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James2912 wrote...

Chill as a fellow straight male gamer, just win him over with pictures.

*pic snip*
See noone likes to be stereotyped. Now can we be friends? :P

But you're not The Straight Male Gamer. That one buys lesbian porn before marching in an anti-gay parade and thinks no one should recieve any content but him. Big difference between you and other intelligent straight male gamers (without the trademark) :D

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Aww but I want to be able to romance Vega on my male shep!

I want both Kaidan and Vega.

Well...actually it all depends on Vega' personality and voice actor lol.

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Finis Valorum wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

There's no doubt in my mind that both of them will be. I'm just worried we won't get any m/m Vega love. That would suck. 


While I'm worried we won't be able to get Kaidan.
And contrary to you my mind is filled with doubt about there being more than one m/m option.
If Bioware's only implementing one m/m Li for ME3 there's going to be disappointment no matter what though, which is I why I think they should go the all bi route unfortunately after DA2 I think the chances of that are rather slim.

Unfortunately for me, in this case, I think I'm far more likely to be disappointed than you are.



Well I don't see why they wouldn't make the aliens BI I mean aliens shouldn't be interested in humans in the first place (except the asari) if they are going to have hetero alien sex they might as well have same sex different species relationships .

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I... would... be... totally... stunned... if... Joker... weren't... an... option...

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IsaacShep wrote...

James2912 wrote...

Chill as a fellow straight male gamer, just win him over with pictures.

*pic snip*
See noone likes to be stereotyped. Now can we be friends? :P

But you're not The Straight Male Gamer. That one buys lesbian porn before marching in an anti-gay parade and thinks no one should recieve any content but him. Big difference between you and other intelligent straight male gamers (without the trademark) :D


Oh I know I just really wanted to use that picture. And that post gave me the excuse! 

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James2912 wrote...

Oh I know I just really wanted to use that picture. And that post gave me the excuse!

lmao, I think Phoenix Armor's cool. That pink ain't even eye-soaring or anything, just another color ;P

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Finis Valorum wrote...

While I'm worried we won't be able to get Kaidan.
And contrary to you my mind is filled with doubt about there being more than one m/m option.
If Bioware's only implementing one m/m Li for ME3 there's going to be disappointment no matter what though, which is I why I think they should go the all bi route unfortunately after DA2 I think the chances of that are rather slim.


No, no! We're in agreement! I have my mind filled with doubt about it too!

I just hope it isn't a copout, like giving us an alien or a cheap NPC like Chambers. Blegh!

I still want some Vega love. And I know it's not happening, but it'd be awesome if he was exclusively gay. D:

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Abispa wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Abispa wrote...

I'm not so sure. I'm sure the personal dialog will be different, the party conversations should be different, and the battle strategy should be different since Kaidan is a sentinel and Ashley is a blessed goddess of sex and destruction placed by Providence in human form to guide not only Shepard but all of humanity toward the path of salvation.

It may be just me, but I think your description of one of them is a tiny bit inaccurate. :whistle:


Kaidan's not a sentinel? It has been a while since I played ME1...

:o


No, you just missed the "unkillable bastion of tanking and righteous snark" part of Ashley's goddess portfolio.

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 In honor of the leak confirming gay kaiden dialogue. here you go:

http://t0.gstatic.co...gEGhL2NzA7c0D-g

What do you think Bioware is going to do with the *love* scenes? Are they going to do fade to black now because I hope they make them more like ME1.


* I have this pictue and a lot more saved from when I posted these to infuriate homophobes when the same sex news broke. It totally repels them like Off repels mosqiutos. 

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Quething wrote...

Abispa wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Abispa wrote...

I'm not so sure. I'm sure the personal dialog will be different, the party conversations should be different, and the battle strategy should be different since Kaidan is a sentinel and Ashley is a blessed goddess of sex and destruction placed by Providence in human form to guide not only Shepard but all of humanity toward the path of salvation.

It may be just me, but I think your description of one of them is a tiny bit inaccurate. :whistle:


Kaidan's not a sentinel? It has been a while since I played ME1...

:o


No, you just missed the "unkillable bastion of tanking and righteous snark" part of Ashley's goddess portfolio.


I'm sorry. I get confused sometimes. I get distracted when I remember that I actually got to see her naked.

;)

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Abispa wrote...

I... would... be... totally... stunned... if... Joker... weren't... an... option...


I will have my Shep get the Shepard dies ending if Joker's not an option. :crying:

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Do you think that if Shepard has more than one previous love-interest, the new ME3 love-interests will automatically reject Shepard for having "too much on his plate"?

