Modifié par AmyMac, 25 août 2011 - 03:51 .
bleetman wrote...
Even if Anders were completely homosexual, rather than bi-sexual, I'd have a hard time seeing him rejecting a female Hawke. The man's an emotional wreck and clings to her like a drowning man to a life-raft, he's not about to turn someone away based on whether they're an in-y or an out-y.
Well I was grouping Urz under dogsAbispa wrote...
Sepewrath wrote...
Well if people have it their way, I would say, everyone in the galaxy, dogs, cats, houseplants, Harbinger, penguins, hats, the Declaration of Independence, Qunari and sneakers.Celestina wrote...
Just curious, who do you guys think will be swingin' both ways this time around?
I can't believe you forgor Urz. Damn you.
isn't Liara asexual and not considered f/f?IsaacShep wrote...
FemShep's s/s LIs IMO: Liara's granted etc + either Ashley or new female or both. These 3 are absolutely max IMO, especially considering there will also be Kelly continuation.
octoberfire wrote...
isn't Liara asexual and not considered f/f?
MACharlie1 wrote...
Really. That is interesting....maybe we should find a random Canadian and ask them since I'm American North East.Chun Hei wrote...
MACharlie1 wrote...
I have honestly never heard anyone refer to a "girls club" as a sexual sort of thing. Just like I've never heard of a "mens club" to be a sexual sort of thing or at least a homosexual sort of thing...girls club in mainstream America typically refers to a club (as in a group of girls who share a common interest) of exclusively girls doing girl things like gossiping, and enforcing the "no boys allowed! :P".ChaplainTappman wrote...
Okay, Rawles. You win. It's a well known fact that there's no room for interpretation in a matter that has no official answer. Obviously Jack's not rebuffing perceived advances. Obviously she's talking about a platonic friendship with FemShep. That's patently obvious, and anyone who suggests otherwise is mentally deficient and should be euthanized.
Seriously. Do a google search on girls club. Nothing refers to any sort of homosexual tendencies. I think you are thinking of a "club" like a bar. Not as in "the babysitters club!".
Actually "I am not a member of the girls' club" or "boys' club" is a pretty popular "gentle" turn down of a s/s proposition here in the American midwest. I have used it myself a couple of times.
You mean the cake was a lie?KawaiiKatie wrote...
octoberfire wrote...
isn't Liara asexual and not considered f/f?
Awww, you assume that Bioware-reasoning is consistent! How cute!
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octoberfire wrote...
You mean the cake was a lie?KawaiiKatie wrote...
octoberfire wrote...
isn't Liara asexual and not considered f/f?
Awww, you assume that Bioware-reasoning is consistent! How cute!
Trevbo wrote...
When i think of the term "boys' club" i think of a woman trying to break into some sort organization that is predominately men. ie. "I can't get a promotion because this place is a fraking boys' club." I would assume "girls' club" meant something similar. I however have never played as femshep (I like looking at Mansheps ass too much) so I have no opinion on the scene in question.
IsaacShep wrote...
FemShep's s/s LIs IMO: Liara's granted etc + either Ashley or new female or both. These 3 are absolutely max IMO, especially considering there will also be Kelly continuation.
When was that confirmed? *does a dance of joy*
Modifié par brain_damage, 25 août 2011 - 10:27 .
Love how it's basically now becoming a standard. About time. At the same time the decision to exclude s/s relationships from TOR looks even worse now.lazuli wrote...
This is a little off topic, but Skyrim has same-sex marriage in it. I was just going to let this game slide on by, but maybe now I'll check it out.
If you read the comments, the 'arguments' are exactly the same as here - relligion, 'choice', blah blah blah.lazuli wrote...
I don't see this causing a huge controversy. Likewise, I don't see ME3's SS options causing a huge controversy either- outside of these boards, that is.
Modifié par IsaacShep, 25 août 2011 - 03:13 .
lazuli wrote...
This is a little off topic, but Skyrim has same-sex marriage in it. I was just going to let this game slide on by, but maybe now I'll check it out.
I don't see this causing a huge controversy. Likewise, I don't see ME3's SS options causing a huge controversy either- outside of these boards, that is.
I love the Elder Scrolls games (not as much as ME of course!) so I'm really excited to hear about this. As far as controversy, apparantly IGN and Gameinformer have already found out about it, but the comments are apparently positive. I haven't read them myself though. And on the Bethesda forums, there are a lot of people who are for it, and a lot of people who are against it, as far as I can tell.
You know what hey say about BioWare fans; They would tap everything.Sepewrath wrote...
Well if people have it their way, I would say, everyone in the galaxy, dogs, cats, houseplants, Harbinger, penguins, hats, the Declaration of Independence, Qunari and sneakers.Celestina wrote...
Just curious, who do you guys think will be swingin' both ways this time around?
IsaacShep wrote...
If you read the comments, the 'arguments' are exactly the same as here - relligion, 'choice', blah blah blah.
