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MageTarot

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Forevergray wrote...

At least Kaidan got to hold him again... :*(***



...and will continue to do so, dammit!  Image IPB


I absolutely refuse to admit that the writers could be so cold and heartless to finally bring M!Shep and Kaidan together after all this time only to tear them apart -- especially after lines like "When this is over, I'm gonna be waiting for you. You better show up!"  and yes, "I'm gonna fight like hell for the chance to hold you again." Image IPB


No f*****g way.

Modifié par MageTarot, 04 avril 2012 - 02:28 .


#25227
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Daashi wrote...

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An LI  (or even Garrus / favorite squadmate) saving Shepard from an explosion on the Citadel would have been such an epic moment.  Truly a missed opportunity.  What happened, BioWare?


I'm going for the chiche "it was the rEApers fault".


You know Daashi, nowadays I strongly get this idea. Not in what everybody thinks(EA rushing the games etc.) tho'.  If you remember Prince's or George Michael's incidents in the past, I see current situation like that. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I am right. No matter what we can never truly know it.

@Criz and Andreas, those two are lovely pictures. You make lazy artists like me ashamed. Image IPB

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I'm a lazy artist, too, otherwise I'd draw grand pieces, practise human proportion, add backgrounds for a change ... you know ... actually draw a complete picture and not just chibis floating on white ...
alas for as long as I enjoy drawing them and others enjoy looking at them I shall continue

there'd be no harm in practising other things and expanding though, I guess ... <_<

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Criz-Zone wrote...

let me add my two cents to the sad post-ending mShep/Kaidan theme of this page

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I absolutely love your work, this is amazing and actually mad me feel really sad Image IPB

@ Andreas, a stunning piece of work too, fantastic!

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Criz-Zone wrote...

I'm a lazy artist, too, otherwise I'd draw grand pieces, practise human proportion, add backgrounds for a change ... you know ... actually draw a complete picture and not just chibis floating on white ...
alas for as long as I enjoy drawing them and others enjoy looking at them I shall continue

there'd be no harm in practising other things and expanding though, I guess ... <_<


No way! Your chibis are awesome. Yeah, as artist we tend to be our most cruel critiquesImage IPB. However for me drawing chibis is hardest thing there is.

You need to make them cute also they need to pass feelings. While most chibis feels like copy paste drawings, you have fairly unique style. As I grown up drawing (or trying to draw in better wording) comic book heroes, for me style > grand pieces. Style what makes your works shine no matter what you draw. Image IPB

While talking about drawing, my imagination's working over time nowadays and head flood with ideas. Better get back to drawing board and start taking notes (I take note of my ideas as drawingsImage IPB).

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Criz-Zone wrote...

I'm a lazy artist, too, otherwise I'd draw grand pieces, practise human proportion, add backgrounds for a change ... you know ... actually draw a complete picture and not just chibis floating on white ...
alas for as long as I enjoy drawing them and others enjoy looking at them I shall continue

there'd be no harm in practising other things and expanding though, I guess ... <_<


Saw the Kaidan one you posted and there is nothing lazy about that at all!  It was beautifully done, and very heartbreaking (so I guess "damn you!" for that, id prefer to finish my coffee before my heart is broken :P )

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I just finished a modded playthrough with Tali as imported LI (since I don't have the stomach to romance her for real in ME2) then I committed to Steve and she acknoleged it!!

Gonna try with Kaidan, even though he didn't recognise my old (modded) romance with Liara last time, and said the "you were so focus on work back then..." line and Steve's line changed to the "you haven't been involved with anyone yet" instead of the "...you haven't bitten yet" one.

Anyone had their ME1 romance (Ash or Liara) recognised by Kaidan in the sex/romance scene?

Modifié par bas_kon, 04 avril 2012 - 01:34 .


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bas_kon wrote...

I just finished a modded playthrough with Tali as imported LI (since I don't have the stomach to romance her for real in ME2) then I committed to Steve and she acknoleged it!!

Gonna try with Kaidan, even though he didn't recognise my old (modded) romance with Liara last time, and said the "you were so focus on work back then..." line and Steve's line changed to the "you haven't been involved with anyone yet" instead of the "...you haven't bitten yet" one.

Anyone had their ME1 romance (Ash or Liara) recognised by Kaidan in the sex/romance scene?


No, and I thought that was a little strange too.  I can understand him not knowing about Miranda, but he was there for the near Ashley/Liara catfight, and my eventual Liara relationship.

