I wonder if the debate
as to how to implement them would have gone differently if Kaidan/Ash had been
bi from the start. The fact that the audio files exist for it suggests that the
idea was at least there in some phase of the planning, regardless of how early
it was cut. It goes back to the fact that a game in 2007 with meaningful s/s
romances would have been received with a greater degree of apprehension than a
game in 2012.
That's what I've always heard, but recently It was brought
to my attention that the possible problem with that theory is the V/O was done
in that way because of the way they had to implement the V/O technology. They
had both Meer and Hale V/O all available lines. If you listen hard, and
long for example, you'll find lines Meer V/O'd which were clearly intended for
Hale, he'll say thing such as 'I'm a woman' to Liara for example, or similar .
What would be interesting, and the real tell-tale is to compare femshep and
maleshep lines word for word. Unique Maleshep lines would be a clear indication
that there was a genuine interest.
I also feel like it was their first time
saying it, but whether it is or not, just being able to finally hear it was so
gratifying. Throughout the game it just feels like they're taking it slow
and really haven't hit the "love" point until that moment at the
beam. After all, these are the same guys who can't even figure out what
constitutes as flirting between one another.
The initial goodbye scene would've been a
suitable place for it, but they were being awkward that entire time and Shep
just tries to walk away without a "proper" goodbye. Between Shep
getting all intimidating and saying Kaidan better be there when it's all over
and Kaidan's response, it really feels like that might have been the moment
they realized they do love each other, but expressing that was a different
story so they just kind of went with what they knew. That final push to the
beam probably drives home the point that this really is it and now's not the
time for regrets.
I would have to agree. I took their relationship
as something new to them both, so there was a subtle awkwardness in
everything, even down to the (sometimes) cheesy feeling writing.
The Romance didn't feel real up until that EC scene for me. Emotional yes,
this is the first game that's genuinely had me going Niagara falls over
character's.. However, the Romance always had the aurora of 'is this how this
goes? or, what should be done here?' instead of feeling much more fluid like
the other romances. I believe it was during the PAX East hour long conference
where it was brought to the attention that the S/S romance writing was essentially
done by a writer whom was unfamiliar with the topic entirely. It kind of shows
honestly. Thank goodness it's there, but it's easily susceptible to criticism.
Up until the EC, which fixed nearly everything. Curious how 30seconds and 3
words makes a difference in 300hours of game play.
Aside
from that, why is nobody mentioning the memorial scene with
Kaidan? ] That sideways glance, the hesitation--that's the part that
really tore me up. I was so hung up on how emotional he was that I never
noticed whether or not he put Shep's plaque up (guessing no since I got the
breath scene).[/color]
That part had me more choked up than the ILY's.
I was probably too frustrated with the mood the OE left me in to enjoy the EC
at that point, but when it got to that part, I knew it was over, and that was
all I was going to get. I suppose I was more upset that there wasn’t more than
I was upset about the characters. That's OK though, it turned me onto threads
like this, and some pretty good fanfics. I eventually hope to run-through the
game again after some DLC is out and truly enjoy it next time.
I think it's awesome they gave a male/male
option in 3, I just wish they wouldn't re-write established sexualities (Kaidan
being completely straight in 1, then being bi in 3 for example) to cater to
fans.
Aside from the fact that most people I've run
into had Kaidan alert their radar almost immediately, I would rather have a
role reversal on a character that I've known for 5 years and have secretly
wished was s/s turn out to be s/s rather than have someone 'thrown together at
the last minute' like Cortez. There is simply no 'love at first sight' when it
comes to storytelling.
It was an emotional
sequence, I agree.
I was especially taken
with how gently he was handling the nameplate, even more than some of the
facial expressions. He really wasn't ready to let go (and lucky for him, he's
not going to have to!)
Yes.. Bioware knows just where to punch us in
the gut. They're like the playground bully with our emtions..
PS. I didn't get the 'visit you soon' message on
my datapad? what gives? D=
Also...threadjack== anyone know if I delete
these will they re-appear as I playthrough again?
Modifié par blmlozz, 05 juillet 2012 - 11:15 .
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That sideways glance, the hesitation--that's the part that really tore me up. I was so hung up on how emotional he was that I never noticed whether or not he put Shep's plaque up (guessing no since I got the breath scene).
