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[jlb524]

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

I support it (for ME3), but don't expect it.  It would be more work and I'm not sure how tight their schedule/budget is...I'm sure they could do it if they really wanted to and kill a N7-type sidequest or something.

I definitely support it in future games and expect it more (though not with 100% certainty).

[Wittand25]

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

Those you can start a romance with in ME3 should be bisexual, no matter if the character is new (Vega,...), a former non-romance-option (Joker,...), a former romance option for only one Shepard (Kaidan,...), a  former romance option for both Shepards (Liara, Kelly).
Those who you cannot start a new romance with, but only continue an existing romance should remain as they are.

Modifié par Wittand25, 10 août 2011 - 08:32 .

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

As you kind of can tell, it gets pretty big on how many people want to touch Shepard. And it would be pretty annoying and repetitive to have to say no to a great big deal of them. Which is why, if they go the "all bi" route, I'd want less of them to hit on me, and more needing the player character to activate the romance path. Though some characters should hit on you. I'm just saying, keeping it low, so it doesn't become annoying and repetitive.

I've thought about this...they can have the PC initiate the 'romance' from a purely technical perspective with a simple click of one dialog option and then have the LI flirt and intitate contact, whatever...only after the player gave input.

An obvious way to do this is with the heart icon from DA2.  If you click it, you start the romance from a meta-perspective and possibly an in-universe one as well.  The dialog attached to the heart icon doesn't have to be flirty (it wasn't always in DA2), so it wouldn't seem as if your PC is making the first move (in this case).  However, behind the scenes, the potential romance is activated and the LI can feel free to be flirty, gropey, etc. in future dialog.

Modifié par jlb524, 10 août 2011 - 08:36 .

[gamer_girl]

jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

As you kind of can tell, it gets pretty big on how many people want to touch Shepard. And it would be pretty annoying and repetitive to have to say no to a great big deal of them. Which is why, if they go the "all bi" route, I'd want less of them to hit on me, and more needing the player character to activate the romance path. Though some characters should hit on you. I'm just saying, keeping it low, so it doesn't become annoying and repetitive.

I've thought about this...they can have the PC initiate the 'romance' from a purely technical perspective with a simple click of one dialog option and then have the LI flirt and intitate contact, whatever...only after the player gave input.

An obvious way to do this is with the heart icon from DA2.  If you click it, you start the romance from a meta-perspective and possibly an in-universe one as well.  The dialog attached to the heart icon doesn't have to be flirty (it wasn't always in DA2), so it wouldn't seem as if your PC is making the first move (in this case).  However, behind the scenes, the potential romance is activated and the LI can feel free to be flirty, gropey, etc. in future dialog.

I agree with that 100% and hope they impliment it should all characters be bi.

[bleetman]

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

Perhaps not with the mad number of romances Mass Effect has going at the moment but in general it's something I support. As far as I'm concerned it's something of a win-win scenario, as others get what they want without it impacting my playthrough/s. And hey, it saves me the trouble of having to screw around with fan made mods and/or saved game editors to get what I'm looking for.

[TMA LIVE]

I'm probably not ever going to use it, since I've already chosen Liara. And even if I was playing a non-romanced character, I'd probably romanced the characters that were was simply available or already available anways, regardless.

But I support people having more options, and the options to pick the one they want. Games are about enjoyment, different experiences, and entertainment. And people getting the option they want is enjoyment. Especially the option to choose. I know what it was like to be stuck with Bastila, and not having Juhani as an option. It sucked.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 10 août 2011 - 08:46 .

[bleetman]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I know what it was like to be stuck with Bastila, and not having Juhani as an option. It sucked.

Want to swap?

[Zjarcal]

jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

As you kind of can tell, it gets pretty big on how many people want to touch Shepard. And it would be pretty annoying and repetitive to have to say no to a great big deal of them. Which is why, if they go the "all bi" route, I'd want less of them to hit on me, and more needing the player character to activate the romance path. Though some characters should hit on you. I'm just saying, keeping it low, so it doesn't become annoying and repetitive.

I've thought about this...they can have the PC initiate the 'romance' from a purely technical perspective with a simple click of one dialog option and then have the LI flirt and intitate contact, whatever...only after the player gave input.

