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[Clonedzero]

MACharlie1 wrote...


Because people here want Joker for their manShep and thats gay which is interfering with his manliness. Don't you know? 

im not insulting anyone, why are you insulting me?

[Chun Hei]

I play gay men all the time in DA2 and Fenris does not flirt with Sir Hawke unless flirted with first and even then he does not flirt but expresses pleasant surprise. Anders gets his hopes up for the "nice" Sir Hawke but Hawke still has to actively romance him for it to go anywhere.

[Arik7]

Abispa wrote...

TommyServo wrote...

I don't know about Fenris. He says something complimentary maybe, but the onus is on you to hit that heart. I remember the exact moment to which you're referring, though I don't remember his exact words, but it didn't seem like he was hitting on Hawke at all.

Apparently complimenting a man while not crushing a beer can on your forehead is now considered "gay." Perhaps Fenris should belch more often and use "..., bro!" after every line of dialog directed at another male character.

Fenris should add `no ******` after every sentence to make sure Twizz089 is comfortable with him.

[Twizz089]

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I didntt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet i had to reject them.

 I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Modifié par Twizz089, 10 août 2011 - 10:42 .

[Jademoon121]

Arik7 wrote...

Abispa wrote...

TommyServo wrote...

I don't know about Fenris. He says something complimentary maybe, but the onus is on you to hit that heart. I remember the exact moment to which you're referring, though I don't remember his exact words, but it didn't seem like he was hitting on Hawke at all.

Apparently complimenting a man while not crushing a beer can on your forehead is now considered "gay." Perhaps Fenris should belch more often and use "..., bro!" after every line of dialog directed at another male character.

Fenris should add `no ******` after every sentence to make sure Twizz089 is comfortable with him.

God I hate it when people say that....

[Jademoon121]

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I dindt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet.

 I I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

[Clonedzero]

Chun Hei wrote...

I play gay men all the time in DA2 and Fenris does not flirt with Sir Hawke unless flirted with first and even then he does not flirt but expresses pleasant surprise. Anders gets his hopes up for the "nice" Sir Hawke but Hawke still has to actively romance him for it to go anywhere.

he does. after you get him the mansion and you're having the talk in his newly aquired house in front of the fire place, fenris will hit on you. i cant remember what he says exactly, but when you turn him down he's all like "oh i meant nothing by it"

and it was just the fact they both hit on you. which isnt really a bad thing, but its not following what is generally said about those romances which are that they have their sexualities determined by the choices you make, thats not true. they both hit on you.

this type of thing wouldnt work for mass effect. since they're all established characters.

[jlb524]

Clonedzero wrote...

this is the most widely effecting issue though. it snot just a single character its effecting. hence why commenting here is more worthwhile than saying anything in another thread. and this is the thing thats actually going to effect ME3. i HIGHLY doubt there would ever actually be a joker romance

You are assuming this will affect old LIs...we don't know that yet.

I'd say it's more likely Joker will be a romance vs. all the past LIs being bisexual.

Plus, how would this affect ME3 any differently than a Joker romance?  Especially considering that romances are totally optional.

Clonedzero wrote...
he does. after you get him the mansion and you're having the talk in his newly aquired house in front of the fire
place, fenris will hit on you. i cant remember what he says exactly, but when you turn him down he's all like "oh i meant nothing by it"

Yes, he says 'I meant nothing by it' b/c he didn't mean anything by it...Hawke assumes he did.

"OMG, dude is being nice to me...no ****** man!  No ******!"

Modifié par jlb524, 10 août 2011 - 10:44 .

[shepskisaac]

Clonedzero wrote...

this type of thing wouldnt work for mass effect. since they're all established characters.

Yep. It wouldn't make sense to them to hit on Shep if they didn't do that before. But it doesn't mean they can't be into Shep nonetheless and be up for a romance if approached by Shep.

[Twizz089]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I dindt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet.

 I I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

My male friends dont turn gay after Im nice to them for a week or pick the heart option in conversations, so no.

[Clonedzero]

Jademoon121 wrote...



Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

but they're established characters who have been straight for 2 games lol, it would be extremely weird for someone to suddenly hit on you after all that time.

i didnt get upset in DA2 since they were new characters, i turned them down and kept playing and it was fine.

[Arik7]

Twizz089 wrote...
My male friends dont turn gay after Im nice to them for a week or pick the heart option in conversations, so no.

Mine do.  Perhaps they just don`t find you attractive 

[Jademoon121]

Twizz089 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I dindt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet.

 I I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

My male friends dont turn gay after Im nice to them for a week or pick the heart option in conversations, so no.

So don't pick the optional dialogue that initiates the romance.

[Jademoon121]

Clonedzero wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...



Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

but they're established characters who have been straight for 2 games lol, it would be extremely weird for someone to suddenly hit on you after all that time.

i didnt get upset in DA2 since they were new characters, i turned them down and kept playing and it was fine.

Oh, you'd be surprised. Life and death situations has a habit in people discovering something about themselves.

[Clonedzero]

IsaacShep wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

this type of thing wouldnt work for mass effect. since they're all established characters.

Yep. It wouldn't make sense to them to hit on Shep if they didn't do that before. But it doesn't mean they can't be into Shep nonetheless and be up for a romance if approached by Shep.

exactly. any established characters who have an s/s option should be strictly player activated. new characters hitting on you is cool though. like if vega comes on to me that'd be fine, if kaidan did it then it wouldnt make sense. especially in context of my roleplaying.

