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#7026
Siansonea

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Augoeides wrote...
*snip*

Matriarch Siansonea has spoken! o.o

So Sian (can I call you that?), I know you've probably stated them heaps before but for the sake of some topicicity, what are your personal hopes out of the existing cast for s/s romance? and why? 


Everybody calls me Sian. :) And I'm too young to be a Matriarch, too young I say! :crying:

Nah, I'm old, I can deal with it. :D

For me personally, and mind you it's just my own idea of who makes the most sense, I think Kaidan and Miranda are the best choices from the existing squad lineup. And for similar reasons. Both Kaidan and Ashley have reserved personalities, so if anyone in the crew would hold themselves back, for whatever reason, it would be those two. And Miranda's motivations and agendas are anybody's guess, if there was ever a character who has an untold story, it's Miranda. I don't take anything she says at face value.

But that said, I think a reasonably good case could be made for any of them. I am crossing my fingers that BioWare's writers are well-versed enough on the things they got wrong in the previous games that they won't make those mistakes again.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:08 .


#7027
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jlb524 wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

Shepard needs to be rejected, badly.


Shepard was rejected by Samara badly.

Augoeides wrote...

I'm all for Aria as a squadmate, permanent or temporary but to those who say Shepard should be able to romance her (either gender) I say, Aria wouldn't even consider it, she would shoot Shepard down, fast and hard.

"Better luck next time"


eh


The thing about Samara is that she actually felt the same but rejected Shepard because it would undermine her committment to the code.

I'm talking about flat-out rejection, someone who doesn't even become vaguely attracted to Shepard no matter what. Take the glorious commander down a peg from "demi-god" to fully human.

#7028
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@Sian:
I like both your choices and reasonings and they are essentially mine too, though I think Ashley might be thrown in as well for the sake of balancing out the VS romance situation.

If it makes you feel any better I'm 20, mistaken for as high as 30, talk like I'm 50 in real life AND the Wii Fit told me i'm 80. Patriarch Auggie? xDD

Modifié par Augoeides, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:04 .


#7029
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Augoeides wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Abispa wrote...

@ Siansonea II -- You guys are making that book sound interesting. I wonder why the jacket didn't brag about its incredible gay subplots as a selling point?


The books are good, they do add to the story, but don't expect Hendel to be a big part of the story. He's really just Kahlee's most trusted friend and colleague, and he is mainly seen through her eyes. He is a badass though, and I for one would LOVE to see him and Kahlee (and Gillian) in ME3. But I don't think he'd make a good s/s LI for Shepard though, because I don't think Shepard is Hendel's type. 


Shepard needs to be rejected, badly. I'm all for Aria as a squadmate, permanent or temporary but to those who say Shepard should be able to romance her (either gender) I say, Aria wouldn't even consider it, she would shoot Shepard down, fast and hard.

"Better luck next time"




considering there are people who hate aria for not bending over and sucking shepards **** like most npc's I can only imaginen the reactions people woulkd have to her rejecting shepards romantic come ons

#7030
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Augoeides wrote...
"So Kaidan, is this your new boyfriend?"
"Uhh...Hendel this is..."
"I'm Commander Shepard"
"Yeah, I know, but is he your boyfriend?"

Shepard Dialogue wheel:
1."No"
2."Not yet"
3. "I didn't know"

1. H: "Ahh my mistake then"
2. K: "Commander?"
H: "Well, well, looks like Kaidan here has a beau in the making"
3. K: "It's not something I advertise"
H: "You haven't changed at all Kaidan"


Not enough ninjamance opportunities for Bioware to ever do anything that simple and clear cut though.

#7031
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My Shepard doesn't feel like a demi-god.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

I remember we were only shown how to put the condom on. So if you ever hook up with someone from New York and he's having trouble with the condom - you know why. Come to think of it - they never distributed them.

I do recall my teacher showing different flavor condoms.

"This one is cherry..."


*is jealous*

We just got the "sex will ruin your life but use condoms if you really have to." speech. Along with a video of a woman giving birth. :sick: Now that (the vid no the "SEX IS BAD IF YOUR UNDERAGE!" is what turned me off sex near permanently. 