Because the more I think about it, the more I really want to make a new Shepard who romances Ashley and Kelly and Miranda, but then dumps them all for a man in ME3. It would be hilarious to me. And kind of.... strangely satisfying. You see, I already have a gay male Shepard who has stayed single and lonely all through ME1 and ME2, but now I want to make a bisexual Shepard who says, "You know what? Fine, Bioware! I'll play your game! I'll romance my way through space and have galaxy-shaking sex with every woman I meet! And it'll be AWESOME! ....but then I'll dump them all for a man the moment one becomes available."

Oh yes, it would be amazing.

But do you think the Bioware writers will let me get away with it? Juggling that many romances... that's a lot of variables, a lot of state-checks, a lot of dialogue.... A part of me thinks that the new love-interests, regardless of gender, will simply turn Shepard down if he or she already has two or more love-interests. What do you think?

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I adore Kaidan and my main Shep has been pining after him since ME1 but ever since having seen Vega I've had doubts about who i want, I mean look at Vega's body, it;s shallow but... there's something alluring about a man who can break your back while you're screwing. Plus he'd totally be able to top Shep and I don't think Kaidan could...

@Isaac: Phoenix Armor is awesome <3 Name, appearance and effect <3

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Abispa wrote...

I... would... be... totally... stunned... if... Joker... weren't... an... option...

I would just be sad. I have my doubt defenses up for Joker. I want it, I don't expect it. I'll be sad but not at all surprised.

I do think he's the only male on board who nobody can say would be a retcon though. The closest they've ever gotten to even hinting at sexuality was something that sounded like porn noises.
And I know first hand that anime all sounds like porn when you hear it out of context. I could have sworn my old roommate watched hardcore hentai all day.
Nope.
Sailor Moon.
It was creepy. :blink:

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@ KawaiiKatie -- Or you'll wind up in Shepard's room near the end of the game with all of your love interests standing around like the threesome set-up in Jade Empire. And Wrex, lying on the couch, wearing a smoking jacket. Even if he died at Virmire.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Abispa wrote...

I... would... be... totally... stunned... if... Joker... weren't... an... option...


I will have my Shep get the Shepard dies ending if Joker's not an option. :crying:


I am still rooting for you Ryzaki! 

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Jimmy Fury wrote...

Abispa wrote...

I... would... be... totally... stunned... if... Joker... weren't... an... option...

I would just be sad. I have my doubt defenses up for Joker. I want it, I don't expect it. I'll be sad but not at all surprised.

I do think he's the only male on board who nobody can say would be a retcon though. The closest they've ever gotten to even hinting at sexuality was something that sounded like porn noises.
And I know first hand that anime all sounds like porn when you hear it out of context. I could have sworn my old roommate watched hardcore hentai all day.
Nope.
Sailor Moon.
It was creepy. :blink:


I find Sailor Moon ALMOST as creepy as "The Human Centipede."

:pinched:

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IsaacShep wrote...

James2912 wrote...

Chill as a fellow straight male gamer, just win him over with pictures.

*pic snip*
See noone likes to be stereotyped. Now can we be friends? :P

But you're not The Straight Male Gamer. That one buys lesbian porn before marching in an anti-gay parade and thinks no one should recieve any content but him. Big difference between you and other intelligent straight male gamers (without the trademark) :D


Wow... I have such an appreciation for David Gaider -- moreso than before.

Haha I loved reading this!! Everyone who is so anti s/s romances should read this and just accept what BW is trying to do.

#5744
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James2912 wrote...

What do you think Bioware is going to do with the *love* scenes? Are they going to do fade to black now because I hope they make them more like ME1.

I think they'll be more like ME1 love scenes. If the majority of sex scenes are between humans or Asari. If not, then unfortunately I predict the repeat of ME2 dry-humping, for the simple reason they won't bother designing and creating textures for full alien bodes of Tali, Garrus, Thane and possible other new species just for a 20 seconds sex scene.

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

Do you think that if Shepard has more than one previous love-interest, the new ME3 love-interests will automatically reject Shepard for having "too much on his plate"?

Because the more I think about it, the more I really want to make a new Shepard who romances Ashley and Kelly and Miranda, but then dumps them all for a man in ME3. It would be hilarious to me. And kind of.... strangely satisfying. You see, I already have a gay male Shepard who has stayed single and lonely all through ME1 and ME2, but now I want to make a bisexual Shepard who says, "You know what? Fine, Bioware! I'll play your game! I'll romance my way through space and have galaxy-shaking sex with every woman I meet! And it'll be AWESOME! ....but then I'll dump them all for a man the moment one becomes available."

Oh yes, it would be amazing.

