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Vapaa

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dewayne31 wrote...

anyone else hope they ash for femshep in the extended cut.....i know it highly unlikely


Speaking of Femshep/Ashley, I wonder why in  the few lines that were recorded one is gender specific.....on Mars ? :huh: (at that point romance lines are only for those who romanced her in ME1)

Modifié par Vapaä, 12 avril 2012 - 07:51 .


#25327
evisneffo

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Daashi wrote...

The last I heard no-one is being hired to do VAs, so my answer would be no. However I have been told the VA is one of the last things they do, so VAs might be hired in the comming months.


There was a Tweet somewhere (if you trust the Twitter information at all) about how that was being "taken care of" or something to that effect. I'd think it would be extremely difficult to do much extending without any new VA at all. That said, it's quite possible they won't be able to or just won't pull the entire crew back in, so on the basis of that I'd say something on the scale of Ash/female Shepard is unlikely. :unsure:

Modifié par evisneffo, 12 avril 2012 - 08:56 .


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dewayne31 wrote...

anyone else hope they ash for femshep in the extended cut.....i know it highly unlikely


Yes, highly unlikely. I think Extended cut will deal with endings only, no extra content.

@Dashii
I doubt it's reliability but I remember seeing a post here on BSN about Meer doing some VA for extended cut.

#25329
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Why do people wish to turn Ashley bi?

I understand that a bi-sexual romance was cut from the first game, but Ashley's character never have any indication that she was bi at all. If anything her being bi-sexual comes across as something out of character.

It makes sense why they made Kaidan bi - if male shepard wanted a gay romance, there wouldn't be one squad member that shepard could share that with, hence why kaidan was made bi.

Fem shep has Liara, and while it isn't really a lesbian relationship as Asari are mono-gendered, it essentially serves the same purpose as a same-sex romance.

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Vigil_N7 wrote...

Why do people wish to turn Ashley bi? 


Because people wants Ashley

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Daashi wrote...

What can I say, in my mind BW went from a company that made games I must own, to a company I must buy at a later date (used), it pretty sad, considering BW was the only ones making games that I really want to play.


Agreed ...

#25332
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I wanted bi Ashley :[ It would've given me at least one occasion where I'd actually save her on Virmire... on purpose...

I understand it might seem out of character for her though. But a female human bi LI from the first game would've been awesome.

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Vigil_N7 wrote...

Why do people wish to turn Ashley bi?

I understand that a bi-sexual romance was cut from the first game, but Ashley's character never have any indication that she was bi at all. If anything her being bi-sexual comes across as something out of character.

It makes sense why they made Kaidan bi - if male shepard wanted a gay romance, there wouldn't be one squad member that shepard could share that with, hence why kaidan was made bi.

Fem shep has Liara, and while it isn't really a lesbian relationship as Asari are mono-gendered, it essentially serves the same purpose as a same-sex romance.


Ashley is attractive, and if you pursued all the dialogue with her in the first game, some of the lines are said with an inflection that is somewhat indicative of a possible deeper interest. They are close friends, and it's not entirely inconceivable that over the course of time it could progress into more.

It doesn't make any more sense to make Kaidan bi than Ash - not really sure where you are coming up with that from.

As far as Liara goes - it's a lesbian relationship no matter how you want to spin the 'mono-gendered' thing. I think to many people mistake the word mono (meaning single) for non (meaning no gender). The asari's single gender is female. If you don't think so, you might need glasses.

In the end, I would have liked to romance Ash since they have such a long history together, but BW did overload us with f/f options as it is so I understand why it was left out.

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ok i think the clarify my statement. at one time i was all for ash being bi. but now i'm not real sure if i do. but i would them to turn bi so the gripping on other forums i visit will go away. plus few friends want her. i should said that in my original statement

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dewayne31 wrote...

ok i think the clarify my statement. at one time i was all for ash being bi. but now i'm not real sure if i do. but i would them to turn bi so the gripping on other forums i visit will go away. plus few friends want her. i should said that in my original statement


That wouldn't stop the complaining, just change the nature of the complaints.