#7033
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My Shepard doesn't feel like a demi-god.


It'd be more a meta-game addressal of the wider community's perceptions of Shepard's (like what Cuddlezarro mentioned) apparent sexual virilty and power. That, and in-character for Aria. Naturally, there will always be perspectives and Shepards that do not comply with the generalization.

Modifié par Augoeides, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:09 .


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Ryzaki wrote...
Along with a video of a woman giving birth. :sick: Now that (the vid no the "SEX IS BAD IF YOUR UNDERAGE!" is what turned me off sex near permanently. 


Yes!

But then I decided to go the gay sex route so it's all good.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Along with a video of a woman giving birth. :sick: Now that (the vid no the "SEX IS BAD IF YOUR UNDERAGE!" is what turned me off sex near permanently. 

 

Did they play it in reverse...  mine did :lol:

#7036
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Ryzaki wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I remember we were only shown how to put the condom on. So if you ever hook up with someone from New York and he's having trouble with the condom - you know why. Come to think of it - they never distributed them.

I do recall my teacher showing different flavor condoms.

"This one is cherry..."


*is jealous*

We just got the "sex will ruin your life but use condoms if you really have to." speech. Along with a video of a woman giving birth. :sick: Now that (the vid no the "SEX IS BAD IF YOUR UNDERAGE!" is what turned me off sex near permanently. 


my sex ed class had to watch that video...I played my gameboy behind a book

#7037
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Augoeides wrote...

"So Kaidan, is this your new boyfriend?"
"Uhh...Hendel this is..."
"I'm Commander Shepard"
"Yeah, I know, but is he your boyfriend?"

Shepard Dialogue wheel:
1."No"
2."Not yet"
3. "I didn't know"

1. H: "Ahh my mistake then"
2. K: "Commander?"
H: "Well, well, looks like Kaidan here has a beau in the making"
3. K: "It's not something I advertise"
H: "You haven't changed at all Kaidan"

Yes, please. Just too perfect! :wub:

As for sex-ed in school, I didn't have almost any really and those I had were absolutely pathetic, not calling anything by name etc. I'm from Poland a.k.a. the Papal State, go figure lol

Modifié par IsaacShep, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:11 .


#7038
Siansonea

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Augoeides wrote...

@Sian:
I like both your choices and reasonings and they are essentially mine too, though I think Ashley might be thrown in as well for the sake of balancing out the VS romance situation.

If it makes you feel any better I'm 20, mistaken for as high as 30, talk like I'm 50 in real life AND the Wii Fit told me i'm 80. Patriarch Auggie? xDD


Patriarch Auggie it is. :wizard:

#7039
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Jimmy Fury wrote...

Augoeides wrote...
"So Kaidan, is this your new boyfriend?"
"Uhh...Hendel this is..."
"I'm Commander Shepard"
"Yeah, I know, but is he your boyfriend?"

Shepard Dialogue wheel:
1."No"
2."Not yet"
3. "I didn't know"

1. H: "Ahh my mistake then"
2. K: "Commander?"
H: "Well, well, looks like Kaidan here has a beau in the making"
3. K: "It's not something I advertise"
H: "You haven't changed at all Kaidan"


Not enough ninjamance opportunities for Bioware to ever do anything that simple and clear cut though.


You're right, it's missing the Renegade option:

"****gots"

Which aside from ensuring much rebuking from Kaidan and Hendel, sets a plot flag for later on that has Kaidan confrfont Shepard once more and force him into revealing that he's a closeted homosexual masquarading as a homophobe and thus begin a relationship which the player cannot opt out of and then gives Kaidan plot-armor of immortality.

#7040
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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Abispa wrote...

@ Siansonea II -- You guys are making that book sound interesting. I wonder why the jacket didn't brag about its incredible gay subplots as a selling point?


