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[Knight of Dane]

Nyoka wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Beautiful couple

Doesn't beat Liara on her best day though.
But she's good 'nuff i s'pose

[The Uncanny]

VirtualStranger wrote...

My assessment of S/S romance potential in ME3...

Thank you for your opinions.

VirtualStranger wrote...

Miranda
Should she be? - I think having her as a bi option would turn her into more of a fanservice magnet than she already is. As for her personally? I always saw her as straight. I can't imagine why her father would design her as anything other than straight, considering that she was supposed to "carry on his lineage." Others would probably disagree, though.
Will she be? - Probably not. Unless they decide to go for pure fanboy titillation.

Your one dimensional assessment of a layered, complex character has been duly noted.

How she in particular gets demarcated as 'fanservice' when lots of other characters in this series are presented disproportionately or overtly sexually, I'm sure I don't know.

And the suggestion that she would be 'designed straight' is one I find particularly absurd and insulting.

[superg30]

I dont really think that the s/s thing should be in ME3, it was in DA2 and it kinda ruined the game, if it is implemented into the game there should be an option before the start of every new game saying " Would you like to allow same sex romances(other than Liara) to be allowed?" or an option should pop up asking if you would like s/s romances on or off, and that option would disable the s/s thing for the entire game, im not against s/s marriages in real life or anything, but playing through DA2, and discorvering the s/s romance options kinda destroyed the story line for me. I'm just saying that if it were implemented into ME3, there should be an option to turn it off or on at the start of the game.

[Siansonea]

superg30 wrote...

I dont really think that the s/s thing should be in ME3, it was in DA2 and it kinda ruined the game, if it is implemented into the game there should be an option before the start of every new game saying " Would you like to allow same sex romances(other than Liara) to be allowed?" or an option should pop up asking if you would like s/s romances on or off, and that option would disable the s/s thing for the entire game, im not against s/s marriages in real life or anything, but playing through DA2, and discorvering the s/s romance options kinda destroyed the story line for me. I'm just saying that if it were implemented into ME3, there should be an option to turn it off or on at the start of the game.

You know, you might be in the wrong thread. We're talking about HOW it should be implemented, not WHETHER it should be implemented. There are other threads that discuss the subject you're talking about.

[ArawnNox]

And, despite that, it IS going to be implemented.

[ElitePinecone]

*facepalm*

[Rinji the Bearded]

superg30 wrote...

I dont really think that the s/s thing should be in ME3, it was in DA2 and it kinda ruined the game, if it is implemented into the game there should be an option before the start of every new game saying " Would you like to allow same sex romances(other than Liara) to be allowed?" or an option should pop up asking if you would like s/s romances on or off, and that option would disable the s/s thing for the entire game, im not against s/s marriages in real life or anything, but playing through DA2, and discorvering the s/s romance options kinda destroyed the story line for me. I'm just saying that if it were implemented into ME3, there should be an option to turn it off or on at the start of the game.

S/S was around way before DA2, bucko.  It's here to stay, might as well get cozy.

[demonic_cookie]

Yeah buddy, gotta get with the program already. Teh gay is here to stay.


I really think if they're going to add another same-sex romance to the girl side (the one I'm selfishly more concerned about), then it gotta be someone badass. Liara is the cute adorable kind, even with Taking A Level Of Badass, and there needs to be another type. So it probably  leaves Tali out, especially considering the "oh my Shep is not lesbian, she's xenophilic" thing people will do... The viable options then are Jack, Miranda, or a new character (I will love Bioware forever for a chance to bang Aria, but - not going to happen). Both characters strike me as possibly bisexual, especially considering statistically higher percentages of bisexual women.

Miranda is not my first choice, but I think it would be incredible to have someone so sexy, self-assured and capable as a f/f romance. I could easily buy her not wanting to start anything with femShep during ME2 just because it would be more complicated than straight romance. I can also easily buy Cerberus being homophobic penises who are all about procreation and passing down your genes so Miranda might have been also under pressure from the organization to keep her orientation hidden.

