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[ElitePinecone]

Remember to stay on topic and keep private conversations to private messages...

[Ilovewrex53]

InviolateNK wrote...

Ilovewrex53 wrote...

InviolateNK wrote...
Shiala who needed Shep's help twice? She can't do anything herself, let alone always fit 

Soemthings are better when done with another person 

Yep, and Shep has Kaidan to do those things with 

Come talk in the accidentally random thread, it's sooooo boring in there.  

Also, on topic: Ash is gonna come back, find out she's gay,a nd steal my Jack from me, I just know it!

[Ilovewrex53]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Remember to stay on topic and keep private conversations to private messages...

Talking about people being off-topic, is off-topic as well... You really should contribute to a conversation, preferable about Jack 

[Dhiro]

Oh, for the love of--

*sigh*

Putting the "gay" back into "sex"... I wonder if we'll have any references of our romance. In ME 2 (mostly because the romances were only consumated before the last mission) no one talked about our romances unless you tried to cheat on them with another person.

In Legacy (at least, they told me it works this way) there are some lines about the romance of our Hawkes, so I think it would be a nice touch. I wonder what some characters would have to say about gay Shep.

[Markun120]

Dhiro wrote...

Oh, for the love of--

*sigh*

Putting the "gay" back into "sex"... I wonder if we'll have any references of our romance. In ME 2 (mostly because the romances were only consumated before the last mission) no one talked about our romances unless you tried to cheat on them with another person.

In Legacy (at least, they told me it works this way) there are some lines about the romance of our Hawkes, so I think it would be a nice touch. I wonder what some characters would have to say about gay Shep.

Yeah, I think it would be interesting to see a little more recognition in-game, the whole "wait until the final mission" in ME2 irked me a bit.

[Quething]

Ilovewrex53 wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
Alas. I'm a Dragon Age guy, not a Mass Effect guy. So I cannot give you what you seek!

Do we get more steamy scenes with Morrigan? 

More saliently, does my femCousland get more steamy scenes with Morrigan. :happy: (Cuz the het ones don't line up perfectly, y'know.)

ACTUALLY! Speaking of that. BioWare likes telling us that bi relationships are cheaper, development-wise. I would really like, however, for them to take at least a little extra time on the animations. FemShep players will generally already be aware of this problem, but there's another good example right on the last page, in the Sheploo/Thane pic:

the male Shepard model and the female Shepard model have the same basic rigging, but they don't occupy the same space. So a hug animation or a kiss animation that's designed and blocked for Sheploo/NPC won't line up properly when femShep uses it, and vice versa. I've posted this in this thread before, but here's a real obvious example:



See how Ashley's arms are way out behind Shepard's back? If you play through LotSB with a Liaramancing Shep you'll notice the same thing in the interrupt kiss. It's really obnoxious, and I sincerely hope they spend the extra dev time to make sure it doesn't plauge ME3's s/s romances as well.

[Ilovewrex53]

Quething wrote...

Ilovewrex53 wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
Alas. I'm a Dragon Age guy, not a Mass Effect guy. So I cannot give you what you seek!

Do we get more steamy scenes with Morrigan? 

More saliently, does my femCousland get more steamy scenes with Morrigan. :happy: (Cuz the het ones don't line up perfectly, y'know.)

ACTUALLY! Speaking of that. BioWare likes telling us that bi relationships are cheaper, development-wise. I would really like, however, for them to take at least a little extra time on the animations. FemShep players will generally already be aware of this problem, but there's another good example right on the last page, in the Sheploo/Thane pic:

the male Shepard model and the female Shepard model have the same basic rigging, but they don't occupy the same space. So a hug animation or a kiss animation that's designed and blocked for Sheploo/NPC won't line up properly when femShep uses it, and vice versa. I've posted this in this thread before, but here's a real obvious example:



See how Ashley's arms are way out behind Shepard's back? If you play through LotSB with a Liaramancing Shep you'll notice the same thing in the interrupt kiss. It's really obnoxious, and I sincerely hope they spend the extra dev time to make sure it doesn't plauge ME3's s/s romances as well.

TLDR version: Boobs get in the way? 

[shepskisaac]

Ilovewrex53 wrote...