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bas_kon wrote...

Anyone had their ME1 romance (Ash or Liara) recognised by Kaidan in the sex/romance scene?

I know that even though my Shep was with Liara for 3 games, and even after Shep says to Liara in ME3 that he wants to be with her, Kaidan still hits on that Shep. Which cheapened (correct spelling?) the relationship for me. I reloaded, fixed that, i.e. continued Shep with Liara relationship before talking to anyone in act2 and continued the game.
Now, I'm on DA2. Enough ME3 for me. M.

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@Forevergray: I know right? At least he should have mentioned Liara (since she's also a femshep's option and wouldn't be such a waste of resources).

@Frozen83: You mean even if you commit to Liara before getting the VS, it's not flagged as true love until the post coup Citadel conversation? I thought that would lock all the other romances.

I think I'm gonna play DA2 as well, after trying "Shepard leaves Tali for Kaidan" playthrough, too bad there's no new DLC anymore. Loved the Mark of the Assasin. :P

Modifié par bas_kon, 04 avril 2012 - 02:18 .


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You get LI talk on Mars with her, she sits on your lap on the Normandy at one point and says "Flatterer" and kisses you. But, it seems like everything is open after the coup (like someone hit reset button). Steve and Kaidan have the same dialogues with you as with "forever alone" import. M.

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bas_kon wrote...

@Forevergray: I know right? At least he should have mentioned Liara (since she's also a femshep's option and wouldn't be such a waste of resources).

@Frozen83: You mean even if you commit to Liara before getting the VS, it's not flagged as true love until the post coup Citadel conversation? I thought that would lock all the other romances.

I think I'm gonna play DA2 as well, after trying "Shepard leaves Tali for Kaidan" playthrough, too bad there's no new DLC anymore. Loved the Mark of the Assasin. :P


If I am not mistaken you can start romance with Liara on ME1. ME2 just confirming her romance. As you alrdeay did your choice between two on ME1 that will leave Thane, Jacob and Garrus options for Kaidan to acknowledge (I guess he says somethings about Jacob to female Shep but never played Kaidan romance with a femShep). For Male Shepards writers assumed Kaidan didn't care who Shep banged during ME2 I guess.

Also as far as I know, both VS doesn't recognize Kelly as romance, just like game imports.

Ashley on the other hand mentions Miranda (Miranda Lawson?) and Jack, even renegade sex with her (convict with shaved head). Didn't do any Ash/Tali run so far but I am planning to after finishing Matt's ME1 to ME3 run.


All squadie romances are confirmed/locked during Citadel dates as far as I know. So you can't blame Kaidan for trying. Image IPB This is why avoid everyone on Cİtadel and talk to Kaidan first. It is cruel to give people false hopes.

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Hi guys, I just wanted to pop in and mention that there are letters being collected to send to Bioware at PAX concerning the romances. If anyone wants to write a letter talking about their disappointments, wish-there-woulda-beens, what they loved, what they didn't love so much, whatever, concerning the romances in ME3 here's the thread to go to find out more info.

http://social.biowar.../index/10853184

This is a huge thread so I'm not sure if someone has mentioned it in here yet but I just wanted to make sure people know about it so they don't miss the opportunity to send a letter if they wish!

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Posted on the Kaidan forum as well:

Thanks to neehs on deviantart.com for this...and yes, I'm fully expecting Shepard to open his eyes any minute now...


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MageTarot wrote...

Posted on the Kaidan forum as well:

Thanks to neehs on deviantart.com for this...and yes, I'm fully expecting Shepard to open his eyes any minute now...


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Totally love this ... totally, totally ... exactly how I wanted the final fight to end (but with the eyes opening, too!).  :wub:

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sydzilla wrote...

Hi guys, I just wanted to pop in and mention that there are letters being collected to send to Bioware at PAX concerning the romances. If anyone wants to write a letter talking about their disappointments, wish-there-woulda-beens, what they loved, what they didn't love so much, whatever, concerning the romances in ME3 here's the thread to go to find out more info.

http://social.biowar.../index/10853184

This is a huge thread so I'm not sure if someone has mentioned it in here yet but I just wanted to make sure people know about it so they don't miss the opportunity to send a letter if they wish!


Thanks for this ... I did note that Kaidan had no letters written for him in support on that thread, so was worried.  Appreciate the head's up, I'll dash something off.

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Bellendaine wrote...

sydzilla wrote...

