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#2801
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Kaidan wipes his sweat off his brow ever time Shep approaches him obviously he get a little hot under the collar when Shepard is around.

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

Such reason... so much sense.

Lol, when I read that last line I flashed back to the "Liara isn't a woman" rubbish. I hope it would be feasible to have some kind of ceremony for those that want it (myself included when it comes to Liara). I would like to see some encouragement from LIs for it though, rather than just going along with it all. 

 

On the other hand people who don't want that ceremony having the LIs bring it up could feel forced to them. Better to leave it up to the player. Less toes stepped on that way. 

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Roachbugg wrote...

Kaidan wipes his sweat off his brow ever time Shep approaches him obviously he get a little hot under the collar when Shepard is around.

I always thought that was because he was working on whatever it was he was working on.

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Zeratul20 wrote...

Roachbugg wrote...

Kaidan wipes his sweat off his brow ever time Shep approaches him obviously he get a little hot under the collar when Shepard is around.

I always thought that was because he was working on whatever it was he was working on.

 

Never knew what he was working on either. And that ugly yellow light overhead. Bleh. 

But yeah I figured he was tinkering with something electrical (he is a techie) and it probably required concentration and he got sweaty. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2011 - 07:11 .


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but he only does it when Shepard approaches only time sounds suggestive to me. Then the lines on horizon and some of his other dialog and body language that IssacShep already mentioned point toward potential bisexuality.

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Roachbugg wrote...

but he only does it when Shepard approaches only time sounds suggestive to me. Then the lines on horizon and some of his other dialog and body language that IssacShep already mentioned point toward potential bisexuality.


He only does it when Shep approaches because the game scripts it that way. XD 

The lines of Horizon apply for FemShep as well and the body language seemed fine to me. With Horizon hewas using Ash's rig so of course the body language seemed off. 

Edit: Just saying how I see it. I know others see differently. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2011 - 07:15 .


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Roachbugg wrote...

but he only does it when Shepard approaches only time sounds suggestive to me. Then the lines on horizon and some of his other dialog and body language that IssacShep already mentioned point toward potential bisexuality.

I think he does it when he idles too, but I'm not too certain about that...

On the other hand, mechanics-wise it wouldn't be abnormal for him to do that only when the commander approaches him, seeing as they just want to show the player that he's working on stuff. (like Ryzaki said: whatever it was he was working on.)

Modifié par Zeratul20, 27 juin 2011 - 07:14 .


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thinking about Shepard naked :P no way to know what he was doing

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Roachbugg wrote...

thinking about Shepard naked :P no way to know what he was doing

It all makes SENSE, now! He was googling with the safe search off!

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Zeratul20 wrote...

Roachbugg wrote...

thinking about Shepard naked :P no way to know what he was doing

It all makes SENSE, now! He was googling with the safe search off!

 

I heard someone say he was looking at porn when Shepard came by. XD It explains why he knows about what's on extranet fetish sites. :whistle:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2011 - 07:23 .


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lol i can see it now kaidan sees Shepard coming and rapidly clicks the little x in the corner lol wipes the sweat of his brow because he evaded detection :P

Modifié par Roachbugg, 27 juin 2011 - 07:26 .


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KawaiiKatie wrote...
*snip*



O_o :D :o

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Too much testosterone in here :P

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Ok on topic since we don't want to turn into one of those threads.  This Kaidan news makes me quite happy on two fronts.  One my Kaidan loving comrades will almost certainly get their romance so partay! :wizard:

 Secondly I think and it seems the general agreement is that if Kaidan is bi then it's likely that Ash is too and then I am happy for my Ash loving friends and myself SUPA PARTAY :wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 27 juin 2011 - 07:54 .


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My Femshep is gonna marry Ash and it's gonna be fantastic, dammit! :D

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A slight thing on body builds.

I kinda assume that for a soldier endurance than strength is more important and I kinda assume that the rather close quarters battle we have in ME games are more indicative of the "special ops" nature of Shepards missions.

Unless offcourse your job is to carry around a heavy as h**' machinegun...


EDIT and PS: Regarding undertones and being flirty. I'm like that around pretty much everybody without that making me anything other than slightly perverse.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 27 juin 2011 - 09:02 .


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xassantex wrote...

:wizard: -- We are pleased to announce Commander John Sheppard:kissing: and Admiral Hackett :police:will commit to a civil partnership on June 1st 2187 . Not having known his father, Shepard always felt a strong attraction :o towards mature men . He was deeply moved ;) when learning Admiral Hackett had remained faithful <_The ship's AI, EDI will be master of ceremonies -_-
Sergeant Gardner has kindly accepted to prepare a most unique reception :sick:

Please confirm you presence by April 30th , A list of appropriate gifts -$$$$$$$ - can be found in Shepard's  favourite shops on the Citadel under Shepard/Hackett .
--:wizard:
---

;)





Hahaha ... Oh easter egg there... Normandy leaving the citadel with long chains of cans behind it and a huge "Newly wed" on ...

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Regarding same sex marriages.

They have been availabe at city halls here in DK for.. hmm 20 odd years now.

However our official christian religion will not marry in churches. Which I'm kinda ok with. Their form of christianity doesn't allow that. However I do think it's time for our society (here in DK) to ditch state sanctioned religion.

Theres no reason to not have a christian interpretation that allows same sex marriages.