Neither did s/s romances from ME3. Of course all the gaming websites report on it, just as they do now with Skyrim, but that's it.lazuli wrote...
Yes, but I don't see this making it into the news or anything, at least not on a large scale.
The same as it would've gone with Jade Empire, Bully, KOTOR, Fable, The Sims, Fallout 2 and other games that had gay relationships yet no one really gave a crap except for homophobes whining on the internet. It most likely wouldn't have been 'announced' at all (if you consider tweets as "Official Huge Announcement") and just be discovered by the players. BioWare dropped the ball on ME1, now they're doing it again with TOR. It's like one step forward, one step backwards. Meanwhile, other devs are catching up.lazuli wrote...
I wonder how this would have gone over at the time of ME1's release, though.
Modifié par IsaacShep, 25 août 2011 - 03:42 .
I have a serious hard time believing it's Bioware pulling this string here. There is no doubt in my mind that the decision was a LucasArts one. It's...difficult to work for an actual existing franchise rather then your own.IsaacShep wrote...
The same as it would've gone with Jade Empire, Bully, KOTOR, Fable, The Sims, Fallout 2 and other games that had gay relationships yet no one really gave a crap except for homophobes whining on the internet. It most likely wouldn't have been 'announced' at all (if you consider tweets as "Official Huge Announcement") and just be discovered by the players. BioWare dropped the ball on ME1, now they're doing it again with TOR. It's like one step forward, one step backwards. Meanwhile, other devs are catching up.lazuli wrote...
I wonder how this would have gone over at the time of ME1's release, though.
And I have a hard time believing LA didn't allow it, considering there are officially canon gay characters in Star Wars, including two married gay Mandalorians, one of whom is a right-hand of Boba Fett. And they even have an adoptive daughter. And then, there's this: click (read post by Darth_Eclipses).MACharlie1 wrote...
I have a serious hard time believing it's Bioware pulling this string here. There is no doubt in my mind that the decision was a LucasArts one. It's...difficult to work for an actual existing franchise rather then your own.
There are thousands of characters in Star Wars. And only four of them are homosexual. One of them severely butchered. And two of them are by Karen Traviss who I understand had a tense relationship with the franchise. And the third is Belaya just for reference.The direction that Lucas has really been taking in recent years - since keep in mind that KOTOR was almost ten years ago - with this Clone Wars thing and it's for the kids blah blah blah - it just seems obvious that Lucas doesn't want any...themes that someone will argue conflicts with a childs wellbeing. Whether it actually conflicts with a child's well being is irrelevant.IsaacShep wrote...
And I have a hard time believing LA didn't allow it, considering there are officially canon gay characters in Star Wars, including two married gay Mandalorians, one of whom is a right-hand of Boba Fett. And they even have an adoptive daughter. And then, there's this: click (read post by Darth_Eclipses).MACharlie1 wrote...
I have a serious hard time believing it's Bioware pulling this string here. There is no doubt in my mind that the decision was a LucasArts one. It's...difficult to work for an actual existing franchise rather then your own.
All 3 companies involved in TOR have history of inclusion of LGBT characters/themes. Yet there won't be such in TOR. I don't know who's decision it was, but I ain't gonna jump on "Ohh it's surely LA" conclusion immediately.
IsaacShep wrote...
And I have a hard time believing LA didn't allow it, considering there are officially canon gay characters in Star Wars, including two married gay Mandalorians, one of whom is a right-hand of Boba Fett. And they even have an adoptive daughter. And then, there's this: click (read post by Darth_Eclipses).
All 3 companies involved in TOR have history of inclusion of LGBT characters/themes. Yet there won't be such in TOR. I don't know who's decision it was, but I ain't gonna jump on "Ohh it's surely LA" conclusion immediately.
Modifié par Quething, 25 août 2011 - 04:15 .
It's worth noting that, about a year and a half ago, there was something of a crusade, directed by LA, to reformat what is and isn't canon, or at least to what degree something is canon. One of the instigating issues was the gay Mandalorians; they were relegated to a lower tier of canon than the competing (i.e., not gay) vision of the Mandalorians presented by the Clone Wars tv series. The best Karen Traviss' gay Mandalorians can get at this point is "kind of canon." So LA has a history of, if not denying gay characters' existence, relegating them to a limbo state of canon. I suspect the call for TOR came from LA, and not anywhere else.IsaacShep wrote...
And I have a hard time believing LA didn't allow it, considering there are officially canon gay characters in Star Wars, including two married gay Mandalorians, one of whom is a right-hand of Boba Fett. And they even have an adoptive daughter. And then, there's this: click (read post by Darth_Eclipses).
All 3 companies involved in TOR have history of inclusion of LGBT characters/themes. Yet there won't be such in TOR. I don't know who's decision it was, but I ain't gonna jump on "Ohh it's surely LA" conclusion immediately.
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