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[Cuddlezarro]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

Nice knowing you. Do not worry though. I am sure you will be able to see the important videos on YouTube.

I'm convince BW won't release the game without a toggle of some sort so until the game is release and I know for sure, I'll still be around the forums.  I have however cancelled my preorder.  Thank you.

how can you be convinced there will be a toggle when none of biowares other games have had a toggle for such things? looks like you wont be getting the game to me

[ArawnNox]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

LOL. Good riddance. 

Notice how you didn't answer the question.  Your Petty.

*you're.
Now it's petty.

Seriously, a sexuality toggle for all the NPCs in the game is offensive. It'd be up there with a toggle for ethnicity because someone might night want blacks/asians/hispanics in their in-game universe.

Not to mention that would be yet another variable to program in checks for. It's not like you just type in a single line of code. It has to check for a variable every time dialogue comes up. That's what leads to the bugs that caused Lelianna's ninjamancing and Zevran's missing dialogue.

[paptschik]

[quote]AngelicMachinery wrote...

[quote]Cuddlezarro wrote...


And then once you toggle Shepard to be naked I'll toggle Shepard for [John Barrowman].

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agreed

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I  Captian Jack Harkness.

It's nice too see a Queer badass.
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Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

[devSin]

jlb524 wrote...

I just want a toggle to remove idiotic plots.

Shepard's 'death'...working for Cerberus...

Oh, God, this.

It was all I could do to play a terrorist all the way to the end. The only thing I wanted to do when the SR2 was turned over was to fly straight to Alliance space, give them the keys, and have all the terrorists on board detained.

[Cuddlezarro]

paptschik wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...


And then once you toggle Shepard to be naked I'll toggle Shepard for [John Barrowman].

agreed




I  Captian Jack Harkness.

It's nice too see a Queer badass.

Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

yes hes what i would call omnisexual

though john Barrowman is indeed a happily married gay guy

[ArawnNox]

paptschik wrote...

Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

"Pansexual" seems to be the new buzzword. How that differs from bisexuality I have yet to find an adiquate answer for.

Modifié par ArawnNox, 20 juillet 2011 - 12:40 .

[shepskisaac]

ArawnNox wrote...
Not to mention that would be yet another variable to program in checks for. It's not like you just type in a single line of code. It has to check for a variable every time dialogue comes up. That's what leads to the bugs that caused Lelianna's ninjamancing and Zevran's missing dialogue.

And? You think such a petty thing as bugs is more important than whinewhinewhinewhine's ability to stop the pixels hitting on the pixles he controls and thus make him more secure about his sexuality? This is outrageous!

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 juillet 2011 - 12:41 .

[paptschik]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

yes hes what i would call omnisexual

though john Barrowman is indeed a happily married gay guy

Ah, thank you, wasn't sure if that term really was...well, was an actually used term.

And didn't know he was married. Not that much of a Torchwood fan...haven't even seen all that much of it (or Dr. Who for that matter...I prefer Primeval for reasons of dinosaurs)

[Jademoon121]

[quote]ArawnNox wrote...

[quote]paptschik wrote...

[quote]AngelicMachinery wrote...

[quote]Cuddlezarro wrote...


And then once you toggle Shepard to be naked I'll toggle Shepard for [John Barrowman].

[/quote]

agreed

[/quote]


I  Captian Jack Harkness.

It's nice too see a Queer badass.
[/quote]

Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

[/quote]

"Pansexual" seems to be the new buzzword. How that differs from bisexuality I have yet to find an adiquate answer for.

[/quote]


Bisexual= Likes guy parts and girl parts.

Pansexuals= Likes someone not for their parts.

[King Gigglez]

ArawnNox wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

"Pansexual" seems to be the new buzzword. How that differs from bisexuality I have yet to find an adiquate answer for.

Bisexuality is in terms of Male or Female, Pansexuality is in terms of, you love everyone and everything, Male, Female, Transgendered, and other types of people for their personality. if that makes sense.

Modifié par King Gigglez, 20 juillet 2011 - 12:42 .

[ArawnNox]

devSin wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I just want a toggle to remove idiotic plots.

Shepard's 'death'...working for Cerberus...

Oh, God, this.

It was all I could do to play a terrorist all the way to the end. The only thing I wanted to do when the SR2 was turned over was to fly straight to Alliance space, give them the keys, and have all the terrorists on board detained.

Then, if you spend the whole game badmouthing Cerberus, you get Paragon points... I'm begining to worry that my current Shep isnt going to have enough points in either direction to solve the loyalty confrontations.

[Siansonea]

 I wonder, is the discussion of a toggle even on-topic? 

[paptschik]

ArawnNox wrote...

