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[Abispa]

IsaacShep wrote...
Understand your point perfectly, but the thing is that it already happened that Kaidan assumed Shep is straight. We already know it so we have to deal with what's already written in ME1. I explain to myself that it's like with handedness. Due to the fact 90% of people are right-handed, it's the general assumption that people you will meet will be right-handed. Being left-handed ain't a bit of a problem for us in the year 2011, but due to the fact it's a small minority it's just the way people act, assuming what they think is the most likely.

And, sadly, the Nef comments in ME2 show that homosexuality still is not only less common than heterosexuality in the ME universe, but still isn't fully accept by that fictional human community.

[Abispa]

Ryzaki wrote...

As long as Kaidan doesn't try to move in my Shep's quarters there won't be an issue.

He tries it and someone's getting shot.

I'm sure Kaidan WILL move in and feed the fish and clean the Space Hamster's cage. Then they'll lie in bed together cuddling as they discuss how they're going to spend the money they get SELLING LEGION! Bwa ha ha ha!

[Ryzaki]

Abispa wrote...
I'm sure Kaidan WILL move in and feed the fish and clean the Space Hamster's cage. Then they'll lie in bed together cuddling as they discuss how they're going to spend the money they get SELLING LEGION! Bwa ha ha ha!

*reloads her Locust*

I'd run if I were you. I have cryo ammo so your death will not be pretty. 

[Ryzaki]

Abispa wrote...
And, sadly, the Nef comments in ME2 show that homosexuality still is not only less common than heterosexuality in the ME universe, but still isn't fully accept by that fictional human community.

Really. The issue should've been the fact that there weren't the same species. Not that they were both female. 

[Sshodan]

@ Chun Hei
Can't resist this, sorry But if I so the man I love bing shot to death, and after two years he shows up working with Al Qaeda I'd be terrified to my bones, because it will meant that Al Qaeda had him for two years - weak, wounded near death, for a man I love to work with organization like that they'll have to torture, brainwash and other ways break him for two years straight, the very thought of what he had to go trough to end up like this would make me have nightmares for years. Stockholm syndrome is not a pretty thing, especially reinforced like that for two years.
What I would do? First and foremost I'll make sure I don't loose contact with him if I can help it - as long as I know what he is doing and where he is there is a chance that I:
1. Will be able to prevent any acts of terrorism he may be involved it. If he is setting up bombs I want to know where to be able to report it in time.
2. Hopefully I'll be able to reach him and make him trust me enough to start doubting his programming". Naive I know, but I would try anyway if I loved him.
3. If I can separate him form his cell I have a chance to call in mental ward professionals (if I have a legal right), or if he is military I'd contact his people - they know what kind of mental help war prisoners and people "brainwashed" by Al Qaeda need.
In any case I'll make sure that he knows that I'm there for him, and I love him. I'd do my best to give him a reason to go back. Yes it will be painful, dangerous and most likely woun't end well, but someone I love deserves that from me - if I can't find it in my self to try to help him than it wasn't really love to begin with. You don't live people you love if they are sick, if they are mad, if they make a wrong choice - you stand by them and do you best to make it better.
So no. For me VS is nothing but a hysterical teenager in behavior.

Back on topic:
The s/s option will actually renew my interest to the character - if Shep and VS are not yet involved before Horizon I would not hold VS to the same standards, especially if they where conflicted and confused about their relationships with Shep. A friend is not obliged to stick his or her neck for Shep quite as much as a loved one. Getting together after Sheps resurrection may be a very satisfying finish for the feelings that where brewing slowly under the surface for years

[shepskisaac]

Abispa wrote...

And, sadly, the Nef comments in ME2 show that homosexuality still is not only less common than heterosexuality in the ME universe, but still isn't fully accept by that fictional human community.

Exactly, Nef's comment proves homosexual relations are still something surprising at least for humans.

Ryzaki wrote...

As long as Kaidan doesn't try to move in my Shep's quarters there won't be an issue.

He tries it and someone's getting shot.

He won't. But he will mistake Shep's quarters for his one night at the Normandy and your Shep will come back, ready to take some shower just to stumble upon this in his bathroom:

Modifié par IsaacShep, 17 juillet 2011 - 08:42 .

[Abispa]

@ IssacShep -- Great. Another guy who rubs Nair on his chest. I'm sure Chun will give it "thumbs up" though.

[shepskisaac]

What's a Nair? xD

[Sshodan]

Abispa wrote...

And, sadly, the Nef comments in ME2 show that homosexuality still is not only less common than heterosexuality in the ME universe, but still isn't fully accept by that fictional human community.

