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[AngelicMachinery]

King Gigglez wrote...

Am I the only person who thinks the majority of the Krogen population is bi? Just because of the fact that there aren't many fertile females and while they would want to reproduce with them, wouldn't 'pervertedness' affect them and just start having sex with one another?

I also don't know how to explain it... but to me it makes some sense...

No,  this is hilarious,  but no.  While I approve of a military culture being made up of mostly bisexuals,  this isn't how sexuality works.

[PlumPaul93]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...
That's fine and all but the problem with this are the options are 1.start a romance 2.Kindda hint that a romance started (I don't know for sure if middle option starts romance but there is a heart) 3.Act like a ****** which warrants rivalry. There is no neutral option regarding this (which should be able to save my ass if I don't want to lose points because of design oversight). That's all I'm asking for a way to avoid getting penalized because the game did something you didn't want it to do or say. Now I'm done talking about this since were just talking about the same stuff over and over and probably going off topic.

None of that is in anyway related to sexuality though.
What you just described is an issue with the dialogue system being awkward and not properly communicating the tone of Hawke's response. Yes, that's an issue in a lot of places and is in no way restricted to the conversation with Anders.
A sexuality toggle wouldn't have stopped that. It certainly won't stop it in ME3 as Shep is the reigning lord and master of awkward moments where his/her tone is more aggressive/friendly than the dialogue wheel indicated.

I never said I would blindly support a toggle. I just said I want something that helps make the dialouge system better. Whether it's a toggle or not I just want the choices fixed regarding romances in general.

[King Gigglez]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

King Gigglez wrote...

Am I the only person who thinks the majority of the Krogen population is bi? Just because of the fact that there aren't many fertile females and while they would want to reproduce with them, wouldn't 'pervertedness' affect them and just start having sex with one another?

I also don't know how to explain it... but to me it makes some sense...

No,  this is hilarious,  but no.  While I approve of a military culture being made up of mostly bisexuals,  this isn't how sexuality works.

No but thats who curiousness happens, and some people could like it  it makes sense if you don't think about it!  lol but anyway, something just says Grunt is bi >v< samething with Garrus (just less noticible) but that is probably just me...

[AngelicMachinery]

King Gigglez wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

King Gigglez wrote...

Am I the only person who thinks the majority of the Krogen population is bi? Just because of the fact that there aren't many fertile females and while they would want to reproduce with them, wouldn't 'pervertedness' affect them and just start having sex with one another?

I also don't know how to explain it... but to me it makes some sense...

No,  this is hilarious,  but no.  While I approve of a military culture being made up of mostly bisexuals,  this isn't how sexuality works.

No but thats who curiousness happens, and some people could like it  it makes sense if you don't think about it!  lol but anyway, something just says Grunt is bi >v< samething with Garrus (just less noticible) but that is probably just me...

Curiousity doesn't have anything to do with one's capability to reproduce.  The internet would have a lot more bi people.

[ElitePinecone]

^ Not to mention it's a bit premature to apply human labels to aliens.

We don't really know anything about krogan or turian culture. Look at the diversity of sexuality among humans and apply that to two radically different species with differing social norms...

Throwing around 'bisexual' as a label isn't that relevant to another species.

[shepskisaac]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

This might be an unpopular opinion but I really hope if Ash and Kaidan are s/s romancable they aren't the only s/s romancable characters.

I'd feel cheated. If I can't have the epic-3-game-story-arc then I'd rather have a universal-third-act-romance. I'd feel like I don't get the whole story if s/s Kaidan is a third-act-romance but hetero!Kaidan is this sweeping tale of romance and betrayal.
But that's just me.

I'd feel cheated if only new characters would be available for gay romance. If I can't have the epic-trilogy-spanning romance arc, I want the closest substitute possible, not only a something that solely appears in ME3.

[ElitePinecone]

IsaacShep wrote...
I'd feel cheated if only new characters would be available for gay romance. If I can't have the epic-trilogy-spanning romance arc, I want the closest substitute possible, not only a something that solely appears in ME3.

We may get a little of both, but I wouldn't take Sbarge's comments as confirmation. 

