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[ilovemesometurian]

My manshep wants Garrus and James. My femshep wants Kasumi!

It's easy to realize that games so big can't include EVERYTHING but I'm glad Mass Effect is allowing this. People deserve it.

Well I do have 30 Shepards. They all want somebody =D

[Chun Hei]

Quething wrote...

Actually it would have worked better if Nef was, in fact, a hardened manipulator herself. For one, it's more consistent with her other targets, particularly Shepard; for two it makes her less sympathetic, with makes Morinth marginally more sympathetic, which makes choosing Morinth over Samara marginally less seriously wtf would you even give us that choice.

Sadly that would make Nerf less sympathetic and Bioware probably felt that would not make Morinth evil enough. Poor poor Nerf. If Nerf was a tough girl people could say she was asking for it. Sad but true. The way a "naughty" girl is "asking" to be raped.

[Chun Hei]

[quote]AngelicMachinery wrote...

[quote]Chun Hei wrote...

EDIT the stupid.

This is the punch line of far too many sex based jokes for my taste,  and,  it has yet too manage a giggle once.

[/quote]

I am sorry.

Modifié par Chun Hei, 12 juillet 2011 - 10:46 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Quething wrote...

But it's stupid, because it would be really easy to justify Shepard as attractive to Morinth for being Nef's diametric opposite. Nef was a naive victim, someone Morinth could drain dry for the lulz. Shepard, on the other hand, is a fellow predator - a challenge.

I always thought it was funny that Morinth spent weeks and weeks seducing Nef, but only wasted about two hours on Shepard.

"A shy, naive, bi-curious art student? Better take my time."

[weeks later]

"Well, that was fun. Who to seduce next? Oh, wow, Commander Shepard! Yeah, I got this."

Maybe she seduced Shepard as quickly as possible just to see if she could... Yeah, maybe for the challenge, whatever, I guess I can understand that...

But I cannot forgive the fact... that she didn't even take Shepard into her bed! She just figured, "Eh, whatever, I'll do Shepard right here."

'Cmon, Morinth, if you're gonna sway a gay man, at least put some effort into it.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 12 juillet 2011 - 03:39 .

[lietk12]

GRUNT: I'd like to see your full thresher maw.

[shepskisaac]

Did you guys see TeenZombie's new sig banner? xDDD

[Chun Hei]

Wrex and Grunt are quints and they cannot wait to prove it to Shepard. Fan boys can finally have their threesome.

[KawaiiKatie]

IsaacShep wrote...

Did you guys see TeenZombie's new sig banner? xDDD

Oh man, that's beautiful! Though it makes me feel like a gay Cyclon is scanning me....

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 12 juillet 2011 - 03:49 .

[bleetman]

Quething wrote...

Actually it would have worked better if Nef was, in fact, a hardened manipulator herself. For one, it's more consistent with her other targets, particularly Shepard; for two it makes her less sympathetic, with makes Morinth marginally more sympathetic, which makes choosing Morinth over Samara marginally less seriously wtf would you even give us that choice.

Hah, yes. They couldn't really have been any less subtle about driving home the whole "Morinth is a monster!" thing without physically enscribing it on a mallet and bludgeoning the player with it. I'm almost surprised Nef didn't part time as a volunteer worker at a soup kitchen for orphaned kittens. Do kittens eat soup? I don't know.

[Augoeides]

bleetman wrote...

Quething wrote...

Actually it would have worked better if Nef was, in fact, a hardened manipulator herself. For one, it's more consistent with her other targets, particularly Shepard; for two it makes her less sympathetic, with makes Morinth marginally more sympathetic, which makes choosing Morinth over Samara marginally less seriously wtf would you even give us that choice.

Hah, yes. They couldn't really have been any less subtle about driving home the whole "Morinth is a monster!" thing without physically enscribing it on a mallet and bludgeoning the player with it. I'm almost surprised Nef didn't part time as a volunteer worker at a soup kitchen for orphaned kittens. Do kittens eat soup? I don't know.

