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Aside from jerks like Harkin, no, they don't. The conversations are for the most part exactly the same. The only thing that was different was the availability of romances, and that's the thing we're trying to get rid of.
You'd like to take away what little distinction there is between playing male and female Shepard and make them completely identical except for pronouns? Yeah, that's not what Bioware games strive to do. There's gender
equality, yes, but some people in the
Mass Effect do (and will always) react to Shepard different because of his/her gender. I don't know why you think "different" has to equal
bad.
The general point is: why that kind of segregation?
The segregation of male and female Shepard as distinct experiences is already in the game. If you think that the writers are suddenly going to make female and male Shepard identical-except-for-pronouns in ME3, you're mistaken. I just want that distinction to also apply to bisexual romances.
What if you find the ME3 homosexual Kaidance awful (much shorter than the hetero one, or maybe full of stereotypes or whatever other reason) and have to play Femshep again to be able to experience a decent romance with him? Simply by being different, people will like one better than the other.
Again, I don't know why you assume that different equals bad. I don't know why the homosexual romances between Kaidan and manShep would be "shorter" or somehow less satisfying that the heterosexual romance between Kaidan and femShep.
Again, I'm not asking for something radically different, but the foundation of Kaidan and male Shepard's relationship is
already different than that of female Shepard and Kaidan, and this should be explored in ME3.
No, single Femshep and Manshep don't have a very different relationship with Kaidan. Their relationship isn't different at all. Even if they were, if you play Manshep, what do you care what Kaidan feels towards my femshep anyway?
Yes, they are. Kaidan flirts with female Shepard in Mass Effect 1 after she saves him from the Prothean Beacon. My male Shepard might not care what Kaidan did with female Shepard in a different game, but
Kaidan should certainly care! In Mass Effect 3, if female Shepard is single and suddenly starts returning his advances, he should have dialogue that respects the relationship they started in ME1--a relationship that is inherently
different than that of male Shepard and Kaidan, because male Shepard saved
Ashley from the Prothean Beacon, and he was never able to flirt with Kaidan at all. Male Shepard and Kaidan were robbed of certain plot-points granted to female Shepard and Kaidan, even if she never chose to start a relationship with him. Even if female Shepard only talks to Kaidan, he still makes casual passes as her and expresses an interest in her, something he never does with male Shepard.
And because Kaidan will be (or should be) aware of how he treated female Shepard as distinct from male Shepard in ME1, his romance with them in ME3 should
also be distinct.
Kaidan should definitely have two distinct experiences that honours and acknowledges the different relationship that he has with male Shepard as compared to female Shepard.
At the expense of the players. Sorry, I don't see why. And I don't see why because I don't understand why you think homosexual couples are inherently different from heterosexual couples. Maybe you can explain that one to me.
Again, I don't know why respecting the existing difference between Kaidan's relationship with male Shepard and female Shepard is at the player's "expense." If anything, taking away how Kaidan treated female Shepard (again, even if she didn't romance him) in ME1 and making it identical to male Shepard is what will take away from the players.
And, yes, homosexual and heterosexual couples are inherently different. I know that I would certainly enter a relationship with a woman
very differently than I would with a man. You may not feel that way--in fact, a lot of "gender blind" people don't feel that way--but I'm sure that Kaidan does. The fact that his relationship with male and female Shepard are
already different means that they should have different plot elements in ME3.
Edit on my last point: I didn't mean to get into gender politics, I only meant to imply that, yes, some people treat homosexual and heterosexual relationships differently, even bisexuals, and I'm sure that Kaidna is one of them, seeing that he flirted with female Shepard in ME1 but not male Shepard. No, male Shepard would not be aware how Kaidan reacted to femShep in a different game, but
Kaidan would certainly be aware of how he acted around femShep in
femShep's game. For him to act like his flirtations with femShep in ME1 never happened would be a detriment to his character, and the evotion of his and femShep's relationship. Therefore, his romance with single femShep in ME3 should be fundamentally different that his relationship with male Shepard in ME3, and I would certainly appreciate it if the Bioware writers used that opportunity to explore Kaidan and my male Shepard's relationship as a distinctly homosexual couple, and not just a relationship with a genderswapped femShep.
Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 28 juillet 2011 - 04:09 .
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Long story short their body language speaks of them as females so it counts as a lesbian romance!Lol!
it makes sense.Why?Well here is how I see things...in ME1 Kaidan->FemShep/Ash->ManShep and Liara for both.Now that they bring the s/s romances I guess it would be the same pattern...like this Vega->ManShep/Vigilante->FemShep and maybe again Liara for both..if you haven't romanced her yet?