Hudson seemed eager to stress the 'new characters' angle, and while it's entirely possible that the VS or familiar characters will be available also, I'd be far more expectant of s/s relationships being possible with new characters. 

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm tempering my hopes for the moment, or until we get some better confirmation.  

[Mysot_Stormrage]

Hehe, this makes me loads of happy as a gay man *rubs his hands together* Aslong as they aren't all like that mage in DA2......I can't even remember his name anymore. I want a bi-turian >.> I had to play fem-shep last time to get to bonk Garrus........no pun intended

[KawaiiKatie]

But but but but....

Okay, yes, if manShep and Kaidan finally get together after years of sexual tension, that'll be amazing. But isn't there something to be said about Shepard finally finding his lover at all?

Think about it... Shepard struggles for years and years... "Proud, solitary, alone"... and not even his closest friends really seem to understand him. All of the women around him just assume that he's straight, and yet no matter how badly he wants the words to come out, he just can't say the truth out loud...

And then, in the final hour, in the darkest hour, Shepard finally meets... him. The one person he connects with, a person he wouldn't have been able to meet unless all of the horrible events of ME1 and ME2 had taken place. It feels like destiny. Like fate.

I think it would be romantic. Very romantic. If Kaidan and manShep finally get together and validate the trilogy-experience of playing gayShep, I'll be over the moon. But if the only same-sex male option is a new character, I can definitely make it work.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:44 .

[ElitePinecone]

KawaiiKatie wrote...
I think it would be romantic. Very romantic. If Kaidan and manShep finally get together and valid the trilogy-experience of playing gayShep, I'll be over the moon. But if the only same-sex male option is a new character, I can definitely make it work.

I don't doubt that it's very romantic and it's my first preference for m/m in ME3.

That being said, we have to be realistic, and we don't know Bioware's internal plans. 

I'd love it if Kaidan was the s/s option, given how long we've known he was originally available for mShep. 

All I'm saying is: unfounded hope can lead to a lot of disappointment. Every indication has been that Bioware are pushing the new characters rather than the old, probably to avoid the sort of fan reaction Anders got (deserved or otherwise). 

[Ryzaki]

A new character sounds awesome.

As long as he has a sense of humor, good looks and a sexy accent I'm happy. Extremely happy.

If he's a soldier I'll be even happier. I never have reasons to take the soldier types on missions (I almost always left Grunt and Zaeed behind)

[AngelicMachinery]

Yea, Isaac, I really hope that you get what you want. I just think you shouldn't assume that you're guaranteed Kaidan because of one comment by a voice actor. I'm not saying not to hold out hope, but, take it with a grain of salt so you're not completely devastated if it doesn't come to fruition.

[bleetman]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Every indication has been that Bioware are pushing the new characters rather than the old, probably to avoid the sort of fan reaction Anders got (deserved or otherwise). 

Good grief, I hope not. Not out of being disappointed by my lack of rooted-for-character, but for all that outrage being taken remotely seriously. If people do what I think they were doing - looking at Awakenings Anders and Dragon Age 2 Anders and concluding that 'he isn't quirky anymore, this is what happens when you make a character bisexual' - their opinions don't deserve the effort it takes to read them. The 'fan reaction' to Anders was phenominally undeserved.

[Rinji the Bearded]

ElitePinecone wrote...

I don't doubt that it's very romantic and it's my first preference for m/m in ME3.

That being said, we have to be realistic, and we don't know Bioware's internal plans. 

I'd love it if Kaidan was the s/s option, given how long we've known he was originally available for mShep. 

All I'm saying is: unfounded hope can lead to a lot of disappointment. Every indication has been that Bioware are pushing the new characters rather than the old, probably to avoid the sort of fan reaction Anders got (deserved or otherwise). 

I hate using Anders as an example because he wasn't even romanceable in the first game he was in.  He didn't suddenly turn bisexual -- he always was, and there is little anyone can say to prove otherwise. The way you would fix an "Anders-type situation" would for the romance to be Shepard-initiated and for him not to get all butthurt over being dumped.

Other than that, when it comes to Anders, my opinion is mostly CRY SOME MOAR when it comes to other people whining about him.

