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[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:17 .

[Kunari801]

PhoenixAeon wrote...
** FIX THE CHAT DIALOGUE for Kaiden and Shepard **

You know we got some awesome conversation between Shepard and Kaiden on Mars, but if you "hacked" your LI to be Kaiden there are bits of dialogue that is missing for you in ME3....  

Anyway, here is something you may really like to see in case you haven't seen it... 
   

I agree, there wasn't too many lines in ME3 that'd need Mr Meer to record, that could be done since he went back in for the EC.   Maybe take a half-hour or less really.  

As for recorded lines, like in the link above, that don't work with a Gibbed file...  There must be triggers that need to be set we'd just need to figure out what they were.   Gibbed has a tab to set those flags.   For example, if Kaidan is your VS, you don't get the convo's in Engineering unless you use Gibbed and set Integer 10330 to 8 

Do the lines show up if you Mod'ed your Shepard ME1?    

Modifié par Kunari801, 08 juin 2012 - 03:47 .

[darthoptimus003]

My thing is if u could as Kaiden why not ash as well that would have been great for my femshep hope this gets fixed cause that wasn't cool also Miri and tali as well cause that was the perfect chose for my other femshep bit alas no hope this gets fixed but I'm not counting on it these 3 are the only one I hooked up with in 3games with manshep but not femshep why please fix this

[PhoenixAeon]

Yes you get those lines on the screen but you do not hear MaleShep say t. If you ginned ME1. If I can figure out how to record it I will post it on YouTube.

Modifié par PhoenixAeon, 08 juin 2012 - 06:25 .

[Tiberis]

TJX2045 wrote...

Tiberis wrote...
I assume you've heard all the cut Kaidan dialogue for the manShep-Kaidan romance right? For example, they cut a line where Kaidan and Shepard exchange "I love you"s and it's a sweet. Angers me a bit that they excluded this. FemShep gets an "I love you" even if you don't import a save and stayed faithful to Kaidan. 

Linkage?

That did kind of irritate me a bit especially since they had Anders do it in Dragon Age 2.

Here, the specific part I mentioned.

[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:17 .

[Tiberis]

Precisely Hvlukas; the fact that femShep gets it no matter what just screams all sorts of wrongdoing. It's as if a gay or bi Shepard is incapable of love or something. Even if they said it only once like in the London goodbye I would have been happy. First time I saw that goodbye I was like "Here it comes, Shepard is going to confess his love it's going to be so sweet!" Imagine my disappointment when not only Shepard didn't say this but was going to just walk away. u_u

[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:17 .

[Tiberis]

Sure, first time for everything. They did the whole bi thing in DA2 and found that it wasn't really appealing or realistic. Refined it a bit in ME3; hopefully future games will have even better s/s LIs.

[Kunari801]

Tiberis wrote...

Sure, first time for everything. They did the whole bi thing in DA2 and found that it wasn't really appealing or realistic. Refined it a bit in ME3; hopefully future games will have even better s/s LIs.

Don't read too much into it but this was a very interesting article: 
http://www.gamesindu...through-success 

Not the money shot, of the article, but I found it interesting:  "...If we have two games in a row, as expensive as we are, that don't do well at all... we need to be careful."

[Bronxboy]

Hvlukas wrote...

My little brother (24, straight) told me he had tried playing Mass Effect 3 as male Shepard romancing Kaidan. He thought it their story was  “really sweet and kinda sad”, but now it had changed how he looked at the character when he went back to his normal Shepard, feeling sorry for him for secretly loving Shepard but not getting any, and wished he could set Kaidan up with Steve Cortez, so everybody could be happy. He’s normally quite into Tali and has admitted he’d have loved if a celebrity sex tape involving Tali and Shepard had leaked.

Man, I love my brother.

Your brother sounds awesome.  

[Tiberis]

Kunari801 wrote...

Tiberis wrote...

Sure, first time for everything. They did the whole bi thing in DA2 and found that it wasn't really appealing or realistic. Refined it a bit in ME3; hopefully future games will have even better s/s LIs.

Don't read too much into it but this was a very interesting article: 
http://www.gamesindu...through-success 

Not the money shot, of the article, but I found it interesting:  "...If we have two games in a row, as expensive as we are, that don't do well at all... we need to be careful."

Hm, so EA's control of BioWare is simply financial; that's okay I guess. But if that's the case, why did EA force a release date and not let them make ME3 the way they originally wanted? If BioWare truly has autonomy, then the release of the game should have been BioWare's decision, not EA's. I hope they will focus on the single-player RPG elements that we've all come to love. Expanding into other genres is not going to be the goldmine they imagine it as.

