,I so want gay Kaidan" or something?

Discussing how it would work - how Kaidan would react. Who'd be...er...topping. Discuss if Kaidan is right for they're particular Shepard. B)  

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The Uncanny wrote...

I'm also excited to see what the options for s/s romance will be and am delighted it has been confirmed for the game. ^_^

Thanks for posting a new thread, Sian!


Happy to do it, dahling! :D

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Probably I'll not go all in for same-sex romances but I'm really curious to see how BioWare handle it.

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Siansonea II wrote...

This thread doesn't exist for people to express that they are against the inclusion of same-sex romance either. It's been confirmed by BioWare, and if you want to petition them to take it out, do it somewhere else. 


For suggestions, you may want to add this CP post to the OP and this tweet by CH.

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LeBurns wrote...

Well sex for mating/offspring purposes went out in ME1 with human/alien sex anyway so same gender sex isn't much different. Might as well get Legion in there also, human/machine sex. Maybe a goat, I don't know. I don't think there is such a thing as a moral sexual compass in the ME world anyway so Role-playing wise it shouldn't be a problem in that particular universe.


you forgot joker and EDI -.-

to be honest though, im gunna make a save file just to see how the s/s romances play out. hopefully the romance story would be deeper then:
miranda: "i was built to be perfect"
fem-shep: "i was rebuilt to be the same because im already perfect"
*insert blurry images here*

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well my vote is for Posted Imagegay ashleyPosted Image as you can see from below

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Rinji the Bearded

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GAYS IN SPACE!

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Siansonea, I suggest putting polls in the OP for the different methods/possibilities to implement the S/S romances.

Also, putting that we don't like calibrations and forced romances either, since that's often brought up.

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PlumPaul82393 wrote...
I don't really care though but you don't see people making a for the love-straight thread. Somewhat pointless IMO.


You can, if you wish.

I think the difference is that there's a lot of speculation surrounding s/s romances (like, who will be available, how they will do it) while it can be assumed that every available LI will be an option for an o/s romance....it's actually a guaruntee since they don't limit LIs to s/s only romance.

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SS Romance was and still is a great addition to the BioWare storytelling experience.
I offer my support and thanks to the people who are making this possible. ;) 

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

You say the purpose of the thread is to discuss same-sex romances in ME3,yet we can't discuss it unless we are all for it. Please explain how is it discussing and not "OMG,I so want gay Kaidan" or something?

Discussing how it would work - how Kaidan would react. Who'd be...er...topping. Discuss if Kaidan is right for they're particular Shepard. B)  


i dont want my ******-male-shep to be the b!otch >:o lmfao jkjk XD

i wounder if BW would go that deep to specify who's the more dominante one in the s/s relationship?
or even if they would let existing romances have a choice for who wears the pants?

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I'm not going to be a primary consumer of m/m romances but I'll probably be doing a m/m run through eventually. The idea of a Jokermance has seemed quite appealing lately, even voted for him in a poll but Kaidan was winning that as always. So I guess I'm rooting for Kaidan as m/m LI for my friends and Joker for myself!

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Glad you guys and gals have your thread back, it's always a welcome addition to the BSN. Keep fighting for the love :)

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Jokermance. Please bi Joker.

Or a new guy. Hopefully Big Ben.

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I'm very excited that the Mass Effect team decided to take this direction and I can't wait to see how it will be implemented.

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Siansonea II wrote...

It's quite simple, really. This thread is to discuss the implementation of an option BioWare has already confirmed in the game. If you want to discuss something else, like character continuity, that belongs somewhere else.

People are allowed to want "gay Kaidan", as you say, and they're allowed to talk about it here. People are allowed to say they would prefer some other option. But discussion of character continuity is not the purpose of this thread, and should be discussed in another thread. That's not so hard to understand, is it?;)

I thank you for your calm answer and when you put it that way,you do have a point. You have my word that I won't express my opinion on S/S (and I think you know what it is,anyway) in THIS thread anytime in future.

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 13 juin 2011 - 05:37 .