I'm still not 100% gunning for Kaidan s/s romance in ME3 but I really doubt Bioware is going to bow down to the whims of paranoid people.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:57 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Nyoka wrote...

Meh. Shepard doesn't want some new, diversity-filling, appeaser tool. She wants the person she has known and loved for four years now. I don't want Bioware telling me "yo dawg i herd you like gay so we put a gay in your gay so she can be gay while shes gay"

I lolled.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Nyoka wrote...

Meh. Shepard doesn't want some new, diversity-filling, appeaser tool. She wants the person she has known and loved for four years now. I don't want Bioware telling me "yo dawg i herd you like gay so we put a gay in your gay so she can be gay while shes gay"

See, that's why I'd be kind of against having only new s/s options.  It'd be like the fans of Tali and Garrus being given a new female quarian and a new male turian to romance instead of becoming LI options themselves.  Probably a horrible example but I think Vega would be received poorly by the "majority" if he were just there so gay male Shepards can get their groove on.

And for femshep, "here's a REAL s/s option, sorry that Liara really wasn't s/s."

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 10 juillet 2011 - 07:05 .

[ElitePinecone]

bleetman wrote...
The 'fan reaction' to Anders was phenominally undeserved.

Be that as it may (and I completely agree), Bioware are very, very jumpy at the moment when it comes to fan reaction. 

I'm not saying they'd want to avoid controversy (although they probably would), but rather that a lot of people have been angsty about the idea of former characters being open to s/s romances. 

Mainly "DUDEBRO GARRUS", not so much Kaidan, and never f/f options (surprise...). 

I'm just saying Bioware may want to err on the side of caution by making only new characters avalable flr s/s. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Be that as it may (and I completely agree), Bioware are very, very jumpy at the moment when it comes to fan reaction. 

I'm not saying they'd want to avoid controversy (although they probably would), but rather that a lot of people have been angsty about the idea of former characters being open to s/s romances. 

Mainly "DUDEBRO GARRUS", not so much Kaidan, and never f/f options (surprise...). 

I'm just saying Bioware may want to err on the side of caution by making only new characters avalable flr s/s. 

I wouldn't be so sure.  They've stated time and time again that romances are a small, OPTIONAL part of the game, so when you have a group of people yelling and crying and throwing a tantrum about something that is completely optional, it tends to look bad on them rather bad on Bioware.

And we all know how erring side of the caution worked when FOX News made a big deal out of ME1.  IE, they didn't err side on the caution of all, and put fanservice EVERYWHERE.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 10 juillet 2011 - 07:09 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Garrus' Theme Song?

[ElitePinecone]

RinjiRenee wrote...
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I could be entirely wrong, yes. We'll just have to wait and see 

Either way I'm happy that s/s content is in the game at all.

A few months ago there was no hope of it ever being an option for Shepard, and it's great that at the very least we'll have this choice. 

[ElitePinecone]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Garrus' Theme Song?

How have I not seen this before?!
 

[bleetman]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Be that as it may (and I completely agree), Bioware are very, very jumpy at the moment when it comes to fan reaction. 

I'm not saying they'd want to avoid controversy (although they probably would), but rather that a lot of people have been angsty about the idea of former characters being open to s/s romances. 

Mainly "DUDEBRO GARRUS", not so much Kaidan, and never f/f options (surprise...). 

I'm just saying Bioware may want to err on the side of caution by making only new characters avalable flr s/s. 

Such an action - throwing in a token new s/s character into a game with an already extensive character pool - would only serve to confirm that they're adding in s/s for the sake of fan appeasement, rather than because they feel it's something genuinely worth including.

(Anders theme song trololol?)

(...)

Modifié par bleetman, 10 juillet 2011 - 07:22 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

bleetman wrote...
Such an action - throwing in a token new s/s character into a game with an already extensive character pool - would only serve to confirm that they're adding in s/s for the sake of fan appeasement, rather than because they feel it's something genuinally worth including.

Pretty much this.

[ElitePinecone]

^ I can see that argument, yeah. It's actually not something I'd considered before.