"Pansexual" seems to be the new buzzword. How that differs from bisexuality I have yet to find an adiquate answer for.

Maybe it's related to the whole fictional non-humans situation?

[whywhywhywhy]

Blacklash93 wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

It's not offensive, it's stupid.

Pandering to irrational discomfort and disgust over optional content just encourages such demands and fears. That's not progress and it's certainly doing anyone any favors. It's sheltering people who need to learn not to be so sensitive over an optional romance.

Thank you for providing me with a answer of some sort. But I have to question "progress" in a video game ?  It's entertainment and just because same sex options were added to the game doesn't mean it should change what I've become accustom to playing. 

I'm not sensitive your assuming you know what I think or how I feel, you'd be wrong.  I simply want to understand why a option to to turn it on or off is "such a no no" to the community that desires the optional content.  They want it I'm fine with that but I do not, why expose me or others ?  Unless every dialog option is specifically labeled "Romantic" exploration of responses will undoubtly uncover the optional content.  So now I can't see every response a teammate might have or all of their dialog as I may trigger optional content I am uninterested in.  And some dialog options will have been replaced with the hopefully static Romantic tag where as in the past it would have been a Paragon, renegade or neutral response.

I find it highly hypocritical that those who desire the optional content wanted it and got it but now are against making it optional.

[Cuddlezarro]

ArawnNox wrote...

devSin wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I just want a toggle to remove idiotic plots.

Shepard's 'death'...working for Cerberus...

Oh, God, this.

It was all I could do to play a terrorist all the way to the end. The only thing I wanted to do when the SR2 was turned over was to fly straight to Alliance space, give them the keys, and have all the terrorists on board detained.

Then, if you spend the whole game badmouthing Cerberus, you get Paragon points... I'm begining to worry that my current Shep isnt going to have enough points in either direction to solve the loyalty confrontations.

my characters a renagon and I tend to go with just whats more natural to me be it renegade/neutral and paragon

never had problems with any checks outside of the morinth/samara choice

[paptschik]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Bisexual= Likes guy parts and girl parts.

Pansexuals= Likes someone not for their parts.

Or that. Thanks for explaining.

[ArawnNox]

King Gigglez wrote...

ArawnNox wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

"Pansexual" seems to be the new buzzword. How that differs from bisexuality I have yet to find an adiquate answer for.

Bisexuality is in terms of Male or Female, Pansexuality is in terms of, you love everyone and everything, Male, Female, Transgendered, and other types of people for their personality. if that makes sense.

I'll just chalk it up to perception. To me, Bisexuality inherantly implied you'd be with someone, regardless of gender/sex.

[paptschik]

Siansonea II wrote...

 I wonder, is the discussion of a toggle even on-topic? 

What's this "on-topic" thing you mention?

[Jademoon121]

I really feel the urge a thread to just outright ask Bioware to list us the LI's when they develop them, after reading some very entertaining threads. Eight months of mudslinging ins't worth it.

[MACharlie1]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

It's not offensive, it's stupid.

Pandering to irrational discomfort and disgust over optional content just encourages such demands and fears. That's not progress and it's certainly doing anyone any favors. It's sheltering people who need to learn not to be so sensitive over an optional romance.

Thank you for providing me with a answer of some sort. But I have to question "progress" in a video game ?  It's entertainment and just because same sex options were added to the game doesn't mean it should change what I've become accustom to playing. 

I'm not sensitive your assuming you know what I think or how I feel, you'd be wrong.  I simply want to understand why a option to to turn it on or off is "such a no no" to the community that desires the optional content.  They want it I'm fine with that but I do not, why expose me or others ?  Unless every dialog option is specifically labeled "Romantic" exploration of responses will undoubtly uncover the optional content.  So now I can't see every response a teammate might have or all of their dialog as I may trigger optional content I am uninterested in.  And some dialog options will have been replaced with the hopefully static Romantic tag where as in the past it would have been a Paragon, renegade or neutral response.

I find it highly hypocritical that those who desire the optional content wanted it and got it but now are against making it optional.

But dude. It IS optional! Don't select "I want you." My God...all romances are optional. It's silly and redudant to have toggle that already exists in-game. 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 20 juillet 2011 - 12:48 .

[Jademoon121]

ArawnNox wrote...

King Gigglez wrote...

ArawnNox wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Pfff, don't call him queer. Such limited views of sexuality would be insulting for the man. He's...he's....is there even a word for what he is? Omnisexual? That a real word?

"Pansexual" seems to be the new buzzword. How that differs from bisexuality I have yet to find an adiquate answer for.