The books are good, they do add to the story, but don't expect Hendel to be a big part of the story. He's really just Kahlee's most trusted friend and colleague, and he is mainly seen through her eyes. He is a badass though, and I for one would LOVE to see him and Kahlee (and Gillian) in ME3. But I don't think he'd make a good s/s LI for Shepard though, because I don't think Shepard is Hendel's type. 


Shepard needs to be rejected, badly. I'm all for Aria as a squadmate, permanent or temporary but to those who say Shepard should be able to romance her (either gender) I say, Aria wouldn't even consider it, she would shoot Shepard down, fast and hard.

"Better luck next time"




considering there are people who hate aria for not bending over and sucking shepards **** like most npc's I can only imaginen the reactions people woulkd have to her rejecting shepards romantic come ons


It would be epic, and I'd love it. Of course, I love all the NPCs who treat Shepard like a regular human being rather than some artificial Player Character Protagonist. And I love Samara's "how about no" moment. ^_^

#7041
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IsaacShep wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

"So Kaidan, is this your new boyfriend?"
"Uhh...Hendel this is..."
"I'm Commander Shepard"
"Yeah, I know, but is he your boyfriend?"

Shepard Dialogue wheel:
1."No"
2."Not yet"
3. "I didn't know"

1. H: "Ahh my mistake then"
2. K: "Commander?"
H: "Well, well, looks like Kaidan here has a beau in the making"
3. K: "It's not something I advertise"
H: "You haven't changed at all Kaidan"

Yes, please. Just too perfect! :wub:

As for sex-ed in school, I didn't have almost any really and those I had were absolutely pathetic, not calling anything by name etc. I'm from Poland a.k.a. the Papal State, go figure lol


One would hope with all the fanfiction and general fiction I write that I'd be able to write some okay dialogue. :P

#7042
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Siansonea II wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

@Sian:
I like both your choices and reasonings and they are essentially mine too, though I think Ashley might be thrown in as well for the sake of balancing out the VS romance situation.

If it makes you feel any better I'm 20, mistaken for as high as 30, talk like I'm 50 in real life AND the Wii Fit told me i'm 80. Patriarch Auggie? xDD


Patriarch Auggie it is. :wizard:


:o

*goes mad with power*

#7043
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Siansonea II wrote...


It would be epic, and I'd love it. Of course, I love all the NPCs who treat Shepard like a regular human being rather than some artificial Player Character Protagonist. And I love Samara's "how about no" moment. ^_^


I quite liked Aria and Samara(though shes dead in my canon playthrough) despite my hate for the asari as a race in general

#7044
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Augoeides wrote...

I'm talking about flat-out rejection, someone who doesn't even become vaguely attracted to Shepard no matter what. Take the glorious commander down a peg from "demi-god" to fully human.


Mordin does if you're not in a romance and you pester him enough. He just assumes you're into him, and shuts you down pre-emptively. Sure, he says if he were gonna try human, he'd try you, but I'm not sure he was entirely sincere on that point....

Modifié par didymos1120, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:22 .


#7045
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jlb524 wrote...

Yes!

But then I decided to go the gay sex route so it's all good.


You dodge quite a few bullets going that route. 


Cuddlezarro wrote...

my sex ed class had to watch that video...I played my gameboy behind a book

 


Ha I was in front  

Lenimph wrote...
Did they play it in reverse...  mine did :lol:


They played that horror show in reverse? :mellow: Oh no no the images....:unsure: 
 
Re: Shep getting rejected. I just wish Shepard could do some more rejecting of his own. 

Aria: "No I do not require a young girl to keep me company. Mind your goddamn business and I'll do the same." 
Shiala: "No. You're green. You look like a freak." 
Parsini: "...if you don't remove your hand I will break it." 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:24 .


#7046
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Ryzaki wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I remember we were only shown how to put the condom on. So if you ever hook up with someone from New York and he's having trouble with the condom - you know why. Come to think of it - they never distributed them.

I do recall my teacher showing different flavor condoms.

"This one is cherry..."


*is jealous*

We just got the "sex will ruin your life but use condoms if you really have to." speech. Along with a video of a woman giving birth. :sick: Now that (the vid no the "SEX IS BAD IF YOUR UNDERAGE!" is what turned me off sex near permanently. 