Also, on topic: Ash is gonna come back, find out she's gay,a nd steal my Jack from me, I just know it!

I think Ash and Jack would be more likley to kill each other before they even managed to get to the point of falling for each other

[Quething]

Markun120 wrote...

Yeah, I think it would be interesting to see a little more recognition in-game, the whole "wait until the final mission" in ME2 irked me a bit.

Well, that's just a general symptom of the fact that nobody in ME2 appears to even be aware that the other squadmates exist, much less know what kind of relationships you have with them. Even Miranda and Jack/Legion and Tali don't have any kind of acknowledgement of each other outside their loyalty conflicts themselves. Kasumi will make note of your history with Liara if you have one, which is a large part of the reason why fans love her so much. I think BioWare *has* gotten that message, at least partly, since they promised us more squad banter, and squad banter has always reflected LI relationships in past BW games.

[lietk12]

I just finished Jacob's loyalty mission again. Either this line (after Miranda admits that she forwarded Jacob the information) is bad writers' grammar or subtle hinting at bi Jacob--I'm going with the former:
"Can't figure which promise she meant, though. Not sure I really want to know. She...requires a better man than I."
("She requires a better man than I [require a man]" is how the construction is set up (at least in American English, not sure about how any possible Canadian grammatical differences), but "She requires a better man than me" is probably what the writers were going for--though it might be a hint at Jacob having lower standards for men than Miranda's standards!)

Modifié par lietk12, 03 août 2011 - 02:42 .

[ArawnNox]

lietk12 wrote...

I just finished Jacob's loyalty mission again. Either this line (after Miranda admits that she forwarded Jacob the information) is bad writers' grammar or subtle hinting at bi Jacob--I'm going with the former:
"Can't figure which promise she meant, though. Not sure I really want to know. She...requires a better man than I."
("She requires a better man than I [require a man]" is how the construction is set up (at least in American English, not sure about how any possible Canadian grammatical differences), but "She requires a better man than me" is probably what the writers were going for--though it might be a hint at Jacob having lower standards for men than Miranda's standards!)

Looking for something that isn't there. What Jacob said is gramatically sound.

[MalcolmM]

".... requires a better man than me." would be correct on this side of the Atlantic. (UK)

[gamer_girl]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ilovewrex53 wrote...

Also, on topic: Ash is gonna come back, find out she's gay,a nd steal my Jack from me, I just know it!

I think Ash and Jack would be more likley to kill each other before they even managed to get to the point of falling for each other

Unless she was doing it as a ploy to get Shepard jealous if you did someone else in ME2 after being with Ash in ME. Which seems likely. Ash seems like the jealous type. And honestly probably the only one she could get to sleep with her is Jack, let's be honest here.

Edit:
Obviously this would not be the case if you went with Jack in ME2. Dunno what she'd do then. Maybe try to seduce Shep with a sexy email or something.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 03 août 2011 - 03:28 .

[shepskisaac]

Quething wrote...

Well, that's just a general symptom of the fact that nobody in ME2 appears to even be aware that the other squadmates exist, much less know what kind of relationships you have with them. Even Miranda and Jack/Legion and Tali don't have any kind of acknowledgement of each other outside their loyalty conflicts themselves. Kasumi will make note of your history with Liara if you have one, which is a large part of the reason why fans love her so much. I think BioWare *has* gotten that message, at least partly, since they promised us more squad banter, and squad banter has always reflected LI relationships in past BW games.

The way it was in ME2 was a result of how many characters there were. 11 possible squaddies in vanilla game, 12th as a downloadable one at launch (means they worked on Zaeed simultaneously to other characters) was just too much variables that would consume too much time to develop decent amount of party banter. It's one of the reason why they're reverting back to the smaller squad.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 03 août 2011 - 03:36 .

[javierabegazo]

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[vorianxavier]

MalcolmM wrote...

".... requires a better man than me." would be correct on this side of the Atlantic. (UK)

That would be correct on the other side of the Atlantic too. I think what happens is people get used to being corrected and told to change "me" to "I" when the subject does come at the end of a sentence, so making that change becomes a habit even when unnecessary.