An obvious way to do this is with the heart icon from DA2.  If you click it, you start the romance from a meta-perspective and possibly an in-universe one as well.  The dialog attached to the heart icon doesn't have to be flirty (it wasn't always in DA2), so it wouldn't seem as if your PC is making the first move (in this case).  However, behind the scenes, the potential romance is activated and the LI can feel free to be flirty, gropey, etc. in future dialog.

Indeed. They could even do two starters, one where the PC takes the lead by being openly flirty and another one where the romance is simply initiated (from a meta perspective, probably with an ambigous line), but where the NPC would get to make the first move (assuming it makes sense for the NPC). It wouldn't be that hard to implement for the romance starters.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 10 août 2011 - 08:42 .

[jlb524]

Clonedzero wrote...
sure, not everyone would be able to romance exactly who they wanted, but it'd feel more realistic and would make it easier for them to be written really well. plus you wouldnt have to get into that awkward "well he's only bi if you romance him as a man, if you're female then he's straight" weird stuff. plus you could actually reference their sexual preference without it causing problems.

It's already the case that you can't romance everyone you want (Kasumi, for example).

They don't really reference sexual preference, be it gay, straight, bisexual...why start now? Why should they?

Clonedzero wrote...
there was two really good gay characters in fallout: new vegas. not really romancable, but they were gay and lesbian respectively, and they both referenced that fact. they were my favorite followers too. you could hit on them as a straight character and get shut down, it was pretty cool.

like the samara romance, some characters should shoot you down. wouldnt it be interesting to be hitting on a female character in ME4 only for her to realize it alittle late and be like "ohhhhh, sorry shepard2, i'm a lesbian. no hard feelings though."

Characters shooting you down is fine...it's different when that character is an available LI with the time and rescources dedicated to romance and others are romancing them but you can't b/c of gender only.  The FO: NV characters weren't romanceable by anyone...if they were by s/s PCs only, you bet there would be loads of complaining from people b/c they couldn't do an o/s romance with them.

[Clonedzero]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

I wouldn't mind it, but I don't know if it would happen, considering that some of the squadmates may be merely temporary.

The ones that are the least temporary though?  Yeah, sure.  I'm always up for more choice.  We've been promised new LIs, and Vega's looking like to be one of them (though it's still not 100% confirmed), but what if Vega is not exactly everyone's cup of tea?  What do you tell the s/s players then? "Too bad, this new guy's all you're gonna get."

Expand our choices all the around the board and no one gets hurt.

i dont get this idea that everyone has to get exactly what they want.
if there was a character i really liked and she was strictly a lesbian i wouldnt be hurt by that. hurt? what a ridiculous thing to even say about a video game character, who's going to get hurt? lol

hell i think it'd be interesting if characters had predefined sexualities, it would make the writing easier to do and make all the characters feel much more real. making everyone bi just makes things generic, unspecific and bland. makes the characters feel like they arent sexual beings unless the player hits on them. unlifelike.

in DA2 the only character who was canonically bi, or at least the only one that ever mentioned it, actually references the f/f relationship in banter, and thats awesome.

bowing to the fans and trying to make absolutely everyone happy waters things down. it should be about quality, not quanitity.

[TMA LIVE]

bleetman wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

I know what it was like to be stuck with Bastila, and not having Juhani as an option. It sucked.

Want to swap?

You want Bastila, you can take her, and keep her.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 10 août 2011 - 08:45 .

[The Uncanny]

TMA LIVE wrote...

bleetman wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

I know what it was like to be stuck with Bastila, and not having Juhani as an option. It sucked.

Want to swap?

You want Bastila, you can take her, and keep her.

I want them both! 

[Siansonea]

Clonedzero wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

I wouldn't mind it, but I don't know if it would happen, considering that some of the squadmates may be merely temporary.

The ones that are the least temporary though?  Yeah, sure.  I'm always up for more choice.  We've been promised new LIs, and Vega's looking like to be one of them (though it's still not 100% confirmed), but what if Vega is not exactly everyone's cup of tea?  What do you tell the s/s players then? "Too bad, this new guy's all you're gonna get."

