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[Ryzaki]

Shadow Broker files are here REGARDLESS of gender.

Right. I'm done here. AT this point you're trolling.

[rolson00]

Ryzaki wrote...


 As David Gaider said Romances are for EVERYONE not just the "straight males". 

yes ima straight male gamer & im for s/s both f/f and m/m that doesnt mean im going to be playing m/m romances but im not going to try and stop som1 else who does

Modifié par rolson00, 14 juin 2011 - 08:30 .

[KawaiiKatie]

octoberfire wrote...

1. NO character has been gay in a BioWare game. They were either straight or bisexual.

(Well... there's Juhani... though her sexuality technically still debatable... And though I wouldn't exactly chalk her up as huge "victory" for homosexual representation in games, since her implementation was bugged, I still hate to discount her.)


...AAAAAAANYWAY...

I'm kind of hoping for homosexual-restricted characters in ME3. Maybe James Vega and a new female? David Gaider once explained why Bioware favours bisexual characters over homosexual ones, and he made a reasonable, compelling argument, but I still can't help but hope that Mass Effect 3 will try to break the mold and give us some truly amazing homosexual heroes to look up to. (And inevitably romance!)

[Darkhour]

Ryzaki wrote...

So the straight people get access to everyone while the gay people get access to half? Yeah that's real fair. If it should be anything some should be straight, some should be GAY and some should be bisexual.

Doesn't have to be fair. It's not fair that there are no pedophilia options. It's the future right.  Why can't people be more progressive and acknowledge that age doesn't matter and two concenting human beings should be allowed to love who they want? That would be fair, no?

99% of the population is under no requirement to appease 1% of the population. Although I would agree that the bi-crap is rubbish. I would say there needs to be a gay character(s) that is only accessible in a s/s relatiopnship. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Darkhour wrote...

 
When she started flirting with Shepard.. and banged him. Liara saw that she digged Shepard since their days on the Normandy. Shadow broke files on her. Kelly's observations.  

Those files are there regardless of Shepard's gender.

Darkhour wrote...
When does Garrus "I can't tell a human male from female" Vakarian ever show any interest in human females other than the "femshep" relationship? When does Miranda show any distain toward bestiality? I guess she should be into Urz in ME3, right.  

I hope  you just didn't compare bisexuality with bestiality.  Or pedophilia for that matter.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 14 juin 2011 - 08:36 .

[fweilun]

I suggest everybody ignore Darkhour. Most of his posts seem to be instinctual and without careful thought i.e. he seems to be trolling. In fact, he completely ignored my cerebral rebuttal to one of his posts earlier on page 23.

EDIT: Seems like my post has been miscontrued as a "He does not agree with me, therefore he is troll" remark. 

I will rephrase:

"I suggest everybody ignore Darkhour. Most of his posts seem to be instinctual and without careful thought, with the intention of inciting an emotional and angry response from other posters."

Modifié par fweilun, 14 juin 2011 - 09:43 .

[bleetman]

RinjiRenee wrote...

I hope  you just didn't compare bisexuality with beastiality.  Or pedophilia for that matter.

Yeah, I stopped taking it seriously around that part, too.

[Ryzaki]

fweilun wrote...

I suggest everybody ignore Darkhour. Most of his posts seem to be instinctual and without careful thought i.e. he seems to be trolling. In fact, he completely ignored my cerebral rebuttal to one of his posts earlier on page 23.

I gotta agree with this. The posts are to incite anger. 

[shadowreflexion]

I have never seen this much passion. Lol But I had another thought to tide you over. Again, bear in mind this is an observation, nothing more. I read through the thread in its entirety and I just have to add a little into the Kaiden character. Please see what I write as just something written.

On the SS romance spectrum, should one assume that Kaiden can be a candidate for that since he shows a certain degree of uncomfort when you speak to him? Or even if he speaks softly does that an any way emasculate his character?

I hope that this topic of discussion can go on without running the risk of getting locked due to some crass remarks that I read because it clearly is a decent topic. However, on the subject of SS anyway, I think that's why the Asari are there and why they are really monogendered. I don't know.
But having options such as SS, Bi, or just all out homosexual should have been included from day one don't you think? It shouldn't come down to appealing to a group. I can understand if you didn't romance anyone through ME 1 and ME 2 then in ME 3, you have free reign if that makes sense. But since some have romanced characters and found that some didn't respond to the advances, should that be changed? Like we all know that Samara said no in ME 2 and if you tried to go forward, she left the room. In ME 3, should her self control be compromised because we want to romance her anyway?

