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#25401
Bellendaine

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MACharlie1 wrote...

If you imported, then you'll get different dialog then if you started a fresh game. Imported games won't get the handsome dialog. They'lll still get romanced but no handsome comment. 


Which I personally think sucks and makes no sense, but ...

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Gilthanis wrote...

I didn't even know about this (but I'm not on the Character discussion boards all that often). How much longer do we have to add to the letter?

This week.

If you enjoyed Kaidan's character in ME3, I absolutely recommend contributing a personal message of thanks.

IsaacShep wrote...

Just a reminder girls and guys please plase contribute to our Letter to Cathleen project:docs.google.com/document/d/1VojVd5Er_jlP5AulZru0xW0_H9T1ZtJ2BDGe3zA9BCI/edit :):):) We would like to send it the upcoming week but not without like at least 10-15 contributions so please :wub: For Kaidan! :o


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Gilthanis wrote...

I didn't even know about this (but I'm not on the Character discussion boards all that often).  How much longer do we have to add to the letter?  

Make it about as long as other comments. The letter has general part and then personal comments from fans, what they liked exactly about Cathleen's work on Kaidan in ME3 etc. We're also sneaking in mentions that we would love to see a personal mission for Kaidan in some future DLC, don't forget about that ;)

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MACharlie1 wrote...

BENIIICHAT wrote...

devSin wrote...

Yes, if you don't have an active romance, then the dinner with Kaidan will be a date (and you can choose to initiate a romance with him).

If you are already in a romance (ME3 doesn't let you pursue multiple romances), then the dinner will just be a friendship conversation.



Oh! I am wrong about My Question.

what I want to say is, I can romance with him all of My playthrough. but, I only see Kaidan explain detail about SomeOne (Handsome ,TallOrder etc,) when I come to him after I refuse Cortez .


I want to find Dinner Dialogue to show. but I can't find it. :crying:   

If you imported, then you'll get different dialog then if you started a fresh game. Imported games won't get the handsome dialog. They'lll still get romanced but no handsome comment. 


Really !! Oh I got this handsome comment with New Shepard like You Said. Thank for the Answer.

...Now I wonder Why ???

#25405
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IsaacShep wrote...

Make it about as long as other comments. The letter has general part and then personal comments from fans, what they liked exactly about Cathleen's work on Kaidan in ME3 etc. We're also sneaking in mentions that we would love to see a personal mission for Kaidan in some future DLC, don't forget about that ;)

And for those who don't want to leave comments on Google Docs, you can send a PM to dstrawberrygirl here on the forums with any feedback on the letter and/or the personal comment you want to include.

Just do it before the end of the week.

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Today is the last day for submissions to the community letter of appreciation to Cathleen, folks.

If anybody here wants to support Kaidan but hasn't yet done so, this is the day to do it.

IsaacShep wrote...

Letter to Cathleen project update! :D

We now have 12 messages, very close to our minimal goal of 15 fan messages. Please contribute! :Ddocs.google.com/document/d/1VojVd5Er_jlP5AulZru0xW0_H9T1ZtJ2BDGe3zA9BCI/edit The deadline is this Friday, May 4th dstrawberrygirl-time (whatever it is she when she decides to lock it down ;)


Modifié par devSin, 04 mai 2012 - 05:40 .


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http://rikona.devian...llery/#/d4yd60i - Some femslash featuring a pairing I'd liked to have seen in-game (she's probably one of the most awesome characters in the ME trilogy)

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Demonique

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From http://barbalarga.tu...ld-be-just-fine

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I finally imported my MaleShep/Kaidan romance from ME1 into ME3. Completing everything in ME1 and ME2 took one and a half months!

I'm finally noticing what FemSheps get with an already-established relationship with Kaidan that I never got, and I like it! The initial meeting on the Citadel with Anderson is so much better. It's awkward, and it seems that both Shepard and Kaidan have so much to say to each other but can't! And the banter on Mars is slightly different too. Kaidan acknowledges the past love with MaleShep ("is the person I followed to hell and back -- the person I loved -- still in there?") so it's really awesommmee.