Expand our choices all the around the board and no one gets hurt.

i dont get this idea that everyone has to get exactly what they want.
if there was a character i really liked and she was strictly a lesbian i wouldnt be hurt by that. hurt? what a ridiculous thing to even say about a video game character, who's going to get hurt? lol

hell i think it'd be interesting if characters had predefined sexualities, it would make the writing easier to do and make all the characters feel much more real. making everyone bi just makes things generic, unspecific and bland. makes the characters feel like they arent sexual beings unless the player hits on them. unlifelike.

in DA2 the only character who was canonically bi, or at least the only one that ever mentioned it, actually references the f/f relationship in banter, and thats awesome.

bowing to the fans and trying to make absolutely everyone happy waters things down. it should be about quality, not quanitity.

When it's a small part of the game, like all romances are, why NOT give everyone what they want? This isn't Mass Effect: A Love Story. That's not even a mandatory part of the game. And this whole "quality/quantity" thing is a false dichotomy. You can have both.

[Zjarcal]

jlb524 wrote...

Characters shooting you down is fine...it's different when that character is an available LI with the time and rescources dedicated to romance and others are romancing them but you can't b/c of gender only.  The FO: NV characters weren't romanceable by anyone...if they were by s/s PCs only, you bet there would be loads of complaining from people b/c they couldn't do an o/s romance with them.

Indeedo. 

I don't like being told "no, you can't have them because you chose the wrong gender, start a new game playing as the opposite gender". Screw that, I want my cake and I want to eat it too.

If you alredy go to the trouble of making someone a LI, make that content available for as many people as possible.

[Jademoon121]

Clonedzero wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

I wouldn't mind it, but I don't know if it would happen, considering that some of the squadmates may be merely temporary.

The ones that are the least temporary though?  Yeah, sure.  I'm always up for more choice.  We've been promised new LIs, and Vega's looking like to be one of them (though it's still not 100% confirmed), but what if Vega is not exactly everyone's cup of tea?  What do you tell the s/s players then? "Too bad, this new guy's all you're gonna get."

Expand our choices all the around the board and no one gets hurt.

i dont get this idea that everyone has to get exactly what they want.
if there was a character i really liked and she was strictly a lesbian i wouldnt be hurt by that. hurt? what a ridiculous thing to even say about a video game character, who's going to get hurt? lol

hell i think it'd be interesting if characters had predefined sexualities, it would make the writing easier to do and make all the characters feel much more real. making everyone bi just makes things generic, unspecific and bland. makes the characters feel like they arent sexual beings unless the player hits on them. unlifelike.

in DA2 the only character who was canonically bi, or at least the only one that ever mentioned it, actually references the f/f relationship in banter, and thats awesome.

bowing to the fans and trying to make absolutely everyone happy waters things down. it should be about quality, not quanitity.

Problem though, straight players always have the majority of options. If you're a guy, you can romance Leliana or Morrigan, the traditional "Nice girl and Bad girl" dichotomy. But if you where playing a lesbian or are one yourself, you're stuck with only one option, and a lot of GLBT guys, like me, felt a little ticked when we could only romance the metrosexual elf, and not the rugged and helarious bastard prince.
Mods where made, lots of them.

Modifié par Jademoon121, 10 août 2011 - 08:59 .

[jlb524]

Clonedzero wrote...
i dont get this idea that everyone has to get exactly what they want.
if there was a character i really liked and she was strictly a lesbian i wouldnt be hurt by that. hurt? what a ridiculous thing to even say about a video game character, who's going to get hurt? lol

Well, when others have what you want and it wouldn't take that much effort to let you have it too...it's frustrating.

Clonedzero wrote...
hell i think it'd be interesting if characters had predefined sexualities, it would make the writing easier to do and make all the characters feel much more real. making everyone bi just makes things generic, unspecific and bland. makes the characters feel like they arent sexual beings unless the player hits on them. unlifelike.

These romances are already generic for reasons other than sexuality...as I keep on saying.  But you don't have a problem with that it seems

Clonedzero wrote...
in DA2 the only character who was canonically bi, or at least the only one that ever mentioned it, actually references the f/f relationship in banter, and thats awesome.