[Terrorize69]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

My thing is if u could as Kaiden why not ash as well that would have been great for my femshep hope this gets fixed cause that wasn't cool also Miri and tali as well cause that was the perfect chose for my other femshep bit alas no hope this gets fixed but I'm not counting on it these 3 are the only one I hooked up with in 3games with manshep but not femshep why please fix this

Ditto too all 3, but none more so then Tali.

Tali actually trys to start a romance with Femshep in ME2, the same way she does with Maleshep. It's Femshep that doesn't pick up on it. Dispointed in you Naomi you'd of made the perfect couple

TalixFemshep

[Kunari801]

Tiberis wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...
Don't read too much into it but this was a very interesting article: 
http://www.gamesindu...through-success 
 

Hm, so EA's control of BioWare is simply financial; that's okay I guess. But if that's the case, why did EA force a release date and not let them make ME3 the way they originally wanted? If BioWare truly has autonomy, then the release of the game should have been BioWare's decision, not EA's. I hope they will focus on the single-player RPG elements that we've all come to love. Expanding into other genres is not going to be the goldmine they imagine it as.

It's a trade mag, so I wouldn't put too much stock into the stated EA/BW relationship.  Final Hours made it sound like EA had more than just financial control.   The scary thing, what amount of money did EA demand that BW make and when is said money due (I'd guess yearly).  What occurs if they do not hit that goal? 

Good RPGs (DA:O, ME1, ME2) are going to cost more than the yearly CoD or Madden.   You can't have a quality RPG that you kick out on a yearly schedule.  If you cut too many corners you'll have a crappy RPG.  I don't blame BW for trying to push their bounderies and finding ways to streamline development... that's just business.  

I agree they should focus on what they do best.  I think ME2 was the perfect mix of RPG & Action.  I know at the time many cried that ME2 stripped too much RPG but I thought it was a good balance except two things:  I liked ME1's Citadel and the Mako.    However, many didn't like the elevators on the Citadel (and for some reason didn't use the Rapid Transit Taxi ) and many didn't like the Mako.  So it made sense they were changed. 

I can't blame them for wanting to expand their horizons like ME3 MP and maybe even SWTOR.   A MMO is a totally different type of RPG than what I want to play. 

Anyhow, I hope the "feedback" parts of the article is real.  That could bode well for the EC and maybe in future games they'll do even better with the s/s relationships. 

Modifié par Kunari801, 08 juin 2012 - 09:21 .

[Quething]

Tiberis wrote...

Sure, first time for everything. They did the whole bi thing in DA2 and found that it wasn't really appealing or realistic.

Speak for yourself. A lot of us found the DA2 method, and several of the DA2 characters, extremely appealing and perfectly realistic (within the bounds of video game romance, obviously).

A lot of things BioWare has done lately have really put me off their company. It really seems like they're going in a direction that's pretty much the opposite of the entire reason I loved them to begin with. But as much else as was wrong with DA2 and as many bad omens as it offered, I will always, always love that game for Isabela. For finally giving me a plot-integrated, well-developed, respectfully-treated major-to-the-setting female lead who was available to my female PC. Who was built that way from the start, who was rich in content from beginning to end.

Mass Effect approached that, with Liara, and sort of made a hail-mary flail at it for the guys with Kaidan. Neither holds a candle to what they accomplished with Anders and Isabela in DA2. If that's not the model they work from going forward, they've lost even more than I feared.

[PhoenixAeon]

Hvlukas wrote...

Tiberis wrote...

Here, the specific part I mentioned.

That makes me quite depressed. It would have been so, so sweet to hear that in-game. And Kaidan's voice actor plays it so nicely.

*sigh*

Bioware, if you ever get to read any of these threads: Adding the word "love", easily removes the stereotype of "homosexuality" being about only "sexuality" and sex. In short: It would have been a heartmelting moment in the game for me.

Don't be scared of love. 

Yes I agree.  We *do* love.  And they need to fix it.<_<

[Abispa]

Terrorize69 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

My thing is if u could as Kaiden why not ash as well that would have been great for my femshep hope this gets fixed cause that wasn't cool also Miri and tali as well cause that was the perfect chose for my other femshep bit alas no hope this gets fixed but I'm not counting on it these 3 are the only one I hooked up with in 3games with manshep but not femshep why please fix this

Ditto too all 3, but none more so then Tali.

Tali actually trys to start a romance with Femshep in ME2, the same way she does with Maleshep. It's Femshep that doesn't pick up on it. Dispointed in you Naomi you'd of made the perfect couple

TalixFemshep

Try reading the Tali files at the Shadow Broker ship. They're there even if you're playing female Shepard. Poor lonely Tali even purchased an upgrade...