So far everything is going smoothly. I only ran into one line of dialogue that Mark Meer didn't voice, and it's when you see Kaidan for the first time in the hospital and Shep says, "Kaidan? Oh god, it's hard seeing you like this." After that it's like normal.

The only annoying thing about the first hospital visit is that the romance theme that plays in the background ("I Was Lost Without You") begins TWICE in the cutscene so it overlapped itself. It was really jarring. I had to replay the scene without any music so I wouldn't feel distracted.

Otherwise, it feels awesome to play ME3 knowing that Kaidan and I had a relationship since ME1. :]

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Hello, I've started a petition for m/m Garrus DLC (figured that since there's a petition for Vega romance DLC it wouldn't hurt)

http://social.biowar.../index/11918131

Link to poll - http://social.biowar...61/polls/33449/

Modifié par Demonique, 07 mai 2012 - 04:49 .


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http://blog.bioware....-mass-effect-3/ - ME writers discuss the same-sex relationships found in Mass Effect

Modifié par Demonique, 07 mai 2012 - 07:00 .


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So I am sure someones already posted this... but will they fix it so via DLA to have m/m relationship in ME1 and ME2? Since its in there hidden? Can they now add it now that it is in ME2?

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Demonique wrote...

http://blog.bioware....-mass-effect-3/ - ME writers discuss the same-sex relationships found in Mass Effect

The only glaring thing I noticed is that they didn't mention Kaidan at all. Other than that, I'm glad they tried to be more "realistic" with Traynor's romance. I never got the impression that she was a cliché lesbian.

PhoenixAeon wrote...

So I am sure someones already posted this... but will they fix it so via DLA to have m/m relationship in ME1 and ME2? Since its in there hidden? Can they now add it now that it is in ME2?

I'm very doubtful about this, since those games came out years ago.

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goodventure wrote...

Demonique wrote...

http://blog.bioware....-mass-effect-3/ - ME writers discuss the same-sex relationships found in Mass Effect

The only glaring thing I noticed is that they didn't mention Kaidan at all. Other than that, I'm glad they tried to be more "realistic" with Traynor's romance. I never got the impression that she was a cliché lesbian.

PhoenixAeon wrote...

So I am sure someones already posted this... but will they fix it so via DLA to have m/m relationship in ME1 and ME2? Since its in there hidden? Can they now add it now that it is in ME2?

I'm very doubtful about this, since those games came out years ago.




Probably because neither Patrick or Dusty wrote for Kaidan. I can't remember who did.... :blush:

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goodventure

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MACharlie1 wrote...

goodventure wrote...

Demonique wrote...

http://blog.bioware....-mass-effect-3/ - ME writers discuss the same-sex relationships found in Mass Effect

The only glaring thing I noticed is that they didn't mention Kaidan at all. Other than that, I'm glad they tried to be more "realistic" with Traynor's romance. I never got the impression that she was a cliché lesbian.

PhoenixAeon wrote...

So I am sure someones already posted this... but will they fix it so via DLA to have m/m relationship in ME1 and ME2? Since its in there hidden? Can they now add it now that it is in ME2?

I'm very doubtful about this, since those games came out years ago.




Probably because neither Patrick or Dusty wrote for Kaidan. I can't remember who did.... :blush:

Cathleen Rootsaert. :D

I really wanted them to address the issue of making only one of the Virmire Survivors an option for same-sex.

#25416
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PhoenixAeon wrote...

So I am sure someones already posted this... but will they fix it so via DLA to have m/m relationship in ME1 and ME2? Since its in there hidden? Can they now add it now that it is in ME2?


The content isn't hidden, exactly, there are large segments missing (particularly dialogue) and ME2 was not designed to be played with m/m or f/f content. Adding that in would take more voice acting and programming work, and they aren't going to do that. 

The best you could do is edit the gender flags in ME1, or edit the plot flags from ME in an ME2 save. 

#25417
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hey guys, just dropping by. been away from the forum for some time. I just finished editing ME gay trailer(well, sort of). I've never actually seen one so I made one. Hope it doesn't sound like spam and hope it goes along with this thread. consider this a gift for fun. ;]



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NGC1300 wrote...

hey guys, just dropping by. been away from the forum for some time. I just finished editing ME gay trailer(well, sort of). I've never actually seen one so I made one. Hope it doesn't sound like spam and hope it goes along with this thread. consider this a gift for fun. ;]


Loved it. Beautiful! :)

#25419
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Finally can post after 24 hour wait

I know its kinda naive but... which one?