'

Little did the kitchen know that Morinth was the murderer of those kittens parents AND sent the corpses to the kitchen in meaty form for use in the soup. Thus ensuring we can perceive her as nothing less than a monster.

[Jimmy Fury]

Not to go completely off topic but just a wee follow up to this morning's discussion of sci-fi having anti-gay tendencies. Aaron Ashmore's new character in Warehouse 13 is gay.
I really think sci-fi is getting better about it. It's always been weird to me that the defining genre of outcasts has been so hesitant to acknowledge its gay fanbase.

[xassantex]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Quething wrote...

But it's stupid, because it would be really easy to justify Shepard as attractive to Morinth for being Nef's diametric opposite. Nef was a naive victim, someone Morinth could drain dry for the lulz. Shepard, on the other hand, is a fellow predator - a challenge.

I always thought it was funny that Morinth spent weeks and weeks seducing Nef, but only wasted about two hours on Shepard.

"A shy, naive, bi-curious art student? Better take my time."

[weeks later]

"Well, that was fun. Who to seduce next? Oh, wow, Commander Shepard! Yeah, I got this."

Maybe she seduced Shepard as quickly as possible just to see if she could... Yeah, maybe for the challenge, whatever, I guess I can understand that...

But I cannot forgive the fact... that she didn't even take Shepard into her bed! She just figured, "Eh, whatever, I'll do Shepard right here."

'Cmon, Morinth, if you're gonna sway a gay man, at least put some effort into it.

perhaps it's because Shepard is also out to get her .
i chuckle every time i choose the paragon choice " Surprise! " when Morinth is just about to darin him . 

Modifié par xassantex, 12 juillet 2011 - 04:38 .

[Augoeides]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Not to go completely off topic but just a wee follow up to this morning's discussion of sci-fi having anti-gay tendencies. Aaron Ashmore's new character in Warehouse 13 is gay.
I really think sci-fi is getting better about it. It's always been weird to me that the defining genre of outcasts has been so hesitant to acknowledge its gay fanbase.

People tend to ignore the fact that they hypocritically alleinate another minority.

The world still has anti-tendencies, and not so much from people themselves, but it's a political anti-gay that is liberally applied to things even if not pertinent to the situation.

eg. the word 'gay' being removed from a children's song being taught in a school classroom(in the context of gay = happy) which ended up horrifying parents and the teacher honestly thought they were doing the right thing morally and politically by trying to avoid the storm around the word.

[Trevbo]

*Reads 4 pages to get caught up*

You all really do make it difficult to stay up to date in here. But I'm not really complaining.

And all the stuff about the Asari, and Samara's loyalty mission is really interesting. Makes me want to write a paper on it in one of my sociology classes...

I do like lot's of aspects of BW writing in Mass Effect. I like the way they have borrowed ideas from other sci-fi, The Quarians and the Geth are very reminiscient of battlestar galactica, and Rachni are like the Hive Queens from Ender's Game, but they usually put a twist on it to keep things interesting. This is the reason Legion is one of my favourite characters, and I loved how he forced players to reevaluate something they thought they already understood. That not all geth are bad. That you can't judge a whole demographic based on a few thousand brainwashed constructs.

Too bad they sometimes send the opposite message with their use of Asari. The Asari dancers really point out how the game is really written for straight males gaze.

And I don't mean to make such long posts. By their is always so much to comment on when I come back to check the blogs.