Edit: I still stand beside the agree to disagree. lol

Modifié par shadowreflexion, 14 juin 2011 - 08:38 .

[jbblue05]

Ryzaki wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
If Bioware is caving into pressure from the gay crowd it would be a lot worse if straight people felt like they are forced to be gay  or play as someone of the opposite sex

I think Leliana was derailed into being interested in men. I knew deep down she was a lesbo, but was made straight to appease to straight crowd.

DA2 did not have an equal amount of LI's  4 for bisexuals 2 for straight and Gays.

:LI's will never be equal in a Bioware game unless characters are strictly gay and straight

Plus Majority rules most people that play Bioware's games are straight males

Oh? So it's better if the opposite is true? 

So instead of wanting gay or straight LIs you want to get all the toys and deny them to others. That's real nice. 

Majority rules? As David Gaider said Romances are for EVERYONE not just the "straight males". 

Are you inferring that I'm anti s/s romance?

I want Bioware to create characters the way they INTENDED for them to be.  At the rate Bioware is going all you have to do is complain and they will keep on changing characters to appease a certain crowd.  What is their is a HUGE anti s/s romance movement from a private interest group . Does Bioware eliiminate all s/s romancesthen? What if the Gay crowd demands a few characters be gay only?  Does Bioware give in?

Romances in DA2 were in favor of the Gay crowd that complained and wanted more options.

[Siansonea]

@Darkhour: You clearly misread the OP. You have been reported. Desist.

[Epic Legion]

fweilun wrote...

I suggest everybody ignore Darkhour. Most of his posts seem to be instinctual and without careful thought i.e. he seems to be trolling. In fact, he completely ignored my cerebral rebuttal to one of his posts earlier on page 23.

Yet another "he doesn't agree with us = he's a troll". I just love reading this funny topic.

[Eternal Dust]

Darkhour wrote...

*snip*

 

Oh Maker...

[GreenSoda]

Darkhour wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

So the straight people get access to everyone while the gay people get access to half? Yeah that's real fair. If it should be anything some should be straight, some should be GAY and some should be bisexual.

Doesn't have to be fair. It's not fair that there are no pedophilia options. It's the future right.  Why can't people be more progressive and acknowledge that age doesn't matter and two concenting human beings should be allowed to love who they want? That would be fair, no?

99% of the population is under no requirement to appease 1% of the population. Although I would agree that the bi-crap is rubbish. I would say there needs to be a gay character(s) that is only accessible in a s/s relatiopnship. 

Great troll. 10/10. Would rage again.

[jlb524]

CaptainIsabela wrote...

S/S crushes happen in r/l. Does it not make the game more true to life, which I believe has been a complaint of past romances for BW?

Well, some people want more NPC initated flirting while some don't and like to avoid ninjamancing.  

I tend to prefer the latter, as I can headcanon it that Garrus/Thane/Jacob doesn't like my FemShep sexually and also headcanon in my own flirting/crushes with those NPCs that my Shepard would actually be interested in.

[Cartims]

I wish everyone would remember that this is a GAME for OUR enjoyment, we have CHOICES because we all like DIFFERENT things, make your frigging CHOICE and play the frigging GAME YOUR WAY......DUH!!!!!!

[Darkhour]

bleetman wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Perhaps, but all of those actually do contradict previously established character traits.

Making Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, Tali, Zaeed, Kasumi, Jacob or Thane gay contradicts previously established traits.

No, it doesn't. They never outright say that they aren't, nor is such made irrefutably clear. A person who engages in bi-sexual relationships sort of confirms said bi-sexuality. A person engaging in one heterosexual relationship doesn't exclude the possibility of anything else.

I'd be curious as to why they didn't speak up about it before, but that's not a topic that's being blithely ignored here. Like I said, if it's probably handled and explained, I wouldn't consider it contradictory bludgeoning.

There is no way to explain how everyone in the god dmaned universe is gay.