[AmyMac]

Kunari801 wrote...
Good RPGs (DA:O, ME1, ME2) are going to cost more than the yearly CoD or Madden.   You can't have a quality RPG that you kick out on a yearly schedule.  If you cut too many corners you'll have a crappy RPG.  I don't blame BW for trying to push their bounderies and finding ways to streamline development... that's just business.  

I agree they should focus on what they do best.  I think ME2 was the perfect mix of RPG & Action.  I know at the time many cried that ME2 stripped too much RPG but I thought it was a good balance except two things:  I liked ME1's Citadel and the Mako.    However, many didn't like the elevators on the Citadel (and for some reason didn't use the Rapid Transit Taxi ) and many didn't like the Mako.  So it made sense they were changed. 

I can't blame them for wanting to expand their horizons like ME3 MP and maybe even SWTOR.   A MMO is a totally different type of RPG than what I want to play. 

Anyhow, I hope the "feedback" parts of the article is real.  That could bode well for the EC and maybe in future games they'll do even better with the s/s relationships. 

This x1000
Another thought I've had -- especially because I do enjoy MP but think putting it in with ME3 took away from a game that was supposed to be about the conclusion of Shepard's story -- is they could have made "Mass Effect: Galaxy At War" an entirely different game with a short campaign questline featuring a different (player defined) protagonist ala Gears of War (since let's be honest, ME3 could have been called "Gears of Mass Effect") ... maybe something that takes place during the 6 months where Shepard's detained by the Alliance ... and then have the multiplayer/online play be the bulk of the game. I'm sure there are plenty of die-hard Mass Effect fans who would have bought it, even if they're not too into online play. It would have given the fans something to enjoy while they spent the time that they should have developing the ME3 story and world, rather than give us a railroad with a completely absurd storyline.

[Kunari801]

Thanks, I didn't think anyone would read that wall-of-text, but I felt better after I wrote it so I didn't delete the post. )

[darthoptimus003]

Terrorize69 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

My thing is if u could as Kaiden why not ash as well that would have been great for my femshep hope this gets fixed cause that wasn't cool also Miri and tali as well cause that was the perfect chose for my other femshep bit alas no hope this gets fixed but I'm not counting on it these 3 are the only one I hooked up with in 3games with manshep but not femshep why please fix this

Ditto too all 3, but none more so then Tali.

Tali actually trys to start a romance with Femshep in ME2, the same way she does with Maleshep. It's Femshep that doesn't pick up on it. Dispointed in you Naomi you'd of made the perfect couple

TalixFemshep

i know right and it made me mad that it didnt go anywhere but i was there
now ash is another that upset me alittle that they made kaiden ss but not her
why not maybe it will get fixed

[Tiberis]

Kunari801 wrote...

It's a trade mag, so I wouldn't put too much stock into the stated EA/BW relationship.  Final Hours made it sound like EA had more than just financial control.   The scary thing, what amount of money did EA demand that BW make and when is said money due (I'd guess yearly).  What occurs if they do not hit that goal? 

Good RPGs (DA:O, ME1, ME2) are going to cost more than the yearly CoD or Madden.   You can't have a quality RPG that you kick out on a yearly schedule.  If you cut too many corners you'll have a crappy RPG.  I don't blame BW for trying to push their bounderies and finding ways to streamline development... that's just business.  

I agree they should focus on what they do best.  I think ME2 was the perfect mix of RPG & Action.  I know at the time many cried that ME2 stripped too much RPG but I thought it was a good balance except two things:  I liked ME1's Citadel and the Mako.    However, many didn't like the elevators on the Citadel (and for some reason didn't use the Rapid Transit Taxi ) and many didn't like the Mako.  So it made sense they were changed. 

I can't blame them for wanting to expand their horizons like ME3 MP and maybe even SWTOR.   A MMO is a totally different type of RPG than what I want to play. 

Anyhow, I hope the "feedback" parts of the article is real.  That could bode well for the EC and maybe in future games they'll do even better with the s/s relationships.

Alright, well I can't argue with anything here; saying pretty much what I think. I'm just kind of sick of talking about "hope this happens" because all of the cards are in BioWare's hands right now and I'm waiting to see how they deal them before I deeply discuss hopes for the future of their products.

Quething wrote...

Speak for yourself. A lot of us found the DA2 method, and several of the DA2 characters, extremely appealing and perfectly realistic (within the bounds of video game romance, obviously).