[bleetman]

I like that limitation apparently translates into depth, as though characters are water in a bucket and spreads thinner the wider the bucket becomes, or that bi-sexuals are inherently more shallow than heterosexual people. Look at them, showing romantic interest in both genders! How pedestrian.

Modifié par bleetman, 10 août 2011 - 10:48 .

[Twizz089]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I dindt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet.

 I I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

My male friends dont turn gay after Im nice to them for a week or pick the heart option in conversations, so no.

So don't pick the optional dialogue that initiates the romance.

Hard to do when the optional dialogue is also the same dialogue that allows me to get to know them better

[Abispa]

I play as three straight male Hawke and I have NEVER been flirted with by a male character who wasn't a prostitute. I even avoided the infamous Anders "ninjamance" because my "nice" Hawke was justifiably POed at Anders during that scene and did not blindly choose the nice option because it was on top of the menu.

Granted Fenris did tend to be very complimentary at times, but if you paid attention to his character he likes to overcompensate for all the times he blows his stack and lashes out at Hawke. Since I do tend to leave the house and interact with real people on occasion I found that personality trait to be pretty believable.

Unless you actively romance Fenris there is NOTHING gay about him unless you believe that being a "man" means being a obnoxious lout with a crass sense of humor.

[Arik7]

Clonedzero wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

this type of thing wouldnt work for mass effect. since they're all established characters.

Yep. It wouldn't make sense to them to hit on Shep if they didn't do that before. But it doesn't mean they can't be into Shep nonetheless and be up for a romance if approached by Shep.

exactly. any established characters who have an s/s option should be strictly player activated. new characters hitting on you is cool though. like if vega comes on to me that'd be fine, if kaidan did it then it wouldnt make sense. especially in context of my roleplaying.

That would work..... 

[Jademoon121]

Twizz089 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I dindt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet.

 I I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

My male friends dont turn gay after Im nice to them for a week or pick the heart option in conversations, so no.

So don't pick the optional dialogue that initiates the romance.

Hard to do when the optional dialogue is also the same dialogue that allows me to get to know them better

Then turn them down, and make up for the lost brownie points.

[Arik7]

Twizz089 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I dindt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet.

 I I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

Oh boo hoo. You get hit on, you turn them down, and they dislike you a bit for it. Like that never happens in reality.

My male friends dont turn gay after Im nice to them for a week or pick the heart option in conversations, so no.

So don't pick the optional dialogue that initiates the romance.

Hard to do when the optional dialogue is also the same dialogue that allows me to get to know them better

LMAO.....

[Sunnie]

Twizz089 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...
No they both initiates flirting with the PC, and all the LI were flirting with me, therefore my party consisted of two gay guys, a ugly elf, a dwarf, and the infamous isabella.  If the  romances are restricted to the party memebers, there is nothing wrong with Bi options  if you can "mold" your characters to be gay, I should be able to "mold" mine to be straight.  This was not the case in DA2 as all the males in my game were gay. (not counting the dwarf) Thats only fair right?

Next time try harder not to click the heart icon and Fenris will not flirt with you.  You can treat him like a straight `bro` if you want.  Varric, Carver (duh!) and Sebastian do not flirt with and are not available to the male PC.   More `bro`s for you to befriend.  So please don`t scream that you`re being surrounded by gay men in DA2. 

What exactly are you asking for.  Fewer than 2 LI choices is no choice at all.  

Did you have a playthrough as a straight male?  Both Fenris and Anders starting flirting with me if I was too nice. I didntt have to pick the silly heart, after they had already came out the closet i had to reject them.

 I dont want this in ME3  I would prefer character sexuality to be unique to them, this allows for more depth in all the romance options.  However if the cheap and easy route of making all LI Bi is taken, make it so that the characters can at least stay straight if the player wishes.

I'm not sure what world you are from, or what DA2 you have been playing, but neither Anders or Fenris will hit on you unless you select the heart answer that initiates YOUR intention. Also not sure how you are "surrounded by gay men", since males can only romance Fenris and Anders. The ONLY character that will flirt with Hawke, whether male or female, is Isabela, because thats her character, thats who she is.  It also isn't going to do you any good to come into a s/s support thread and cry about how you don't want the gays in your game. It's a done deal, theres no more possibility for anyones feedback to sway the decision one way or the other. 

So why exactly are you here crying about gay content? What do you hope to gain by it? Do you have some goal or are you just here to troll the thread with anti-gay discussion? Honestly, I have a hard time deciding what it is your intent is here.

[bleetman]

Abispa wrote...

Unless you actively romance Fenris there is NOTHING gay about him unless you believe that being a "man" means being a obnoxious lout with a crass sense of humor.

Hey, Oghren totally propositions the Warden in camp that one time.

[Servo to the bitter end]

Clonedzero wrote...
]exactly. any established characters who have an s/s option should be strictly player activated. new characters hitting on you is cool though. like if vega comes on to me that'd be fine, if kaidan did it then it wouldnt make sense. especially in context of my roleplaying.

Bolded because that's important.

Suppose in the context of my roleplaying, he'd been chomping at the bit since day 1, and only worked up the courage to say so in act 3, when Shepard, against all odds, returned from the dead?

You have a point about it being player initiated, though. I'm ok with that.

The "established character argument" has to go though. Seriously.

Modifié par TommyServo, 10 août 2011 - 10:52 .

[Abispa]

bleetman wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Unless you actively romance Fenris there is NOTHING gay about him unless you believe that being a "man" means being a obnoxious lout with a crass sense of humor.

Hey, Oghren totally propositions the Warden in camp that one time.

Dog damned bisexual Dwarven bastard ruined my immersion!