This is BAD - humanity can handle someone living with an alien, but gods forbid it'll be someone of the same gender? I certainly hope that is was a misunderstanding... I mean seriously Shep banging Garrus - who is Turian, a recent enemy of human race and is not even fully physically comparable with Shep is ok, but a same sex romance is weird??? Mass Effect humans need to re evaluate their priorities. Bit time.

Modifié par Sshodan, 17 juillet 2011 - 08:51 .

[Abispa]

IsaacShep wrote...

What's a Nair? xD

http://www.naircare....en/landing.aspx

[Cuddlezarro]

He won't. But he will mistake Shep's quarters for his one night at the Normandy and your Shep will come back, ready to take some shower just to stumble upon this in his bathroom: pic

he does this im pretty sure id toss his naked ass out into the hallway and tell him to stay the hell out of my bedroom

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 17 juillet 2011 - 08:54 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Its getting a tad risque in here.

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...
He won't. But he will mistake Shep's quarters for his one night at the Normandy and your Shep will come back, ready to take some shower just to stumble upon this in his bathroom: *snip*

And my Shepard will throw his naked ass into the hallway. Right before dragging Vega inside. 

[Cuddlezarro]

Ryzaki wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
He won't. But he will mistake Shep's quarters for his one night at the Normandy and your Shep will come back, ready to take some shower just to stumble upon this in his bathroom: *snip*

And my Shepard will throw his naked ass into the hallway. Right before dragging Vega inside. 

ok add that to the end of my last post lol

[Markun120]

Looking forward to seeing how they implement this!

Do we have any idea when more information will be released?

[shepskisaac]

Ferris95 wrote...

@IsaacShep

I'll be in my bunk 0.0

Take your time hehe

[Finis Valorum]

Sshodan wrote...

The "I think he is straight so I better be quite" mentality is a byproduct of people reacting badly or simply being uncomfortable with being an object of a romantic interest by the person of the same gender.
It would never occur to me to "stay quiet" because the person that I like may be gay. Even if he had a boyfriend I'd let him know, because if I'm wrong I don't have anything to loose - he'll say "sorry hon, but I'm gay" and well continue bing friends. But if I don't ask I miss out on the chance to find love in case he is actually bi. I would like to think that in a future the same would be accurate for the same sex couples situation.

Sure with normal friends or aquitances I don't have any sort of professional relationship with that's the sensible course of action, nothing ventured nothing gained and also very little to lose but when I've also got a professional relationship with the person in question to consider it all becomes much more complicated especially if the professional relationship is not an equal one and I hold the junior position, like Kaidan with Shep. Flirting let alone actually sleeping with the boss raises all sorts of awkward complications, plus if my clumsy advances were to be rejected I would actually stand to lose something like my job or any real chance of a promotion or even just getting good references or reviews (and the accompanying perks and bonuses).
And I don't even have any experience with the situation in the military but I imagine the hierarchy is by neccessity far more strict than anything in the private sector.
In short to even consider sleeping with the boss I'd need some pretty clear and unambiguous signals that he was into me and even then it's always a risky proposition at best so I can understand Kaidan waiting for Shep to make the first move, at least in ME1.

The situation in ME3 could be more interesting, Kaidan's a Spectre in his own right now and may or may not technically outrank his former Commander thus making the relationship dynamic more equal and neccessitating less caution on his part  but unfortunately due to the bad reaction to one line from Anders in DA2 he's likely to still never let us know unless we come onto him even more forcefully than femshep hits on Jacob. And that is all assuming his s/s content won't get cut again, which it likely will.

And to top it all if we take the Nef line seriously then homosexual attraction is a bigger issue for humans in ME2 than xenophilia. I'd like to think that if I were to have any sort of amourous affair with an actual alien entity the whole "but he's an alien" would draw much more attention than "but you're both male" then again the religions that have spawned most of todays homophobia might actually turn out to be more accomodating towards "straight" relationships with aliens than gay relationships within even our own species, we won't know until we actually make first contact since religion is by definition irrational.

[Sshodan]

@ Finis Valorum
Good point, theoretically, but Kaiden is not bothered by his professional standing with female Shep now, is he? In that case he should not have been bothered with it in maleShep case either. The professionalism of having a relationship in one chain of command in military is a whole other topic, but the fact remains - it happens with heterosexual romance, if we asume that homosexuality in itself is not a big deal and perfectly acceptable in ME, as I would prefer to think, than there should not be any difference for there romance line and s/s romance should have had the same chance to happen
If s/s relationships are a taboo and less acceptable than interspecies ones it will make me very, very sad. The "I was afraid to tell you that I like you for 3 years because I did not know if you are a homophobe and if me loving you will be considered offensive" scenario is so painful it makes me wince. That kind of "forbidden love" will be the last thing I want to engage in - it will make Shep or Kaiden(Ash) being gay or bi to much of a big deal for me.