Dear Bioware
I am Major Alenko, I would like to spend some time with Shepard in his final moments.
He took so little and gave so much, I would be so thankful to provide a refugee for him with my arms and finally see him ascending from this world.
Please help
Thank you
Kaidan Alenko

OR

Dear Bioware
I am Major Alenko, I would like to spend Shepard's last moments on earth with him in my arms, I want him to leave this world not with hatre of the reapers, but with love of the galaxy.
I think he would like that.
Please help
Kaidan Alenko

too camp? too ambiguous?


I don't understand that bit where I was forced to shoot Kaidan in the Citadel, WTF?! how does the killing accomplish anything??? those councilors better worth 1000000 war asset points each.

Petition for telling Kaidan "I love u" anyone?

Modifié par Vigilant111, 27 mai 2012 - 02:10 .


#25420
Vigilant111

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oh one more thing, those compliments (from Jeff, James, maybe Kaidan) received by EDI... I thought that's just the writers' way of saying thanks to Tricia Helfer for lending her voice, I mean she is a great actress/model, classic robot chick from her battlestar days

off topic

Modifié par Vigilant111, 27 mai 2012 - 02:09 .


#25421
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Going through DanaDuchy's youtube vids again. Another great "mix" of dialogue: youtu.be/kdskaE-Zq7w :wub:

And also kinda off topic, but I just wanted to share this.  Obama just endorsed same-sex marriages. I don't wanna start a debate, but just thought I'd share, given the scope of this topic: firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/09/11621156-obama-i-think-same-sex-couples-should-be-able-to-get-married

Modifié par goodventure, 10 mai 2012 - 07:29 .


#25422
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goodventure wrote...

Going through DanaDuchy's youtube vids again. Another great "mix" of dialogue: youtu.be/kdskaE-Zq7w :wub:

And also kinda off topic, but I just wanted to share this.  Obama just endorsed same-sex marriages. I don't wanna start a debate, but just thought I'd share, given the scope of this topic: firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/09/11621156-obama-i-think-same-sex-couples-should-be-able-to-get-married


Obama didn't, I'm afraid. It definitely can(and will) be construed by lots of people as if he were putting himself out there, but he didn't. He covered his own ass the whole time.

gawker.com/5909002/barack-obamas-bullshit-gay-marriage-announcement

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. 

This time I'm not even the one who had to write "cop-out."

Modifié par Eromenos, 10 mai 2012 - 03:26 .


#25423
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Eromenos wrote...

...The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. 

This time I'm not even the one who had to write "cop-out."


It's at least better than the treatment by the last President.  It's not a policy change but it's something at least.  

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They're different development teams, but I thought this was a nice response over on the Dragon Age forums from one of their devs - in light of the persistent thread that hangs around here about an option in character creation to declare sexuality:

John Epler wrote...

I've sad it before, and I will say it again - we are not going to give you a sexuality toggle.

It suggests that same-sex content is something that is somehow worth being protected from, and that's not a viewpoint we're ever going to support.

Don't want to initiate a romance with a character of the same gender, turn them down. Maybe they'll be a little disappointed, but that's life. If you've never experienced being turned down by someone you're romantically interested in (and suffered the disappointment, however large or small, associated with this) then you are probably Jensen Ackles, in which case may I say that I am a tremendous fan of your work?

But yes. When it comes to inclusivity versus exclusivity (and, let's be clear, suggesting that being protected from that darned same-sex content is a valid goal is heavily on the side of exclusivity), we will always fall on the side of inclusivity. Unwanted advances from someone of the same gender is, for all intents and purposes, something we view in exactly the same way as unwanted advances from someone of the opposite gender. Turn them down and move on with your life.



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ElitePinecone wrote...

They're different development teams, but I thought this was a nice response over on the Dragon Age forums from one of their devs - in light of the persistent thread that hangs around here about an option in character creation to declare sexuality:


well you can hardly ask for a better response than that. Bioware is sticking to their guns, it is a shame they didn't do it from the start with ME1