Bisexuality is in terms of Male or Female, Pansexuality is in terms of, you love everyone and everything, Male, Female, Transgendered, and other types of people for their personality. if that makes sense.

I'll just chalk it up to perception. To me, Bisexuality inherantly implied you'd be with someone, regardless of gender/sex.

Sorry to say and I'm saying this in the most polite way capable in text, but you're wrong. You just described pansexuality, bisexualilty is when you're attracted to both sexes. Not necessarily in the same way, fashion, or intensity, but it's still about biological attraction.

[whywhywhywhy]

devSin wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?

To rational people?

And because you can't toggle women in your game. You can't toggle non-white races. What makes you think you should be able to toggle gays and lesbians?

If you don't want to experience certain content, you need to use your own internal toggle and choose not to pursue that content. If the mere existence of that content causes problems for you, then you may have some larger issues going on; a toggle in a game isn't going to resolve those, unfortunately.

Unfortunately for you your wrong, I assure you.  To be clear I think something is wrong with all of you who desire optional content(which is fine) but feel offended that it's optional. 

This is not about toggling gays and lesbians if a character is openly whatever that's fine.   What the toggle is asking for is a reformat of characters who were straight that are being requested as LI for S-S relationships to be turned off and on as to preserve the original story.  BTW toggle women ? toggle non whites ?  I think your the one with issues.

[King Gigglez]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

It's not offensive, it's stupid.

Pandering to irrational discomfort and disgust over optional content just encourages such demands and fears. That's not progress and it's certainly doing anyone any favors. It's sheltering people who need to learn not to be so sensitive over an optional romance.

Thank you for providing me with a answer of some sort. But I have to question "progress" in a video game ?  It's entertainment and just because same sex options were added to the game doesn't mean it should change what I've become accustom to playing. 

I'm not sensitive your assuming you know what I think or how I feel, you'd be wrong.  I simply want to understand why a option to to turn it on or off is "such a no no" to the community that desires the optional content.  They want it I'm fine with that but I do not, why expose me or others ?  Unless every dialog option is specifically labeled "Romantic" exploration of responses will undoubtly uncover the optional content.  So now I can't see every response a teammate might have or all of their dialog as I may trigger optional content I am uninterested in.  And some dialog options will have been replaced with the hopefully static Romantic tag where as in the past it would have been a Paragon, renegade or neutral response.

I find it highly hypocritical that those who desire the optional content wanted it and got it but now are against making it optional.

The reason why a toggle is offensive to some people (I am personally fine with it) is because that if you toggle peoples sexuality that is like saying that "I can't deal with you being gay so I don't want to work with you" If a character is gay, that doesn't mean you have to romance them, it is just that they prefer males orver females...It is always an option to have a gay romance, its just a character in a game... it is always an option whether or not you romance them or not. If that helps, the answer I read when it explained it delt with Segragation, which in part does make sense

[gamer_girl]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

It's not offensive, it's stupid.

Pandering to irrational discomfort and disgust over optional content just encourages such demands and fears. That's not progress and it's certainly doing anyone any favors. It's sheltering people who need to learn not to be so sensitive over an optional romance.

Thank you for providing me with a answer of some sort. But I have to question "progress" in a video game ?  It's entertainment and just because same sex options were added to the game doesn't mean it should change what I've become accustom to playing. 

I'm not sensitive your assuming you know what I think or how I feel, you'd be wrong.  I simply want to understand why a option to to turn it on or off is "such a no no" to the community that desires the optional content.  They want it I'm fine with that but I do not, why expose me or others ?  Unless every dialog option is specifically labeled "Romantic" exploration of responses will undoubtly uncover the optional content.  So now I can't see every response a teammate might have or all of their dialog as I may trigger optional content I am uninterested in.  And some dialog options will have been replaced with the hopefully static Romantic tag where as in the past it would have been a Paragon, renegade or neutral response.

I find it highly hypocritical that those who desire the optional content wanted it and got it but now are against making it optional.

We're not saying don't make them optional. We're saying make them optional in a way that won't cause any offense.

[whywhywhywhy]

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I'm against same sex relationships ingame if a toggle to turn off same sex relationships isn't implemented.

A toggle can be seen as offensive and BW already said it isn't happening. Therefore romance dialouge to only be initiated by Shep is a second option with little room for people to take offense.

Why is a toggle offensive ?  And to who ?  As it is Males and females get a toggle.  If BW doesn't implement a toggle that fine, I won't buy it.

LOL. Good riddance. 

Notice how you didn't answer the question.  Your Petty.

And you have bad grammar. *you're

oh noes!  I made a typo while watching tv talking to my wife and typing on the computer.    It's the end of the world.  :innocent: