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[Erani]

Time4Tiddy wrote...

Erani wrote...

^ Oi you Wasp! Why didn't you mention Liara??? I am Disappoint.

Because Liara is not same sex, remember?  She's mono-gendered and therefore gender neutral and not feminine in any way.

OOooohhh I see! Yes of course, BioWare knows best. If they say it's not s/s then it's not...even if....

[KawaiiKatie]

Erani wrote...

OOooohhh I see! Yes of course, BioWare knows best. If they say it's not s/s then it's not...even if....

I mean, come on. Liara totally called "No Lesbo."

[shepskisaac]

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[Erani]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Erani wrote...

OOooohhh I see! Yes of course, BioWare knows best. If they say it's not s/s then it's not...even if....

I mean, come on. Liara totally called "No Lesbo."

Yes, especially the part where FemShep moves her hands towards Liara's posterior ---> Liara's eyes go "let's embrace eternity black"....she totally did not get turned on by FemShep grabbing her butt.  

[Quething]

Haha, that dudeShep is so hot Kaidan's hair bump is coming askew XD

If we're talking about f/f now, I just don't want another Liara/Tali/Merrill romance. Gimmie an Ashley, a Morrigan, even a Bastila, somebody who pushes back and calls me on my bullspit and doesn't accept anything less than my best. When BioWare has given us s/s in the past, it's pretty much always been f/f and it's pretty much always been that fawning-little-sister character who's virginal and shy and has the PC on a pedestal so high it makes me airsick. Even Leliana, who (thankfully) is an experienced and independent woman, is the "softer," more permissive, more follows-the-PC's-lead of the two DA:O female LIs. Where is my assertive space butch, BioWare?

[AmyMac]

God, I would be so pissed if Tali is the only s/s female LI. Even though she sort of hits on FemShep in ME2, she just doesn't seem the type. I dunno, she's too whiny. I'm not even really sure why anyone would want to romance her.

[Destroy Raiden_]

She doesn't hit on fshep she says she wants to be friends. Rann linked suits with Tali's mom did that mean she had an affair with her? Mshep and Fshep are in two separate worlds they are not the same person they share the same last name, they're both specters, they're both human that's it. Their worlds shouldn't be 100% cookie cutter of one another and LIs and the unique situations (omega as fshep) are those defining points copy past 100% of the situations, words, actions, ect and you mine as well pick a shep and never switch because the only difference is weather or not your character has breasts.

And while I'm talking on here I mine as well again for BWs sake say new characters only should be the s/s options. Liara is the trilogy romance.

[Siansonea]

I think there's room for Tali to be s/s, but I never really understood her attraction to MShep, so I can't really wrap my head around her being attracted to FemShep either. But I think the door isn't completely open or closed, it's BioWare's call.

But I am really more in favor of human LIs over aliens for s/s. I think it's more meaningful with humans for s/s. I know alienmancers love their aliens, but when Shepard has an easier time romancing a "same-sex" alien, but can't get with a same-sex human, that strikes me as odd.

[Quething]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Rann linked suits with Tali's mom did that mean she had an affair with her?

Time to go make a kmeme request.... :happy:

[Abispa]

Forget those damn Reapers, s/s Shepard is the TRUE master of indoctrination!

[Arik7]

Harbinger for bisexual LI! He should be good at assuming control.... in bed ;-)

[Ziggy]

They said human ss li's specifically didn't they?

[Quething]

BioWare? They've said nothing. We're lucky they even said there'd be s/s at all.

[SirGladiator]

Having seen all of the 'linking suits' conversation, the one where it goes all the way and doesnt get cut off (the FemShep version gets cut off, the maleshep version does not), Tali specificly states that her saying she wants to link suits is another way of saying she's ready to be intimate with Shepard, basicly she confirms that the phrase means exactly what one would think it means . Of course Tali makes it quite clear she's very interested in FemShep repeatedly, that just happened to be the most 'forward' comment she makes. Her scenes with FemShep are romantic, emotional, powerful. I would definitely want her to be an official option in ME3, as she should've been in ME2.

As far as human LIs go, Ashley is awesome, Miranda is really great, and Jack is pretty good too, plenty of great choices there. The Ashley-FemShep romance from ME1 is really quite excellent, so I'd be especially interested in continuing that in ME3, but the Miranda and Jack romances would be very Femshep-worthy also, no doubt . The more the merrier!

[demonic_cookie]

If we're talking about f/f now, I just don't want another Liara/Tali/Merrill romance. Gimmie an Ashley, a Morrigan, even a Bastila, somebody who pushes back and calls me on my bullspit and doesn't accept anything less than my best. When BioWare has given us s/s in the past, it's pretty much always been f/f and it's pretty much always been that fawning-little-sister character who's virginal and shy and has the PC on a pedestal so high it makes me airsick. Even Leliana, who (thankfully) is an experienced and independent woman, is the "softer," more permissive, more follows-the-PC's-lead of the two DA:O female LIs. Where is my assertive space butch, BioWare?

I agree so much >_< Space butches are my dream, seriously, I want a grizzled war veteran with a big sniper rifle so much. Human female Wrex is my dream >_>

[Copyright Theft]

demonic_cookie wrote...

If we're talking about f/f now, I just don't want another Liara/Tali/Merrill romance. Gimmie an Ashley, a Morrigan, even a Bastila, somebody who pushes back and calls me on my bullspit and doesn't accept anything less than my best. When BioWare has given us s/s in the past, it's pretty much always been f/f and it's pretty much always been that fawning-little-sister character who's virginal and shy and has the PC on a pedestal so high it makes me airsick. Even Leliana, who (thankfully) is an experienced and independent woman, is the "softer," more permissive, more follows-the-PC's-lead of the two DA:O female LIs. Where is my assertive space butch, BioWare?

I agree so much >_< Space butches are my dream, seriously, I want a grizzled war veteran with a big sniper rifle so much. Human female Wrex is my dream >_>

I 3rd this notion, give us an Aveline type as f/f (i.e the only NORMAL companion in DA2 )

[DCYNIGR8]

SirGladiator wrote...

The more the merrier!

As long as it doesn't become a DA2 'everyone is bi' situation and is handled in a way that remains true to the characters involved, I am all for it.

[ScotGaymer]

I really hate that "OMG EVERYONE IS BI!!!" thing with DA2 that people have.

Everyone was not Bisexual.

Most people in DA2 were either heterosexual or undetermined; and only 4 of the companions out of 9 possible companions could possibly be Bisexual. And their sexuality entirely depended on what sex you were as Hawke in some cases.
For example Anders was actively heterosexual if you were a FemHawke; but Bisexual if you played MaleHawke; and both Fenris and Merril also appear to be entirely HawkeSexual no matter what sex you are. Sebastian is heterosexual.
Only Isabela appears to be actually "bisexual".

Aveline, Varric, Bethany, and Carver are all heterosexual also.

And there are far less gay/bisexual characters out in the world at large in Dragon Age 2 than there are in Dragon Age Origins/Awakening.

So the "everyone is bi" arguement against SS and whatnot is fail.

[LiaraShepard]

yes, the DA2 companions aren't bisexual. I don't know either why everyone complains that. Even the 4 romance LI's aren't bisexual. The only bisexual character was Isabela (and Anders, if you play as a man). The other characters' sexuality depends on the gender you chose at the beginning. And fenris and Merril don't make a hint at all. If you don't flirt with them, they'll never tell to be interested in Hawke. Stop arguing that all of them are bisexual (and that it's sooo unrealistic) just because Bioware was so fair to make them available for both genders.

Modifié par LiaraShepard, 10 août 2011 - 11:43 .

[ElitePinecone]

Quething wrote...

BioWare? They've said nothing. We're lucky they even said there'd be s/s at all.

Indeed. 

They didn't have to confirm anything; they didn't even need to make s/s available - but they did both. I wouldn't forget that quickly. 

[Ryzaki]

I just want one game where the gay LIs outnumber the straight ones.

Let's see how fast everyone is bi is requested for then.

[LiaraShepard]

Ryzaki wrote...

I just want one game where the gay LIs outnumber the straight ones.

Let's see how fast everyone is bi is requested for then.

Yes, that's exactly how I think. Why can't they imagine that gays and lesbians want the same number of choices? I bet they wouldn't be happy at all if they were the minority and got less love interests than other sexual orientated people.  Because the more choices we have the more possibilities to pick out our most favorite character we get. And that's not a bad thing. I wouldn't wish straight people to get less choices than the others. So I'm a bit sad that a lot of them don't want gays and lesbians to have the same variety.

[DCYNIGR8]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I really hate that "OMG EVERYONE IS BI!!!" thing with DA2 that people have.

Everyone was not Bisexual.

Most people in DA2 were either heterosexual or undetermined; and only 4 of the companions out of 9 possible companions could possibly be Bisexual. And their sexuality entirely depended on what sex you were as Hawke in some cases.
For example Anders was actively heterosexual if you were a FemHawke; but Bisexual if you played MaleHawke; and both Fenris and Merril also appear to be entirely HawkeSexual no matter what sex you are. Sebastian is heterosexual.
Only Isabela appears to be actually "bisexual".

Aveline, Varric, Bethany, and Carver are all heterosexual also.

And there are far less gay/bisexual characters out in the world at large in Dragon Age 2 than there are in Dragon Age Origins/Awakening.

So the "everyone is bi" arguement against SS and whatnot is fail.

I'm not against SS, I just wouldn't want to see it implimented the way it was in DA2. Whilst Isabella may be the only character who is openly bisexual, the fact that the other LIs, excluding Sebastian, have different sexualities depending on the sex of your character, hurts the experience for me.

I understand that people are excited to see SS in ME3 and there are particular characters that people would like to experience an SS LI with, but if all charcters who can be potential LI can be romancable regardless of the sex of your Shepard, I'll be dissapointed.

I also understand that regardless, it is possible to play the game however I choose and I can simply overlook this, that's just my opinion.

Modifié par DCYNIGR8, 10 août 2011 - 11:53 .

[ScotGaymer]

I have always said that opinions are subjective; that how people see things depends entirely on your viewpoint which is entirely unique to you.

My example would be the whole Tali/Garrus romance.
I dont like it myself.
I think it makes no sense; it is a retcon of established lore, and the prior established lore is actually reinforced in some places in ME2 and ignored in other places as they devs/writers found it convienient.
It is an example of bad writing as far as I am concerned.

But I get that some people dont agree with me. Most notably the Talimancers (who appear to nearly universally be against SS which makes even less sense than the Tali Romance to me). And thats just fine; I just do my best to ignore the Tali and Garrus romances.

So it is with great surprise that I find myself actually saying this but you are simply wrong.

Thats it. Your wrong.

Your arguement is fail because you are completely wrong about the basic premise of your arguement. The thing that forms the cornerstone of what you are saying is blatantly and factually wrong and thus renders your entire arguement invalid.

Sorry.

[Abispa]

I remember early after the release of DA2 that players were concerned with the LACK of choices it had. You couldn't dress up your party like they were a pack of Barbie dolls. You couldn't make Merrill learn a healing spell. Why can't Fenris learn how to use a shield? I could make Anders a blood mage in DA:A, why can't he be one now?

I don't know how many of those players who complained about the lack of party customization are also against the "OMG! All Bi!" option in DA2, but I can specifically name 11. In a role playing game choice is a good thing, and I applaud Bioware giving people the ability to romance any of the LOVE INTERESTS with either gender. It's a shame they added that choice while taking away a whole host of others players enjoyed.

I also liked the ability to flirt with almost everyone, specifically because it allowed my Bioware hero to finally get shot down repeatedly in a game.