But hey, if Jacob requires less in a man than Miranda does, more power to him I guess

Modifié par vorianxavier, 03 août 2011 - 04:35 .

[AngelicMachinery]

vorianxavier wrote...

MalcolmM wrote...

".... requires a better man than me." would be correct on this side of the Atlantic. (UK)

That would be correct on the other side of the Atlantic too. I think what happens is people get used to being corrected and told to change "me" to "I" when the subject does come at the end of a sentence, so making that change becomes a habit even when unnecessary.

But hey, if Jacob requires a better man than Miranda does, more power to him

Is it wrong  I can completely empathize with Jacob here?  Everything Miranda says involves her saying "Oh look at me I'm like totally perfect,  I'm the greatest woman EVAH, except when I'm not."  Jacob seems totally sane running away from that relationship with all the power he posesses.

[ElitePinecone]

ArawnNox wrote...
Looking for something that isn't there. What Jacob said is gramatically sound.

Bioware aren't quite so subtle as to hide hints about a character potentially being bisexual in one line of dialogue that could be misintepreted, yes... they'd be far more blatant. 

That line was meant the way it sounds. Miranda needs a man, and Jacob doesn't think he's it.  

[Cathey]

I liked how Kasumi referenced an imported relationship with Liara. I always make sure to talk to Kasumi after meeting with Liara again in ME2 just so my FemShep can hear that line.

It might only be small but it makes all the difference.

[KawaiiKatie]

Cathey wrote...

I liked how Kasumi referenced an imported relationship with Liara.

Really? Because she never mentions Kaidan or Ashley. <_<

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that only Kasumi and Mordin cares who the Commander is knocking boots with? I mean, you'd think that Joker, at least, would be the first one in line to yank Shepard's chain, or tell Shepard exactly what's on his mind.

I really hope that when my gayShep finally gets a boyfriend, Joker makes a quip about it: "It's about time..."

[Quething]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Cathey wrote...

I liked how Kasumi referenced an imported relationship with Liara.

Really? Because she never mentions Kaidan or Ashley. <_<

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that only Kasumi and Mordin cares who the Commander is knocking boots with? I mean, you'd think that Joker, at least, would be the first one in line to yank Shepard's chain, or tell Shepard exactly what's on his mind.

Well, Joker does comment on your Ash/Kaidan relationship after Horizon. Don't know why Kasumi doesn't, but then I don't know why Joker doesn't comment on Liara after Illium either. And he really, really ought to have something to say about you hooking up with Tali or Garrus (so should Chakwas, for that matter).

[ElitePinecone]

Quething wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Cathey wrote...

I liked how Kasumi referenced an imported relationship with Liara.

Really? Because she never mentions Kaidan or Ashley. <_<

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that only Kasumi and Mordin cares who the Commander is knocking boots with? I mean, you'd think that Joker, at least, would be the first one in line to yank Shepard's chain, or tell Shepard exactly what's on his mind.

Well, Joker does comment on your Ash/Kaidan relationship after Horizon. Don't know why Kasumi doesn't, but then I don't know why Joker doesn't comment on Liara after Illium either. And he really, really ought to have something to say about you hooking up with Tali or Garrus (so should Chakwas, for that matter).

It's probably fair to say that having 12 squadmates and all their accompanying loyalty missions might've stretched Bioware to the point that a lot of the banter and incidental conversations needed to be cut. 

If I remember correctly, they'd planned a lot more interaction on the ship (Kelly and Ken/Gabby/Gardiner were the remnants of many more crew that could be talked to), and it's not out of the question that squadmates referencing each other and talking about romances might've been put in if they had more time... 

Still, like someone said above they are planning on putting banter into ME3, and I think it's more likely that we'll get some deeper conversations with the squad. 

[Quething]

ElitePinecone wrote...

If I remember correctly, they'd planned a lot more interaction on the ship (Kelly and Ken/Gabby/Gardiner were the remnants of many more crew that could be talked to)

Huh. I wonder if any of the cut conversational crew weren't white. <_<

[Siansonea]

MalcolmM wrote...

".... requires a better man than me." would be correct on this side of the Atlantic. (UK)

I've always thought "better man than I" to be incorrect too, but I don't have my Chicago Manual of Style handy...