Haha I had to watch that in Bio class. I dunno which one you guys saw, but the one we saw definitely could have been worse. When things go wrong with the position of the baby or the "size" of the woman, things go from kinda gross to absolutely grotesque. :unsure:

Modifié par gamer_girl, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:27 .


#7047
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Augoeides wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

The books are good, they do add to the story, but don't expect Hendel to be a big part of the story. He's really just Kahlee's most trusted friend and colleague, and he is mainly seen through her eyes. He is a badass though, and I for one would LOVE to see him and Kahlee (and Gillian) in ME3. But I don't think he'd make a good s/s LI for Shepard though, because I don't think Shepard is Hendel's type.

It would be interesting if Hendel appeared in ME3 and revealed "something" about Kaidan though, considering they've knew each other since they were teenagers :whistle:


*snip*


Here's how I'd word it:


Hendel: "So Kaidan, is this is Shepard?"
Kaidan: "Uhh...yeah Hendel this is..."
Shepard: "I'm Commander Shepard, you're Hendel Mitra, right?"
Hendel: "Yeah, I know who you are Shepard. You've got some impressive bullet points on your resume. And some not-so-impressive ones. None of that matters though, as long as you're treating Kaidan right."
Shepard: "I, uh, don't know what you mean."
Hendel: "Oh, I'm sorry, I assumed you two were together. My mistake. Say Kaidan, does this mean you have time for an old flame? I'm not as young as I used to be, but let's face it, we were always great together."
Kaidan: "I don't know, am I Shepard?"
Shepard: "Wait, what?"
Kaidan: "Am I single? Should I stop waiting for Clueless Commander Shepard to see what's right in front of him, or should I move on?"

Shepard Dialogue wheel:
1."Sorry Hendel, he's mine."
2."Can we table this for now? I need to wrap my head around some things."
3. "You two knock yourselves out. Not literally of course, I know how biotics are."

#7048
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Augoeides wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Abispa wrote...

@ Siansonea II -- You guys are making that book sound interesting. I wonder why the jacket didn't brag about its incredible gay subplots as a selling point?


The books are good, they do add to the story, but don't expect Hendel to be a big part of the story. He's really just Kahlee's most trusted friend and colleague, and he is mainly seen through her eyes. He is a badass though, and I for one would LOVE to see him and Kahlee (and Gillian) in ME3. But I don't think he'd make a good s/s LI for Shepard though, because I don't think Shepard is Hendel's type. 


Shepard needs to be rejected, badly. I'm all for Aria as a squadmate, permanent or temporary but to those who say Shepard should be able to romance her (either gender) I say, Aria wouldn't even consider it, she would shoot Shepard down, fast and hard.

"Better luck next time"



Actually, funnily enough, I wouldn't be surprised if Aria did encourage something herself between she and Shep....not from a romantic...in love...perspective, but purely as a political move.

#7049
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Kaidan: "I don't know, am I Shepard?"
Shepard: "Wait, what?"
Kaidan: "Am I single? Should I stop waiting for Clueless Commander Shepard to see what's right in front of him, or should I move on?"

That exchange maybe could have happened in the first game, but after he got all saucy on Horizon? Not a chance.

Trying to be clever like that is just going to get him punched in the face.

They got issues to work through before he can run a smart mouth and expect to get away with it IMO.

Modifié par devSin, 26 juillet 2011 - 05:32 .


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Golden Owl wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

Shepard needs to be rejected, badly. I'm all for Aria as a squadmate, permanent or temporary but to those who say Shepard should be able to romance her (either gender) I say, Aria wouldn't even consider it, she would shoot Shepard down, fast and hard.

"Better luck next time"



Actually, funnily enough, I wouldn't be surprised if Aria did encourage something herself between she and Shep....not from a romantic...in love...perspective, but purely as a political move.


And I would support that.  I would gladly get with Aria as a political move for Omega (and beyond).  She would learn to love me with time and my delightful roguish ways.