As for me personally, I'm just hoping with all my heart they make Jack reconsider the whole not playing for the girls team. I would like to get an explanation out of her on that, but I think that just "a lot of bad memories" might be enough. If the relationship she mentions in her dialogue was the only time she'd had something with a woman I can see her being wary. Although I can see her just going "I changed my fu-ing mind, Shepard" *eyeroll* and not explaining anything, and I'll be happy. Because Jack is awesome.

As for Ashley/Kaidan coming out as bisexual... I would buy it. Both have good reason to simply not question their orientation for a long time. Kaidan was busy in Braincamp, then serving (which I imagine is not that easy with L2s and their side-effects) Ashley was raised in a military family... A lot of people feel same-sex attraction during their lives, but don't act on it and don't come out as bisexual simply because it's not what's expected on them. But in the last 2 years both of them went through hell and back, matured, travelled the galaxy... They might just realize that it's okay to act on those feelings.


Whew that was long. Wanted to ask people - are you making celibate!Shepard runs to get to ME3 and explore all the delicious new romances or am I alone in my dorkiness?

Modifié par demonic_cookie, 27 juin 2011 - 05:13 .

[Knight of Dane]

superg30 wrote...

I dont really think that the s/s thing should be in ME3, it was in DA2 and it kinda ruined the game, if it is implemented into the game there should be an option before the start of every new game saying " Would you like to allow same sex romances(other than Liara) to be allowed?" or an option should pop up asking if you would like s/s romances on or off, and that option would disable the s/s thing for the entire game, im not against s/s marriages in real life or anything, but playing through DA2, and discorvering the s/s romance options kinda destroyed the story line for me. I'm just saying that if it were implemented into ME3, there should be an option to turn it off or on at the start of the game.

It doesn't ruin anything, it's completely optional to initiate any romance in that game, and if you do it will exist perfectly with the Story line (Except for Merrill pre patch, bugs)

Alowing people to say no to gay content in any game if it is in it, would be like Apartheid.

If anything, players should have the option to turn on/off all romances straight ones included.

[Siansonea]

You're not alone Demonic Cookie, I have a celibate male Sentinel who is primed and ready for a s/s romance (and Kaidan is VS, just in case he's the option). My f/f character is in a committed relationship with Liara already, and they're pretty like-minded, so I can't see that relationship going south any time soon. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and all that.

[ArawnNox]

demonic_cookie wrote...
*snip*

Wanted to ask people - are you making celibate!Shepard runs to get to ME3 and explore all the delicious new romances or am I alone in my dorkiness?

Oh I totally am. Actually, I'm partially planning on a "bad luck" shep who looses her crushes on Virmire and the Suicide Mission, only to (hopefully) find that love in ME3.

[Knight of Dane]

demonic_cookie wrote...
Wanted to ask people - are you making celibate!Shepard runs to get to ME3 and explore all the delicious new romances or am I alone in my dorkiness?

Actually no. Even there is going to be some new romances that interest me i will just start a new game from the ME3 main menu.
I have Liara(FShep), Tali, Garrus and if need be a Mirandamance waiting, that's gonna do it for me.

I support m/m romance but isn't going to chase it myself.

[ElitePinecone]

demonic_cookie wrote...
 Wanted to ask people - are you making celibate!Shepard runs to get to ME3 and explore all the delicious new romances or am I alone in my dorkiness?

I most definitely am. My new canon Shepard is a paragon War Hero Spacer male adept 

All of my previous male Sheps were celibate in any case, and I was just going to run them through ME3 without a romance of any kind in the absence of any that fitted their character (i.e. S/S). Now that it's there, who knows. 

I may even start a new femShep to try out the f/f - I have one with Kaidan at the moment but I'd love to see what happens with the female options in ME3. 

[Puzzlewell]

 DEMANDS DEMANDS DEMANDS.

...

Am I doing this right? Cause apparently this is what we're supposedly doing in this lovely topic. 


Haha sorry, I got a kick out of that and figured I'd go way overboard in the other topic. It might come to that though cause the topic is becoming *utterly hilarious* with its reasoning and I can't resist forever.