A lot of things BioWare has done lately have really put me off their company. It really seems like they're going in a direction that's pretty much the opposite of the entire reason I loved them to begin with. But as much else as was wrong with DA2 and as many bad omens as it offered, I will always, always love that game for Isabela. For finally giving me a plot-integrated, well-developed, respectfully-treated major-to-the-setting female lead who was available to my female PC. Who was built that way from the start, who was rich in content from beginning to end.

Mass Effect approached that, with Liara, and sort of made a hail-mary flail at it for the guys with Kaidan. Neither holds a candle to what they accomplished with Anders and Isabela in DA2. If that's not the model they work from going forward, they've lost even more than I feared.

I apologize if my statement was insulting. I will clarify that I was speaking for myself. I was going off what I've read and heard. I haven't played any DA games so I cannot say for certain. However, this one-character ultimate love arc irritates me. That means unless you romance that one character you are ultimately shafted. There should be equal treatment of all of the LIs. Little things like Kelly or Allers is fine, they are meant to be cheesy. But the real LI should all have equally appealling and interesting stories rich in content.

AmyMac wrote...
Another thought I've had -- especially because I do enjoy MP but think putting it in with ME3 took away from a game that was supposed to be about the conclusion of Shepard's story -- is they could have made "Mass Effect: Galaxy At War" an entirely different game with a short campaign questline featuring a different (player defined) protagonist ala Gears of War (since let's be honest, ME3 could have been called "Gears of Mass Effect") ... maybe something that takes place during the 6 months where Shepard's detained by the Alliance ... and then have the multiplayer/online play be the bulk of the game. I'm sure there are plenty of die-hard Mass Effect fans who would have bought it, even if they're not too into online play. It would have given the fans something to enjoy while they spent the time that they should have developing the ME3 story and world, rather than give us a railroad with a completely absurd storyline.

This is an excellent idea. However, I think the ME3 MP was a sort of test to see how people would react to multiplayer. I have mixed feelings of MP, mostly good, but I think it was wrong to test multiplayer on the last of an epic trilogy. So much is riding on it. Even with separate dev teams, which they have, they still have to share resources and funds. Those resources could have been put into making more SP content and making ME3 overall richer in detail. The idea for MP to affect SP is a nice idea, if done right. I don't think they did it wrong entirely, but the very best ending is not possible without some MP which is wrong. They say you don't need MP, but without it you either have to get EVERY POSSIBLE EMS item, or play that infiltrator game. Either way, you have to spend money and time outside of SP in order to accomplish it. I would expect this mechanic in a new series or just a stand-alone game; not the ending of the first ME trilogy.

[TJX2045]

Tiberis wrote...

TJX2045 wrote...

Tiberis wrote...
I assume you've heard all the cut Kaidan dialogue for the manShep-Kaidan romance right? For example, they cut a line where Kaidan and Shepard exchange "I love you"s and it's a sweet. Angers me a bit that they excluded this. FemShep gets an "I love you" even if you don't import a save and stayed faithful to Kaidan. 

Linkage?

That did kind of irritate me a bit especially since they had Anders do it in Dragon Age 2.

Here, the specific part I mentioned.

Me hearing this = 

Bioware, y you no polish up the lines and keep them in?  Y not?

Maybe add it in the EC?  One can only hope...

[Kunari801]

Tiberis wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...
...Anyhow, I hope the "feedback" parts of the article is real.  That could bode well for the EC and maybe in future games they'll do even better with the s/s relationships.

Alright, well I can't argue with anything here; saying pretty much what I think. I'm just kind of sick of talking about "hope this happens" because all of the cards are in BioWare's hands right now and I'm waiting to see how they deal them before I deeply discuss hopes for the future of their products.  

Guess I'm just optimistic like that looking for hints in articles and other news to keep hope alive. 

[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:16 .

[MACharlie1]

TJX2045 wrote...

Tiberis wrote...

TJX2045 wrote...

Tiberis wrote...
I assume you've heard all the cut Kaidan dialogue for the manShep-Kaidan romance right? For example, they cut a line where Kaidan and Shepard exchange "I love you"s and it's a sweet. Angers me a bit that they excluded this. FemShep gets an "I love you" even if you don't import a save and stayed faithful to Kaidan. 

Linkage?

That did kind of irritate me a bit especially since they had Anders do it in Dragon Age 2.

Here, the specific part I mentioned.

Me hearing this = 

Bioware, y you no polish up the lines and keep them in?  Y not?

Maybe add it in the EC?  One can only hope...

Akward animations for manShep since FemShep says them while sitting on his lap. Too lazy to come up with a man/man equivalent. Though truthfully, I'd sit on my non-existent boyfriends lap just before sex. But then again, I'm tiny and my imaginary boyfriend is huge.