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[shepskisaac]

silentassassin264 wrote...

You may not need a tech but they will probably give you a Sentinel to replace Kaiden if you Virmire'd him like you get Vega to replace Ashley. Miranda will probably not be a permanent squadmate to be that Sentinel either.

Agree, many people actuall guess the second new squadmate will be a Sentinel in case you don't have Kaidan.

[Quething]

IsaacShep wrote...

The point is Casey already said there will be "new LIs", in plural, regarding s/s ones, so it means at least 2.

Yeah, but that doesn't have to mean new characters, just new love interests. Joker or Kasumi or Mordin or whoever could reasonably be described as "new LIs" as well.

As for directness in the face of death, I am all for it, but mainShep has no doubt in her mind whatsoever that the Reapers are going down, so I think there's room for some hedging. Not every character is going to really believe it's the end of the world. (Ash and Kaidan didn't, in ME1. Ash in particular is very much like "lol we're not gonna die, you're Shepard." Of course she's a very direct person anyway, so.)

[ladyofpayne]

Intresting who in new LI will be a gay? Another asari?

[silentassassin264]

Oh please not another Asari copout.

[ElitePinecone]

IsaacShep wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

You may not need a tech but they will probably give you a Sentinel to replace Kaiden if you Virmire'd him like you get Vega to replace Ashley. Miranda will probably not be a permanent squadmate to be that Sentinel either.

Agree, many people actuall guess the second new squadmate will be a Sentinel in case you don't have Kaidan.

I'm guessing none of the ME2 squadmates will be permanent. Huge story and skill gaps if they're dead, otherwise. 

Even assuming they do come back in a significant capacity, Bioware at the very least need to provide a core squad that contains all skills, if only so that people who killed everyone/most people on the suicide mission can have a decent team. 

I'm indulging in utter speculation by assuming we'll get a vanguard and sentinel of some description, one each of male and female, that will (also?) be s/s options. One of them may be this enigmatic Vigilante lady. 

[bleetman]

Are the squad member skills really all that important? They were essentially walking gun turrets with occasional dialogue in ME2, and served little useful purpose besides making it easier for Shepard to do all the work. I can't say I ever found myself painfully lamenting my decision to not include someone with Overload in the squad.

[lazuli]

bleetman wrote...

Are the squad member skills really all that important? They were essentially walking gun turrets with occasional dialogue in ME2, and served little useful purpose besides making it easier for Shepard to do all the work. I can't say I ever found myself painfully lamenting my decision to not include someone with Overload in the squad.

It depends on the difficulty level and the proficiency of the player.  If you're new to Insanity, for instance, you might very well be hurting if you don't take Miranda and Garrus on shield-heavy missions.

[Siansonea]

I don't think it's necessarily a foregone conclusion that a "squad mate" is always a richer, more engaging character than a non-squadmate. I certainly feel like I had more meaningful interaction with Joker than I did with Zaeed, even though Zaeed had a Loyalty Mission and I could take him with me wherever I went. And I have much more of an emotional bond with Dr. Chakwas than half the people in the squad selection screen.

[bleetman]

lazuli wrote...

It depends on the difficulty level and the proficiency of the player.  If you're new to Insanity, for instance, you might very well be hurting if you don't take Miranda and Garrus on shield-heavy missions.

That wasn't really my experience, but sure. Given that the only enemy types that press their attacks (heavy mechs, praetorians etc) follow an asinine shoot-Shepard-and-only-Shepard tactic, wittling them all down with weapons fire worked just fine.

But yes, fair enough.

[lazuli]

bleetman wrote...
That wasn't really my experience, but sure. Given that the only enemy types that press their attacks (heavy mechs, praetorians etc) follow an asinine shoot-Shepard-and-only-Shepard tactic, wittling them all down with weapons fire worked just fine.

But yes, fair enough.

In ME2, you could play extremely defensively and make it through almost any mission.  It just took a million years.  In ME3, enemies are supposed to put more pressure on Shepard and his/her squad.  I foresee squadmates being a bit more important this time around.

As it stands, though, if you're going for optimal play (fast, efficient, flashy) in ME2, you will want to put some thought into your squad.

[shepskisaac]

silentassassin264 wrote...

Oh please not another Asari copout.