As for celebate!Sheps: Mhmm I plan to make one main FemShep crushing on Ash in 1, distracted from those feelings by Miri in 2, only to have them brought back up come Horizon. That way if either girl is an option in 3 (or both! but I'm greedy), this poor pentup Shep can finally find some love.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 27 juin 2011 - 06:07 .

[ElitePinecone]

CalamityRanger wrote...
the topic is becoming *utterly hilarious* with its reasoning

I'm rapidly becoming bitter and jaded as we speak 

It's not the false logic and sheer, stubborn lack of evidence that gets me most, it's that in the majority of cases these hide a genuine discomfort that people can't express. 

I start to notice the language changing after a few posts, it switches from reasonable-sounding concerns about character continuity (even if the reasoning is half-baked) to some sort of raving conspiracy about BioWare being influenced by a cabal of secretive homosexual overlords. 

Is it too much to admit that they have a problem with the content, and that's the reason for the long-winded exercises in pointless sophistry?

[Rinji the Bearded]

I, for one, welcome our homosexual overlords

[shepskisaac]

ElitePinecone wrote...
It's not the false logic and sheer, stubborn lack of evidence that gets me most, it's that in the majority of cases these hide a genuine discomfort that people can't express.

To me the animosity is simply obvious. It's the same as in real life when people tell their friends "I don't mind homosexuality at all, I'm not homophobic in a bit! But I hope YOU don't tell me one day you're gay...". Homosexuality/bisexuality is OK as long as it's not too close to them. Sorry, but that shows they still have basic problem with the entire concept.

Anyway, can someone notify mods to close that thread? I don't know how to do it :/ But it's just irritating how all anti-s/s threads remain opened for 20+ pages.

[Ryzaki]

Why? They're obviously (due to the OP) not allowed to express such sentiments here.

Might as well give them their own thread.

[ElitePinecone]

 "I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground glitter caves."
Because glitter and stereotypes and HURR DURR. 

[Puzzlewell]

ElitePinecone wrote...
I'm rapidly becoming bitter and jaded as we speak 

It's not the false logic and sheer, stubborn lack of evidence that gets me most, it's that in the majority of cases these hide a genuine discomfort that people can't express. 

I start to notice the language changing after a few posts, it switches from reasonable-sounding concerns about character continuity (even if the reasoning is half-baked) to some sort of raving conspiracy about BioWare being influenced by a cabal of secretive homosexual overlords. 

Is it too much to admit that they have a problem with the content, and that's the reason for the long-winded exercises in pointless sophistry?

I think one of the things that is bothering me the most is that ComputerGod has already started jumping on you "Blargh you guyz are all calling us stupid and morons for not liking s/s" boat. Now correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see anyone from this topic that has stepped in to be the counter-argument stoop to namecalling. 

I don't think we're being irrational, harsh, any of that. I mean we have purely straight members in here that still support the plight because all we're asking for is a bit of equality. I give my respect to BW because they're taking this risk, and the backlash proves that it is indeed a risk. I don't consider this pandering by any means (I don't know about you but I'm starting to hate that word with how much it's being thrown around lately...), it's just opening up new avenues for play. I don't consider us militant or demanding in any way, shape or form. Hell, most of us have characters we'd *like* to see become options but we've already prepared the back of our mind just incase they aren't.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 27 juin 2011 - 06:34 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Ryzaki wrote...

Why? They're obviously (due to the OP) not allowed to express such sentiments here.

Might as well give them their own thread.

I agree. Let's keep this thread pro-S/S. I like that this is a place "for the love."

[catabuca]

all my canon mansheps have been celibate since i first bought me1, so it's nothing new for me. that said, i'm currently going through the whole lot one final time with my last celibate manshep, who will be the one to romance kaidan if kaidan is, in fact, available.

i still have a couple of femsheps to take through as well. i need a liara femshep romance, and a celibate femshep ready for me3. then i'm good to go

[Ryzaki]

On the celibate Shep notes all my Sheps save five are celibates.

[Roachbugg]

Ryzaki wrote...

On the celibate Shep notes all my Sheps save five are celibates.

how many shep do you have? lol