Both f/f LIs bring up the relationship with Lady Hawke in banter...in DA2.  DA:O failed to do this with Leliana though.

Funny enough, loads people hold up the Leliana f/f romance and claim 'this is how it 'should' be done!'

Modifié par jlb524, 10 août 2011 - 08:57 .

[MACharlie1]

All bi love interests. I think either way, people are going to be unhappy:

If all love interests are bi, then you have people complaining how it was a "copy and paste" romance and the characters didn't really recognize their player properly as a man/woman.

If they aren't then people complain that they are stuck with a love interest they don't like.

If there was multiple trees of dialogs for each sex then great. However, realistically, it might not be worth it in the end to script and record lines all over again.

AND because of one set being copy and pasted, there are certain characters whose romance arcs just wouldn't work for an same/opposite sex; Alistair's romance would never work for a man - no matter how cute and loveable he is. The whole rose thing - as a man - I don't want flowers tbh. Morrigan - it can work but it doesn't work as well (maybe thats just an opinion) as the "sisters but I need to sleep with your boyfriend to save you guys".

And that's just Dragon Age Origins - which I think had a better character-to-player interaction. All of Mass Effect's romances are pretty interchangeable.

[Clonedzero]

jlb524 wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...
sure, not everyone would be able to romance exactly who they wanted, but it'd feel more realistic and would make it easier for them to be written really well. plus you wouldnt have to get into that awkward "well he's only bi if you romance him as a man, if you're female then he's straight" weird stuff. plus you could actually reference their sexual preference without it causing problems.

It's already the case that you can't romance everyone you want (Kasumi, for example).

They don't really reference sexual preference, be it gay, straight, bisexual...why start now? Why should they?

Clonedzero wrote...
there was two really good gay characters in fallout: new vegas. not really romancable, but they were gay and lesbian respectively, and they both referenced that fact. they were my favorite followers too. you could hit on them as a straight character and get shut down, it was pretty cool.

like the samara romance, some characters should shoot you down. wouldnt it be interesting to be hitting on a female character in ME4 only for her to realize it alittle late and be like "ohhhhh, sorry shepard2, i'm a lesbian. no hard feelings though."

Characters shooting you down is fine...it's different when that character is an available LI with the time and rescources dedicated to romance and others are romancing them but you can't b/c of gender only.  The FO: NV characters weren't romanceable by anyone...if they were by s/s PCs only, you bet there would be loads of complaining from people b/c they couldn't do an o/s romance with them.

why not? people complain about everything. trying to make absolutely everyone happy is impossible. what would be wrong with people having predetermined sexual orientations? why cant a character be strictly straight? or strictly gay? because some people might not be able to romance them? wtf? thats so ridiculous.

characters should be believable fully written characters. not weird constructs that change and bend to the will of the player. your sexual orientation is part of who you are, how big of a part depends on the person obviously, but its still part of you, swapping out character traits and backstory simply to suit the players choices is silly and unnecessary.

in ME2, i usually romance miranda in a majority of my playthroughs. if she was strictly a lesbian character i wouldnt get all upset, i'd either not romance anyone or romance jack.

i hate this "i want it so give it to me! if they get it i want it too!" attitude. yeah they should absolutely have romantic options for everyone. but it should be predetermined. if vega is strictly gay, which would be cool, he could reference his exboyfriend or something. it could full out his character more.

having everyone be sexually neutral till the player picks one sorta sucks the life out of the writing. as would having everyone behave straight till they picked the dialogue option to start a bi romance, since that'd be just as bad.

why can't one character be straight and another be gay? just because someone would complain? screw that, let them complain.

[Jademoon121]

Clonedzero wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...
sure, not everyone would be able to romance exactly who they wanted, but it'd feel more realistic and would make it easier for them to be written really well. plus you wouldnt have to get into that awkward "well he's only bi if you romance him as a man, if you're female then he's straight" weird stuff. plus you could actually reference their sexual preference without it causing problems.

It's already the case that you can't romance everyone you want (Kasumi, for example).

They don't really reference sexual preference, be it gay, straight, bisexual...why start now? Why should they?

Clonedzero wrote...
there was two really good gay characters in fallout: new vegas. not really romancable, but they were gay and lesbian respectively, and they both referenced that fact. they were my favorite followers too. you could hit on them as a straight character and get shut down, it was pretty cool.

like the samara romance, some characters should shoot you down. wouldnt it be interesting to be hitting on a female character in ME4 only for her to realize it alittle late and be like "ohhhhh, sorry shepard2, i'm a lesbian. no hard feelings though."

Characters shooting you down is fine...it's different when that character is an available LI with the time and rescources dedicated to romance and others are romancing them but you can't b/c of gender only.  The FO: NV characters weren't romanceable by anyone...if they were by s/s PCs only, you bet there would be loads of complaining from people b/c they couldn't do an o/s romance with them.

why not? people complain about everything. trying to make absolutely everyone happy is impossible. what would be wrong with people having predetermined sexual orientations? why cant a character be strictly straight? or strictly gay? because some people might not be able to romance them? wtf? thats so ridiculous.

characters should be believable fully written characters. not weird constructs that change and bend to the will of the player. your sexual orientation is part of who you are, how big of a part depends on the person obviously, but its still part of you, swapping out character traits and backstory simply to suit the players choices is silly and unnecessary.

in ME2, i usually romance miranda in a majority of my playthroughs. if she was strictly a lesbian character i wouldnt get all upset, i'd either not romance anyone or romance jack.

i hate this "i want it so give it to me! if they get it i want it too!" attitude. yeah they should absolutely have romantic options for everyone. but it should be predetermined. if vega is strictly gay, which would be cool, he could reference his exboyfriend or something. it could full out his character more.

having everyone be sexually neutral till the player picks one sorta sucks the life out of the writing. as would having everyone behave straight till they picked the dialogue option to start a bi romance, since that'd be just as bad.

why can't one character be straight and another be gay? just because someone would complain? screw that, let them complain.

Actually, allowing the majority of LI's being open to both sexes opens many doors for writing if done right. You're underestemating the power of a good story.

[Finis Valorum]

Siansonea II wrote...

Just out of curiosity, who among us is advocating that ALL the LIs be made bisexual? For the record, I am not one of those people, I'm just curious as to why this is such a hot-button issue.

I do, in the absence of specially designed gay Li's it's the best option since it assures me I'll have the same choices of the same attractiveness that everyone else does (in that regard it might actually be superior to a specially designed gay Li considering there's still an alarming tendency for gay characters to fall into a range of undesirable stereotypes).

However I still think ME3 is going to be more like DA:O than DA2 when it comes to romance, and since it looks like Vega's going to be the m/m option for this game it looks like I'm out of luck.

[Clonedzero]

jlb524 wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...
i dont get this idea that everyone has to get exactly what they want.
if there was a character i really liked and she was strictly a lesbian i wouldnt be hurt by that. hurt? what a ridiculous thing to even say about a video game character, who's going to get hurt? lol

Well, when others have what you want and it wouldn't take that much effort to let you have it too...it's frustrating.

Clonedzero wrote...
hell i think it'd be interesting if characters had predefined sexualities, it would make the writing easier to do and make all the characters feel much more real. making everyone bi just makes things generic, unspecific and bland. makes the characters feel like they arent sexual beings unless the player hits on them. unlifelike.

These romances are already generic for reasons other than sexuality...as I keep on saying.  But you don't have a problem with that it seems

you're not going to make everyone happy regardless, so let people have to move on to their second choice, its not a huge deal.

and i do have a problem with them being generic, thats why i keep saying qualitiy over quanitity. the more options you have, regardless of whether they're straight, gay or bi, the quality is going to suffer.

thats exactly why im saying, if a character is bi, actually write that character as being bi and have the relationship reflect that. (and yes, even having a m/f relationship with someone who's straight and you're bi or the other way around, its gonna come up at some point). or if a character is straight, actually have them be straight and write it that way, if a character is gay, write them as gay. ect.

it'd be MUCH easier to have high quality romances with predetermined orientations. i completely agree that they're still a bit lackluster, but tahts why im against keeping things generic.