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Having played a modded Ashley SS romance it works very well that way. There are 1-3 lines of gender specific dialog that would need to be rewritten and the total amount of dialog is fairly small. On the other hand, I doubt they will consider it high enough priority to add expanded LI options.

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I have been playing the game so I have been gone a while. As for Ashley being "bi" (well NOT being "bi") it should not bother anyone if she were if they did it like Kaidan. He only flirts with Shepard if Shepard flirts first so "straight" Shepard can still have his "bro." Hopefully the "straight" player does not complain about other players romancing him s/s style. Do not have her turn into Isabela but still be an option for the players that want her s/s. If your Shepard is male you would never see s/s Ashley and if Shepard is female Ashley would only respond to female Shepard's advances.

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Lol, I just finished my last Kaidanmancer Shepard romance scene. I like them together so much, I'll share some pictures with you guys.

This is Shepard:

Image IPB

These are some of the romance scene pics:

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/sinttulo17.png/

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/sinttulo16t.png/

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/sinttulo19o.png/

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/135/sinttulo10mt.png/

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Vigil_N7 wrote...

Why do people wish to turn Ashley bi?

I understand that a bi-sexual romance was cut from the first game, but Ashley's character never have any indication that she was bi at all. If anything her being bi-sexual comes across as something out of character.  


But what does it mean to have a bi-sexual characterization?  Does it mean having a prior relationship with a man/woman and then talking about it?  How do you come across as bi?  If that were a criteria, why wasn't Jack available in ME2?  She was openly involved in a relationship with a man and a woman.  She said the words, "boyfriend or girlfriend," yet no romance.  

Couldn't it be simply a game mechanic and that ultimately, what comes down to choosing who is bisexual/gay/lesbian  is mostly an arbitrary game mechanic that until recently, favored (actually still favors) heterosexual romances?  Yes, I'm thinking this is the case.

Modifié par Village Idiot, 13 avril 2012 - 12:25 .


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bas_kon wrote...

Lol, I just finished my last Kaidanmancer Shepard romance scene. I like them together so much, I'll share some pictures with you guys.

This is Shepard:

Image IPB

These are some of the romance scene pics:

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/sinttulo17.png/

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/sinttulo16t.png/

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/sinttulo19o.png/

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/135/sinttulo10mt.png/

Cool.  How did you use Sheploo's texture on a custom face?  Got a link?
Is that James Vega's hair?

#25341
evisneffo

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*cough* Speaking of Ashley/female Shepard ... I made this as a joke in response to a discussion elsewhere but thought it might be appropriate here :whistle:

Image IPB

Might need to trim down on the text though.

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Arik7 wrote...
Cool.  How did you use Sheploo's texture on a custom face?  Got a link?
Is that James Vega's hair?

I used gibbed editor (this tutorial is for f!shep but you can do it with Sheploo's textures as well):
social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-Character-and-Romance-Discussion/Gibbed-ME3-Femshep-Face-Editing-9996307-1.html

Sheploo's textures are the same as in me2:
HED_Diff:
BIOG_HMM_HED_PROMorph.Sheppard.HMM_HED_PROSheppard_Face_Diff_Stack
HED_Norm:
BIOG_HMM_HED_PROMorph.Sheppard.HMM_HED_PROSheppard_Face_Norm_Stack
HED_Scalp_Diff:
BIOG_HMM_HED_PROMorph.Sheppard.HMM_HED_PROSheppard_Scalp_Diff_Stack
HED_Scalp_Norm:
BIOG_HMM_HED_PROMorph.Sheppard.HMM_HED_PROSheppard_Scalp_Norm_Stack

The only problem I had so far, is half of Shepard's right ear being black, though. I just roleplay this being a comunicator of some sort until there's a fix for it.:D
And yes, it's James hair:
Hair Mesh:
BIOG_HMM_HIR_PRO_R.Hair_James.HMM_HIR_PROJames_MDL
Hair Texture:
BIOG_HMM_HIR_PRO_R.Hair_James.HMM_HIR_James_Diff

Although I got it working without using the hair texture. The result is not perfect, but at least he looks different from all the other Shepards I had. ^_^

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Sorry I stopped posting those emails. I haven't played the main story in a while. Still enjoying MP a bunch, and the new stuff isn't helping with that. xD I've also started writing my own headcanon version of the epilogue to set my mind at ease.