LOL would be such awful trolling. "And now we present you the female same-sex romance option - new Asari!" xD

[lazuli]

Ferris95 wrote...

Agreed. Kelly surprisingly turned out to be one of my favorite romances, mostly because it actually felt fairly natural. All the other romances basically boiled down to "Talk-talk-talk-sex-calibrations from now on".

It felt like sexual harassment.

"Where's my hug, Kelly?  Huh?  WHERE IS IT?!"

Maybe it's different as a female Shepard.

[bleetman]

lazuli wrote...

In ME2, you could play extremely defensively and make it through almost any mission.  It just took a million years.  In ME3, enemies are supposed to put more pressure on Shepard and his/her squad.  I foresee squadmates being a bit more important this time around.

As it stands, though, if you're going for optimal play (fast, efficient, flashy) in ME2, you will want to put some thought into your squad.

Can't say it ever took a million years, either. Squad member overloads/warps/so on and so forth were painfully ineffective for the most part. Substituting them for anyone-plus-squad-ammo-of-some-description really wasn't much of a disadvantage. Neither Mass Effect game has put much importance on min-maxing, thus far.

But I should stop, since this hasn't really got all that much to do with s/s romances

I thought the whole Kelly side-mance thing was great, actually. Far more than the supposed 'true' romances, possibly as a result of it being player initiated, spanning the entirity of the game and... well. Neither of you are risking death in the process. It was going better until she showed up at Shepard's quarters wearing a skin tight rubber suit and flashing her butt cheeks, though. I had to facepalm at that a little.

Modifié par bleetman, 02 août 2011 - 05:07 .

[AngelicMachinery]

IsaacShep wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Oh please not another Asari copout.

LOL would be such awful trolling. "And now we present you the female same-sex romance option - new Asari!" xD

I'll rage,  after being told over 9000 times that she isn't a woman, I want a 100% S/S female romance option.

[Siansonea]

I'm not opposed to more asari romance options (Shiala, plz), but they should not count as the only f/f options. We need human romances.

[Thibax]

Please love for everybody.Humans, please.Ah ok, can be another race too.But males and females humans too.
A cosmic love? Make true in ME3 <3<3

[Prent62]

I'm going to go straight (pun unintended) ahead and say that the Jersey Shore-esque beefman James Vega is gay.

[Thibax]

I want James Vega to be my love.
Ah what about a woman? Please a new beautiful girl.

Tali, Liara and Ashley are horrible ¬¬

Sex for all.

[StarsInMyEyes]

I would love to see Aria come back as a romantic option, she is so badass.

[Erani]

I agree, Aria is so sexy ...but we already have Liara so human f/f option would be better.

[StarsInMyEyes]

I wish we could just have a one night stand, like with Izzy in DA2.

[Quething]

bleetman wrote...

I thought the whole Kelly side-mance thing was great, actually. Far more than the supposed 'true' romances, possibly as a result of it being player initiated, spanning the entirity of the game and... well. Neither of you are risking death in the process. It was going better until she showed up at Shepard's quarters wearing a skin tight rubber suit and flashing her butt cheeks, though. I had to facepalm at that a little.

Eh. The problem with Kelly as a romance (my strong issues with her general writing aside) is the DA2 LI problem, only moreso: in order not to lock yourself out, you have to act like you love her before you even know her. The very first thing she does is ask you to call her by her first name. To be more precise, the first thing this gung-ho Cerberus stooge says to a potentially suspicious, furious, trapped and coerced by Cerberus military officer is "be my best bud and treat this like off-duty vacation." Follow the investigate options, and she then goes on to talk about how wonderful Cerberus is and how much she trusts and admires you, the likely enemy of Cerberus who she's never before met.

Respond to her in a way that's in-character for 99% of my Shepards, and you permanently lock out any chance to get to know her, much less romance her. If you tell her to be professional and that you'll be calling her Chambers, that's it. There's no organic way to actually get to know her: you have to decide you like her before your very first sentence.

The squaddie love stories may be more mechanical, but at least they're well-paced. (Pacing is a great fear of mine for ME3, actually. I'll feel pretty robbed if the new s/s LIs follow the "first nookie just before the end" pattern of the ME series, but I'm not about to give Vega a promise ring in the first dialog, either.)