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Time4Tiddy wrote...

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Valids point all around except the bold part IMO. Even at this age, it just doesn't really happen anymore, unless extreme cases. Everyone knows about the existance of homosexuality. Not really a case when it wasn't discussed at all like a hundred years ago for a example. WIth the internet, television, radio and overall access to information it's just not very realistic someone would live past his teen years, past his your adulthood and everything without never realizing he likes the same sex as well with all the suggestions around reaching that person. But that's my opinion ;P


It may depend on where you live and your current age.  I'm 35 myself, and I can tell you that in Minnesota you would not believe the number of guys that are just coming out in their 30s after being married for ten years and having a bunch of kids.  I do think it's less likely for guys who are 20 -right now- to use that argument, but guys who are older it's still happening a lot.

Also, consider that in humanity's past, there have been plenty of times where homosexuality was no big deal.  Ancient Greece we're talking thousands of years ago where every young man had an older gay lover.  Native Americans celebrated the two-spirits as shamans and prophets.  The early Christian Church married same-sex couples.  And yet here we are in 2011 with teaparty republicans winning elections using gay panic.  There's is no guarantee that 150 years from now we'll be more enlightened and more accepting.  Not that I'm being pessimistic, just that I'm saying the future we've been shown doesn't necessarily imply that you'd be comfortable with your sexuality and being open about it, and just extrapolating that we'll be more liberal in 150 years as a matter of course is a bit illogical given human history.  We've been told that Earth is basically a bunch of slums with a huge gap between rich and poor.  Sounds like the end result of increasingly conservative/republican/teaparty system to me. 


2 Things I had to comment...

Coming out of the closet. It's fine and dandy that people find themselves but...

I allways found it sad that people, if they have any doubts whatso ever, still enter a huge thing like marriage and having children. Thats not only doubts about their sexuality but also maybe their love for the person in question.

Politics. Even if people were against homosexuality. How on EARTH could you base your vote on THAT issue. Theres a helluva lot of more pressing issues in politics than s/s relationships.



EDIT and sorry for the row of posts here. I felt the different things deserved different posts for readability and quotability. And I'm on GMT+1 so I'm a little ahead Posted Image of most (?) people here.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 27 juin 2011 - 09:37 .


#2820
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The political makeup of humanity in the Mass Effect universe has actually been commented upon.

The reason for the 'widening rich and poor' gap isn't a result of domestic politic, but international relations. Some nations were rich enough and powerful enough to get medical advances, genetic technology and invest in colonies within the solar system. Others spent ages catching up to 20th century or 21st century technology.

The Systems Alliance regulations that we've seen on religious freedom and the responses to Hendel Mitra in the books seem to suggest that humanity as a whole is vastly more liberal when it comes to differences within humanity. Not to mention the apparent 'melting pot' of human culture and ethnicity by the mid 22nd century.

In short: rich/poor gap in ME is due to differences between countries, not within them. Politics as far as we've seen is remarkably liberal and tolerant of human diversity, but not always galactic diversity (Terra Firma etc). I would find it incredibly unlikely that a conservative or reactionary mentality dominated the political discourse of 2186, at least when it came to social issues within humanity.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

The political makeup of humanity in the Mass Effect universe has actually been commented upon.

The reason for the 'widening rich and poor' gap isn't a result of domestic politic, but international relations. Some nations were rich enough and powerful enough to get medical advances, genetic technology and invest in colonies within the solar system. Others spent ages catching up to 20th century or 21st century technology.

The Systems Alliance regulations that we've seen on religious freedom and the responses to Hendel Mitra in the books seem to suggest that humanity as a whole is vastly more liberal when it comes to differences within humanity. Not to mention the apparent 'melting pot' of human culture and ethnicity by the mid 22nd century.

In short: rich/poor gap in ME is due to differences between countries, not within them. Politics as far as we've seen is remarkably liberal and tolerant of human diversity, but not always galactic diversity (Terra Firma etc). I would find it incredibly unlikely that a conservative or reactionary mentality dominated the political discourse of 2186, at least when it came to social issues within humanity.


In the ME universe, it appears that the socio-political scale in entirety has just been shifted radically to the left. Conservatism and liberalism would still exist, but their definitions and agendas would undoubtedly have altered accordingly. For better or worse, these kinds of shifts are intrinsic social progress at work.

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Undoubtedly, yeah.

I also got the impression (though it could be entirely wrong) that the political debate had shifted beyond social or economic questions to 'galactic relations', so to speak. So much of the human politics we saw had to do with reactions or responses to other species and the Council, not so much the comparatively 'pettier' issues of human economics or society.

We'll probably never get a good insight into the dynamics of Alliance politics, but from what we've seen it does seem to have very different priorities to contemporary humanity.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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Zeveran? A twink?

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Bel Ami would be all over him...


I <3 that insanely gorgeous elf.

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My MShep want to "calibrate" Jakob.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

.... I would find it incredibly unlikely that a conservative or reactionary mentality dominated the political discourse of 2186, at least when it came to social issues within humanity.


yeah, but a liberal mind could have said the same thing 200 years ago, and look at us now. 
things are bit better, but far from ideal... and it depends where you live too. 
i do think , or hope that social attitudes in 150 years from now will be widely different and for the better . 
But never underestimate stupidity. 

Modifié par xassantex, 27 juin 2011 - 02:33 .