[ArawnNox]

Related to recent discussion:
Yeah, I liked Samara's loyalty mission on the grounds that it was a break from the usual "Blow it up with a happy grin" missions. Though, I was cool with a lot of it because I was playing a les!Shep and hadn't considered it from the other side of the fence. I feel bad for anyone who was playing a shep (or their player) who isn't into women. Heck, does the topic even come up for femsheps, if they might be uncomfortable with it? Granted, you ARE acting as bait, but it's kinda... eh.
(and I can't imagine who would side with Mornith at the end, in good conscience. I mean, yeah, they really demonize her as a sociopath/psychopath. Most people I see who chose Mornith usually did it for the lulz or they were playing ****holeShep, which is really frikken weak)

[ElitePinecone]

bleetman wrote...
Hah, yes. They couldn't really have been any less subtle about driving home the whole "Morinth is a monster!" thing without physically enscribing it on a mallet and bludgeoning the player with it. I'm almost surprised Nef didn't part time as a volunteer worker at a soup kitchen for orphaned kittens. Do kittens eat soup? I don't know.

It's probably fair to say that the 'Morinth is a monster' thing was overdone, but they clearly really did want to emphasise her complete lack of remorse or empathy, and perhaps her addiction to the power of killing. 

I'm still troubled by Nef's 'freak' line (and the fact that the lesbian relationship was treated as seductive or 'thrilling'), but it was one of the more mature storylines in the game and I appreciated a mission that wasn't either macho chest-beating or mindless combat. 

[ArawnNox]

ElitePinecone wrote...

bleetman wrote...
Hah, yes. They couldn't really have been any less subtle about driving home the whole "Morinth is a monster!" thing without physically enscribing it on a mallet and bludgeoning the player with it. I'm almost surprised Nef didn't part time as a volunteer worker at a soup kitchen for orphaned kittens. Do kittens eat soup? I don't know.

It's probably fair to say that the 'Morinth is a monster' thing was overdone, but they clearly really did want to emphasise her complete lack of remorse or empathy, and perhaps her addiction to the power of killing. 

I'm still troubled by Nef's 'freak' line (and the fact that the lesbian relationship was treated as seductive or 'thrilling'), but it was one of the more mature storylines in the game and I appreciated a mission that wasn't either macho chest-beating or mindless combat.

I don't recall the entire context of the "freak" line, but I seem to remember interpreting it as having to do with her liason with an alien rather than a woman.
Humanity only having reached the stars in... what... that past hundred years or so? I can see xenophilia being the current "deviant" thing to do. Not that it ever gets mentioned, much, if at all.

[KawaiiKatie]

The "freak" line is definitely a same-sex thing. The context was something to the effect of...

"Hey diary! Am I a freak? Morinth is a girl like me, but I can't stop thinking about her! We kissed tonight!"

I agree that xenophilia SHOULD be the "deviant" thing for humans to do in the Mass Effect universe, but more often than not, these games seem to imply that homosexuality is the one thing TRULY outside the norm.

[Abispa]

The one saving grace with the Horizon dialog is that the VS pretty much assumes your relationship is over unless Shepard says it isn't, I assume, in ME3. That way I'll be spared the damn cat fights of Baldur's Gate II. I hope.

Still, I'm not sure how it will be handled if you want to be a two-timer trying to have it both ways.

[bleetman]

Abispa wrote...

Still, I'm not sure how it will be handled if you want to be a two-timer trying to have it both ways.

I imagine Ashley's response would involve a rifle butt to the face.

[Abispa]

elektrego wrote...

I really would love an Asari romance scene that is nothing more than two MINDS f*cking each other leaving the body completely out of it.

That's never really been made clear, and I suppose it's intentional. ME1 does make it look like something physical is going on, and the game, as far as I know 'cause I don't read all the damn codex. The only thing I know is that no semen is need for PROCREATION, but that doesn't seem the rule out the physicall for stimulation.

[Abispa]

bleetman wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Still, I'm not sure how it will be handled if you want to be a two-timer trying to have it both ways.

I imagine Ashley's response would involve a rifle butt to the face.

We can only hope.

[bleetman]

I'd want to know what kind of range the Asari have with their mind-sex thing, myself. Face to face? A few paces apart? Or could two of them start mentally doing it from across the room during a boring meeting, say.

I like that image, personally.