But do you think the Bioware writers will let me get away with it? Juggling that many romances... that's a lot of variables, a lot of state-checks, a lot of dialogue.... A part of me thinks that the new love-interests, regardless of gender, will simply turn Shepard down if he or she already has two or more love-interests. What do you think?

I think they will make romancing even more characters incredibly difficult but for the sake of new content being accessible to players old and new of any timeline (sans dead Shep ones) I don't think you'll be locked out.

Or let me put it this way, you'll be locked out of relationships with them until you go through an extensive break-up procedure and showing of not interest while also preserving the break-upee's feelings (we don't want to give the new LI a reason to doubt your sincereity).

Just think of it as romancing Sky from Jade Empire, before he'd even consider it you had to make sure that Dawn Star explicitly knew you were friends and nothing more, and tell Silk Fox to stop being a **** and ******-off.

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Aww but I want to be able to romance Vega on my male shep!

I want both Kaidan and Vega.

Well...actually it all depends on Vega' personality and voice actor lol.


Agreed.

Augoeides wrote...

I adore Kaidan and my main Shep has been pining after him since ME1 but ever since having seen Vega I've had doubts about who i want, I mean look at Vega's body, it;s shallow but... there's something alluring about a man who can break your back while you're screwing. Plus he'd totally be able to top Shep and I don't think Kaidan could... 

Agreed x 10. Minus the topping part.:P

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James2912 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Abispa wrote...

I... would... be... totally... stunned... if... Joker... weren't... an... option...


I will have my Shep get the Shepard dies ending if Joker's not an option. :crying:


I am still rooting for you Ryzaki! 


Thank you James. :)

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IsaacShep wrote...

James2912 wrote...

What do you think Bioware is going to do with the *love* scenes? Are they going to do fade to black now because I hope they make them more like ME1.

I think they'll be more like ME1 love scenes. If the majority of sex scenes are between humans or Asari. If not, then unfortunately I predict the repeat of ME2 dry-humping, for the simple reason they won't bother designing and creating textures for full alien bodes of Tali, Garrus, Thane and possible other new species just for a 20 seconds sex scene.


I wonder also if they have bit off more they can chew with all the romancable characters. I hope these romances are great it really adds  to the whole space opera vibe I get when I play ME. And adds a lot of replayablity.

And this is a  MATURE game so they should push their limits.

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Augoeides wrote...

I think they will make romancing even more characters incredibly difficult but for the sake of new content being accessible to players old and new of any timeline (sans dead Shep ones) I don't think you'll be locked out.

Or let me put it this way, you'll be locked out of relationships with them until you go through an extensive break-up procedure and showing of not interest while also preserving the break-upee's feelings (we don't want to give the new LI a reason to doubt your sincereity).

Just think of it as romancing Sky from Jade Empire, before he'd even consider it you had to make sure that Dawn Star explicitly knew you were friends and nothing more, and tell Silk Fox to stop being a **** and ******-off.


And that would be fair enough! I just fear that after my Shepard breaks ties with Ashley, Kelly and Miranda, the male love-interest won't want Shepard, because he'll think that Shepard is a player and a heartbreaker.

...or he'll be really flattered and say, "Wow, you must really like me, since you dumped all of those women!"

.....it could go either way, I think.

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I think they will make romancing even more characters incredibly difficult but for the sake of new content being accessible to players old and new of any timeline (sans dead Shep ones) I don't think you'll be locked out.

Or let me put it this way, you'll be locked out of relationships with them until you go through an extensive break-up procedure and showing of not interest while also preserving the break-upee's feelings (we don't want to give the new LI a reason to doubt your sincereity).

Just think of it as romancing Sky from Jade Empire, before he'd even consider it you had to make sure that Dawn Star explicitly knew you were friends and nothing more, and tell Silk Fox to stop being a **** and ******-off.


And that would be fair enough! I just fear that after my Shepard breaks ties with Ashley, Kelly and Miranda, the male love-interest won't want Shepard, because he'll think that Shepard is a player and a heartbreaker.

...or he'll be really flattered and say, "Wow, you must really like me, since you dumped all of those women!"

.....it could go either way, I think.


Perhaps it could be both in game and the response you get is directly dependent on not only how you handle the break up but also how you approach a relationship with them, too much sex related flirting leads to your first response of Shepard the player, whereas some more emotional connection stuff would lead to the second response of 'wow you really like me'

@Foxhoud109: Yay agreement! /crosses fingers for toppage.
Vega is a man man, not just male but a man. /goes on rant about men needing to be men punctuated with exaspperated descriptions of steamy encounters and provocative hand gestures

Oooh, time to make some soup! :3

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