I've tongue kissed a guy. I'm not gay and have no intention of pursuing a homosexual relationship. although, if a transexual looked enough like a woman amd I like her personality I would have no issue being in a relationship. There are plenty of people out there who have actually had sex with the same sex and are 100% heterosexual in their romantic relationships/psychology. So maybe Zevran was just unsure and trying something new for awhile. Have sex with 100's of women, but sex up a few men and he's gay for life?? No, it's obviously unclear what Zevran's sexuality is. Derp!

Would you be pissed if Bioware decided to rewrite his character and make him into something he's not to appease fundamentalist Christians?

Modifié par Darkhour, 14 juin 2011 - 08:41 .

[fweilun]

Epic Legion wrote...

fweilun wrote...

I suggest everybody ignore Darkhour. Most of his posts seem to be instinctual and without careful thought i.e. he seems to be trolling. In fact, he completely ignored my cerebral rebuttal to one of his posts earlier on page 23.

Yet another "he doesn't agree with us = he's a troll". I just love reading this funny topic.

Well, let me rephrase myself. 

"I suggest everybody ignore Darkhour. Most of his posts seem to be instinctual and without careful thought, with the intention of inciting an emotional and angry response from other posters."

Modifié par fweilun, 14 juin 2011 - 08:49 .

[Ryzaki]

jbblue05 wrote...
Are you inferring that I'm anti s/s romance?

I want Bioware to create characters the way they INTENDED for them to be.  At the rate Bioware is going all you have to do is complain and they will keep on changing characters to appease a certain crowd.  What is their is a HUGE anti s/s romance movement from a private interest group . Does Bioware eliiminate all s/s romancesthen? What if the Gay crowd demands a few characters be gay only?  Does Bioware give in?

Romances in DA2 were in favor of the Gay crowd that complained and wanted more options.

No but you do seem to think ra forbid the s/s people have the same amount of options. 

And if they intend certain characters to be gay? You just said there shouldn't be more gay options than bi ones. What huge anti s/s romance movement? I saw one group that hadn't even went past 200 members. Or has that changed? So it's okay to demand a character be straight only but not the reverse? 

Romances in DA2 were EQUAL they weren't in favor of any group (save those who don't care what gender they romanced in which case DAO had the same disparity). Ra forbid! Equal options! OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Really? <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 juin 2011 - 08:42 .

[KawaiiKatie]

CaptainIsabela wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...



I'm kind of hoping for homosexual-restricted characters in ME3. Maybe James Vega and a new female? David Gaider once explained why Bioware favours bisexual characters over homosexual ones, and he made a reasonable, compelling argument, but I still can't help but hope that Mass Effect 3 will try to break the mold and give us some truly amazing homosexual heroes to look up to. (And inevitably romance!)

I would hate to have to start a meaningless romance with someone over the course of one game. I know the characters..and want to romance Ash BECAUSE I know her

Oh, I can absolutely empathize, because I want to romance Kaidan, but if new romances are going to happen anyway, I kind of hope that there are homosexual-only options--perhaps one male and one female--just as there have been heterosexual-only options. Of course, I'll be completely content with bisexual-options, but in a way, I really, really want Mass Effect to give us a gay hero to look up to.

And I don't think that a new romance with a new character would be "meaningless"... If James Vega is the only male romance option for manShep, I'll gladly romance him, and it'll mean so much to my Shepard that he finally found someone to identify with, someone to confide in... I would love for that connection to come in the form of an old friend like Kaidan, but if it comes in the arms of James Vega, I'll be just as happy.

[Fiannawolf]

Since this is the end of the trilogy I would love to see them go all out when it comes to choices. RPGs = variety for me so onward! ROMANCE EVERYONE!!!

[Eternal Dust]

CaptainIsabela wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...



I'm kind of hoping for homosexual-restricted characters in ME3. Maybe James Vega and a new female? David Gaider once explained why Bioware favours bisexual characters over homosexual ones, and he made a reasonable, compelling argument, but I still can't help but hope that Mass Effect 3 will try to break the mold and give us some truly amazing homosexual heroes to look up to. (And inevitably romance!)

I would hate to have to start a meaningless romance with someone over the course of one game. I know the characters..and want to romance Ash BECAUSE I know her

This. It's just much more meangingful to have a continued romance with someone who was there with you from the very start. Even though it took her 2 games to admit it, at least the experiences shared weren't discounted

[LiquidGrape]

Siansonea II wrote...

It's getting kind of heated in here. I suggest a rainbow cookie break.

Rainbow It Is.

Stay excellent, everyone.