[gamer_girl]

Clonedzero wrote...

why not? people complain about everything. trying to make absolutely everyone happy is impossible. what would be wrong with people having predetermined sexual orientations? why cant a character be strictly straight? or strictly gay? because some people might not be able to romance them? wtf? thats so ridiculous.

characters should be believable fully written characters. not weird constructs that change and bend to the will of the player. your sexual orientation is part of who you are, how big of a part depends on the person obviously, but its still part of you, swapping out character traits and backstory simply to suit the players choices is silly and unnecessary.

in ME2, i usually romance miranda in a majority of my playthroughs. if she was strictly a lesbian character i wouldnt get all upset, i'd either not romance anyone or romance jack.

i hate this "i want it so give it to me! if they get it i want it too!" attitude. yeah they should absolutely have romantic options for everyone. but it should be predetermined. if vega is strictly gay, which would be cool, he could reference his exboyfriend or something. it could full out his character more.

having everyone be sexually neutral till the player picks one sorta sucks the life out of the writing. as would having everyone behave straight till they picked the dialogue option to start a bi romance, since that'd be just as bad.

why can't one character be straight and another be gay? just because someone would complain? screw that, let them complain.

to answer:

Siansonea II wrote...

When it's a small part of the game, like all romances are, why NOT give
everyone what they want? This isn't Mass Effect: A Love Story. That's
not even a mandatory part of the game. And this whole "quality/quantity"
thing is a false dichotomy. You can have both.

[Eternal Dust]

TMA LIVE wrote...

 I know what it was like to be stuck with Bastila, and not having Juhani as an option. It sucked.

Jennifer Hale + English accent = mindsplosion

It's funny though. Juhani is Jack in ME. ZOMG just give me both dammit.

[jlb524]

Clonedzero wrote...
why not? people complain about everything. trying to make absolutely everyone happy is impossible. what would be wrong with people having predetermined sexual orientations? why cant a character be strictly straight? or strictly gay? because some people might not be able to romance them? wtf? thats so ridiculous.

characters should be believable fully written characters. not weird constructs that change and bend to the will of the player. your sexual orientation is part of who you are, how big of a part depends on the person obviously, but its still part of you, swapping out character traits and backstory simply to suit the players choices is silly and unnecessary.

If they do that for sexuality, they should do it for everything else pertaining to a character (morality, race, class, history, etc.)...I keep beating people over the head with this and some just aren't getting it.  BW doesn't do this.  I've explained why I think they don't.  They keep these romances 'generic' from the PCs perspective and focus more on the LI and the relationship to allow RP choices regardless of who/what your PC is.

Clonedzero wrote...
in ME2, i usually romance miranda in a majority of my playthroughs. if she was strictly a lesbian character i wouldnt get all upset, i'd either not romance anyone or romance jack.

That's 'you' but do you honestly feel the majority would feel that way?

Clonedzero wrote...
i hate this "i want it so give it to me! if they get it i want it too!" attitude. yeah they should absolutely have romantic options for everyone. but it should be predetermined. if vega is strictly gay, which would be cool, he could reference his exboyfriend or something. it could full out his character more.

having everyone be sexually neutral till the player picks one sorta sucks the life out of the writing. as would having everyone behave straight till they picked the dialogue option to start a bi romance, since that'd be just as bad.

why can't one character be straight and another be gay? just because someone would complain? screw that, let them complain.

Why can't they limit romances based on Shepard being Paragon/Renegade?  Earthborn/Spacer? 

If they did, people would complain about choices being limited just the same. 

Romantic options for the PC are predetermined.  They select a handful of them and create content for it.  BW chooses to allow practically any PC to romance these characters regardless of anything else about that PC besides possibly gender.  That is how all their romances work.  You are only concerned with sexuality though.

[Chun Hei]

I do not mind ALL LI being "bi" in theory but I think too many LIs in ME2 made some characters suffer.

If you can START a new romance with an old character in ME3 I would be all for the s/s option but I doubt that Shepard will be able to START a new romance with anyone who is not a permanent part of the team. From what I have heard about ME3 so far most of the ME2 guys will be getting the LofSB treatment where I am guessing a romance already started in ME2 can continue but that is it.

But I could be wrong.