Hi guys, I just wanted to pop in and mention that there are letters being collected to send to Bioware at PAX concerning the romances. If anyone wants to write a letter talking about their disappointments, wish-there-woulda-beens, what they loved, what they didn't love so much, whatever, concerning the romances in ME3 here's the thread to go to find out more info.

http://social.biowar.../index/10853184

This is a huge thread so I'm not sure if someone has mentioned it in here yet but I just wanted to make sure people know about it so they don't miss the opportunity to send a letter if they wish!


Thanks for this ... I did note that Kaidan had no letters written for him in support on that thread, so was worried.  Appreciate the head's up, I'll dash something off.



Thank you for the reminder! I sent off a letter thanking BioWare for allowing M!Sheps to romance Kaidan and complimenting them for the cinematic 'feel' of the romance arc, basically saying that if the Mass Effect games were like movies in a trilogy, the love scene between Shepard and Kaidan would qualify as the trilogy's emotional payoff. I also told them that it broke my heart that their relationship was cut short by the ending, especially when we were given lines like 'When this is over I'm gonna be waiting for you. You better be there." and "I'm gonna fight like hell for the chance to hold you again."  I then let them know that I hope that would still happen.


I'm waiting for a confirmation message from the thread's OP to make sure my message is within his guidelines. I'll keep you posted.

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MageTarot wrote...

Posted on the Kaidan forum as well:

Thanks to neehs on deviantart.com for this...and yes, I'm fully expecting Shepard to open his eyes any minute now...


Image IPB


I really need to thank that artist. I've this person's work around with male and female shepards with the various LIs, and thought that they merely took the character models out of the game (an amazing achievement even if it was that), but this, they retored Kaidan's pan-Asian features! Thank god! Could someone give me the link to the artist, I want to thank them.

Modifié par Daashi, 05 avril 2012 - 07:05 .


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His all pictures looks great.

neehs.deviantart.com/

Here is the linky for you.

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Asperius wrote...

His all pictures looks great.

neehs.deviantart.com/

Here is the linky for you.


Thanks mate.

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I was reading IGN ME3 romance guide and stuck on this:

"Kaidan DOES make a pass at Male Shepard in the Presidium Commons after Priority: Citadel 1, with no prior relationship from Mass Effect 1 or 2. This, however, does not indicate or lead to a relationship by itself; "

Ain't he unconscious during your first Citadel visit? Which pass they are mentioning? As they are mentioning Whiskey later in article I doubt it is "Are you flirting with me Commander?" line from Kaidan. Maybe I should drag unconscious Kaidan to Commons from Hospital to make a pass at me.

uk.ign.com/wikis/mass-effect-3/Romance

Here is a link if you want to read whole article.

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Asperius wrote...

I was reading IGN ME3 romance guide and stuck on this:

"Kaidan DOES make a pass at Male Shepard in the Presidium Commons after Priority: Citadel 1, with no prior relationship from Mass Effect 1 or 2. This, however, does not indicate or lead to a relationship by itself; "

Ain't he unconscious during your first Citadel visit? Which pass they are mentioning? As they are mentioning Whiskey later in article I doubt it is "Are you flirting with me Commander?" line from Kaidan. Maybe I should drag unconscious Kaidan to Commons from Hospital to make a pass at me.

uk.ign.com/wikis/mass-effect-3/Romance

Here is a link if you want to read whole article.


They almost certainly mean Priority: Citadel II. 

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Sounds like nonsense. The only time he's in the Presidium is for the date.

ElitePinecone wrote...

They almost certainly mean Priority: Citadel II.

But it does lead to a relationship. It's actually the one thing leading to his romance.

So I still have no idea what they're saying?

Modifié par devSin, 05 avril 2012 - 09:51 .


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devSin wrote...

Sounds like nonsense. The only time he's in the Presidium is for the date.

ElitePinecone wrote...

They almost certainly mean Priority: Citadel II.

But it does lead to a relationship. It's actually the one thing leading to his romance.

So I still have no idea what they're saying?


Citadel scene/Date is romance lockdown/confirmation stage. Whiskey is the first step leading to his romance.

Only thing I can think like pass is during Mars/Last Cerberus conversation ending. "You were always stubborn" line comes off a bit flirty (tho' flagged or ME1 romanced m/m one utterly hilarious).

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I was playing the game hoping to gaymance Kaidan, and was afraid i might have killed it early by forgetting to buy his bottle of booze (Chakwas would have stolen it, anyway). Then i got the romance music then i melted at how cute mshep and Kai were *melts again*