[Cuddlezarro]

you know what i would like? if the writers of arcade and veronica wrote the S/S romances in this game I really like those characters in new vegas not because they are gay but because they happened to be normal people who just happened to like the same gender also they where badass without being GoW like "badass" (I really honestly dont get why people say vega is like a gow soldier when he isnt remotely that roided up and we still dont know much about him)

edit:also id like some light armor like jacob wears for me shepard since hes an infiltrator and bulky doesnt really suit him plus im a 24 year old who likes man ass

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 17 juillet 2011 - 09:36 .

[shepskisaac]

Sshodan wrote...

@ Finis Valorum
Good point, theoretically, but Kaiden is not bothered by his professional standing with female Shep now, is he? In that case he should not have been bothered with it in maleShep case either. The professionalism of having a relationship in one chain of command in military is a whole other topic, but the fact remains - it happens with heterosexual romance, if we asume that homosexuality in itself is not a big deal and perfectly acceptable in ME, as I would prefer to think, than there should not be any difference for there romance line and s/s romance should have had the same chance to happen
If s/s relationships are a taboo and less acceptable than interspecies ones it will make me very, very sad. The "I was afraid to tell you that I like you for 3 years because I did not know if you are a homophobe and if me loving you will be considered offensive" scenario is so painful it makes me wince. That kind of "forbidden love" will be the last thing I want to engage in - it will make Shep or Kaiden(Ash) being gay or bi to much of a big deal for me.

But this is not about Kaidan fearing Shep is a homophobe, it's about Kaidan thinking "Shep is straight so I have zero chance by default with him".

[Ryzaki]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

you know what i would like? if the writers of arcade and veronica wrote the S/S romances in this game I really like those characters in new vegas not because they are gay but because they happened to be normal people who just happened to like the same gender also they where badass without being GoW like "badass" (I really honestly dont get why people say vega is like a gow soldier when he isnt remotely that roided up and we still dont know much about him)

edit:also id like some light armor like jacob wears for me shepard since hes an infiltrator and bulky doesnt really suit him plus im a 24 year old who likes man ass

 

I'd like some lighter armor for my adepts too. Though there are plenty of decent asshots from Shep now. 

[Finis Valorum]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

edit:also id like some light armor like jacob wears for me shepard since hes an infiltrator and bulky doesnt really suit him plus im a 24 year old who likes man ass

It would be nice if Bioware gave MShep and Kaidan catsuits, or at least a "combat casual" outfit to wear in ME3 (since they seem dead set on giving every female one) but you can actually give yourself Jacob's Cerberus suit quite easily in ME2, all my Adepts wear it and they look quite fetching in it if I do say so myself.

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 17 juillet 2011 - 09:55 .

[Cuddlezarro]

Ryzaki wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

you know what i would like? if the writers of arcade and veronica wrote the S/S romances in this game I really like those characters in new vegas not because they are gay but because they happened to be normal people who just happened to like the same gender also they where badass without being GoW like "badass" (I really honestly dont get why people say vega is like a gow soldier when he isnt remotely that roided up and we still dont know much about him)

edit:also id like some light armor like jacob wears for me shepard since hes an infiltrator and bulky doesnt really suit him plus im a 24 year old who likes man ass

 

I'd like some lighter armor for my adepts too. Though there are plenty of decent asshots from Shep now. 

the ass/body shots could be better with tighter looking clothing though

It would be nice if Bioware gave MShep and Kaidan catsuits, or at least a
"combat casual" outfit to wear in ME3 (since they seem dead set on
giving every female one) but you can actually give yourself Jacob's
Cerberus suit quite easily in ME2, all my Adepts wear it and they looks
quite fetching in it if I do say so myself.

oh I know iv done it before though personally id like to have a non cerberus version that was customizable like normal armor

also wish some one could mod Jacobs shirtless model to be able to be used by shepard =3

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 17 juillet 2011 - 09:53 .

[Finis Valorum]

Cuddlezarro wrote...


personally id like to have a non cerberus version that was customizable like normal armor

As would I, unfortunately it seems far more likely that Shepards armour in ME3 will take after Vega's so that MShep at least will be forced to look like a tank or miniature mecha since that's where the series seems to be headed.
I think MSheps current default armour choices will look downright casual compared to what we'll be forced to endure in ME3.