Edit: Also you can use the Vega style fauxhawk without modding anything I thought? I'm positive I've seen it in the options, and Bas your guy feels like he'd fit into Gears of War nicely with that face. xD

Modifié par Akrim_Drak, 13 avril 2012 - 11:49 .


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@Akrim: The mohawk in the CC is not the same, James' is thicker. Also I loved those emails, are there any new romance related?
Regarding my Shep: lol, I know, it was on purpose. I was on my 10th playthrough (and only actually finished 2 of them:P) and grew tired of those weird-looking custom m!Sheps and pretty boy Sheploo, so I did something in between with a rugged yet atractive (at least to me) Shep for the last one. :D

Modifié par bas_kon, 14 avril 2012 - 02:49 .


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bas_kon wrote...

@Akrim: The mohawk in the CC is not the same, James' is thicker. Also I loved those emails, are there any new romance related?
Regarding my Shep: lol, I know, it was on purpose. I was on my 10th playthrough (and only actually finished 2 of them:P) and grew tired of those weird-looking custom m!Sheps and pretty boy Sheploo, so I did something in between with a rugged yet atractive (at least to me) Shep for the last one. :D




I see.

Le siiiigh. I'll -try- and drudge through the rest of the game to get the rest of Steve's love messages and Liara's harrassments(swear that woman never gives up, if I find out that "memory sharing" at the end of the game was her raping me, I'm putting a bullet in her damn head.):unsure:

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Akrim_Drak wrote...

bas_kon wrote...

@Akrim: The mohawk in the CC is not the same, James' is thicker. Also I loved those emails, are there any new romance related?
Regarding my Shep: lol, I know, it was on purpose. I was on my 10th playthrough (and only actually finished 2 of them:P) and grew tired of those weird-looking custom m!Sheps and pretty boy Sheploo, so I did something in between with a rugged yet atractive (at least to me) Shep for the last one. :D




I see.

Le siiiigh. I'll -try- and drudge through the rest of the game to get the rest of Steve's love messages and Liara's harrassments(swear that woman never gives up, if I find out that "memory sharing" at the end of the game was her raping me, I'm putting a bullet in her damn head.):unsure:


Hey, just stopping by to let you know that in case you don't want to play through the whole game but want to see the messages, there is a wiki page that has all of them now:

http://masseffect.wi...Effect:_Datapad)

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katerinafm wrote...

Hey, just stopping by to let you know that in case you don't want to
play through the whole game but want to see the messages, there is a
wiki page that has all of them now:

http://masseffect.wi...Effect:_Datapad)

Thanks for the link katerina.;)

Akrim_Drak wrote...

I see.



Le siiiigh. I'll -try- and drudge through the rest of the
game to get the rest of Steve's love messages and Liara's
harrassments(swear that woman never gives up, if I find out that "memory
sharing" at the end of the game was her raping me, I'm putting a bullet
in her damn head.)[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png[/smilie]




Lol, I'm afraid Shepard's not gonna be able to, she's imortal even if she dies, she keeps resurrecting on Jurassic Park and haunting all non-VS-mancer Shepards' minds in their last moments.:lol:
I'm grateful you would play again to show us the messages. You don't have to if you're not ready yet though, since katerina shared a link with them (I'll check it out right now). Thanks a lot  anyways.

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bas_kon wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

Hey, just stopping by to let you know that in case you don't want to
play through the whole game but want to see the messages, there is a
wiki page that has all of them now:

http://masseffect.wi...Effect:_Datapad)

Thanks for the link katerina.;)


No problem! Just thought I'd share just in case :)

(Did anyone see how many messages Garrus gets? Double than everyone else XD. Everybody loves Garrus hahah.) The last VS message has me very hopeful :D

#25349
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haha, that text from Wrex "I know what you did" is just scary.

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"Thresher maws have gotten much bigger. Too big to ride now. A shame." If that was an actual line from Javik and he had more like that in game, it would have made the extra $10 on top of the $110 I had to spend on ME3 a little easier to swallow.