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[RAF1940]

As long as I can forge friendships without automatic romance, I'm good.

[Ghost Warrior]

RAF1940 wrote...

As long as I can forge friendships without automatic romance, I'm good.

Me too.

[Tag1701]

I think this is an excellent path for Bioware to take. Anything that allows the player to have a more personalized experience is definitely a step in the right direction.

I'm bi myself and have to admit that, Kaiden was kind of cute and if I ever played a male Shep, (too in love with Hale's voice acting, and don't care for Meer myself) I could see my Shep going for him. I think that personality and mannerism wise as well, it wouldn't be too hard to paint him as Bi without it seeming contrived and unnatural.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how s/s options playout in game.

[ScotGaymer]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

As long as I can forge friendships without automatic romance, I'm good.

Me too.

Me three.

[ArawnNox]

Been ducked out for a couple of weeks. Any news I may have missed?

[ElitePinecone]

ArawnNox wrote...

Been ducked out for a couple of weeks. Any news I may have missed?

Not really. Bioware have said they aren't going to reveal anything until the game is released. 

[Bismth]

Kalex would make a great S/S LI everyone join the support group for this amazing idea

[Siansonea]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

As long as I can forge friendships without automatic romance, I'm good.

Me too.

Me three.

Me four. I've never liked that with the o/s romances, I still wouldn't like that with s/s romances. Can't a person just be nice?

[Abispa]

Can you imagine a multiplayer Bioware game that allowed player romances? Some players may decide they actually want to keep the spirit of Bioware LIs alive by role-playing their characters to fall in love and begin stalking anyone who says something nice to them!

They could form a guild called "The Children of Liara" and practice such ninjamancing techniques as "the Leliana Maneuver." I could just see it now.

PLAYER ONE: "Good game, Player Two! I enjoyed helping you slay that dragon!"

PLAYER THREE: "Wait a second, you bastard! You were nice to ME yesterday! What about that helmet you gave me? Does it mean nothing to you!?"

PLAYER TWO: "What the hell are trying to do, Player One? You think you're some kind of playa?"

PLAYER ONE: [Begins running away screaming!] "AAAA! Player Four, help me! Cover my escape!"

PLAYER FOUR: "Help you out? Hey, no ******, bro."

[vorianxavier]

Abispa wrote...

PLAYER ONE: [Begins running away screaming!] "AAAA! Player Four, help me! Cover my escape!"

PLAYER FOUR: "Help you out? Hey, no ******, bro."

"Can saving your life wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations."

[Chun Hei]

I want Shepard to have a good game even if s/he has no LI and just wants to be friends with or a stern CO with his/her crew.

[gamer_girl]

MACharlie1 wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Old enough to be a father of an adult child WITHOUT having to have been a horny teenager.

People on this board make me feel so young I love it Even though I assume for whatever reason everyone here is my age - early/mid 20s xD

...Wow I feel incredibly young now. I just turned 18. :happy:

You just made me feel kind of old... 

< 21 next month 

Think of it this way - we both became legal adults where we live at around the same time.
Pretty much no difference if you look at it that way.

[Swords and Lasers]

Siansonea II wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

As long as I can forge friendships without automatic romance, I'm good.

Me too.

Me three.

Me four. I've never liked that with the o/s romances, I still wouldn't like that with s/s romances. Can't a person just be nice?

Myself as well. One of the things about I disliked about DA2 was how forceful Anders was. Give the player the option to intiate flirting first. I don't need my wife asking "wtf are you playing?:blink:" when Garrus starts wispering sweet nothings in Male Shep's ear.

[Dhiro]

Being needy (at least, to Hawke) is one of Anders' traits. Friend, lover or rival, he's aways that way. It's not a problem with the system, it's a problem that the player have with a trait of the character. In my opinion.

Garrus is not the type of person that would "whiper sweet nothing" in one's ear - it's not part of his personality, unlike Anders'.

I feel that DA II handled ninjamances very well, with the icons and such. If they used a similar system in ME3 I'd be happy.

Modifié par Dhiro, 29 août 2011 - 04:26 .

[Swords and Lasers]

Of course he wouldn't. Garrus was just a throw-in s/s name. I still believe that Anders' needy-ness could have been handled differently (problem with the system IMO). I would prefer that no romances (s/s or straight) even be implied until the player lets that character know their interest in them. No need for LI characters to show interest in Shep unless the player has flirted with them first.

[Dhiro]

I don't like this concept. I actually think that Isabela wasn't flirty enough. The same way Jack's tattoos say something about her, a character making the first move say something about him or her. If the player don't want to pursue a relationship, he should simply say "no".

It is just my opinion though, there's really no need to go spreading it around.

Modifié par Dhiro, 29 août 2011 - 04:50 .

[ElitePinecone]

For the sake of pragmatism I have to support player initiated romances rather than being approached by LIs. It was somewhat annoying in ME/ME2, but I don't think people would react very well if a s/s LI were doing the flirting in' ME3. The ridiculous overreaction to Anders would be ren times worse with the audience of Mass Effect.

A slightly unrealistic romance system is far better than potentially making some of your audience angry. Pragmatism has to win over artistic reality.

[AmyMac]

ElitePinecone wrote...

For the sake of pragmatism I have to support player initiated romances rather than being approached by LIs.

I support this, for all romances. It was annoying playing FemShep and trying to just have a conversation with Kaidan and having to pick the renegade options ALL THE TIME to avoid getting all flirty (and even then, sometimes the renegade choice was flirty).
Not sure if it's the same with ManShep and Ash, but jeez, Bioware, not all women are like "zomg cute boooooyyyys:wub:"

[Quething]

Dhiro wrote...

I don't like this concept. I actually think that Isabela wasn't flirty enough. The same way Jack's tattoos say something about her, a character making the first move say something about him or her. If the player don't want to pursue a relationship, he should simply say "no".

Haha, it is ridiculous how hard it is to sleep with Isabela. Why, of the four love interests, she's the easiest one to fail at getting into bed, is a perpetual source of bafflement and amusement to me.

I don't know. Generally I agree with you; if it's in character, that's how the character should act (even if it does mean I avoid the medlab like they're breeding plague in there). Though this is definitely a place where the system could benefit from other checks (P/R, or the friend/rival system) to make sure that it actually is, in fact, in character for a given character to hit on you (I will never understand why Carth was so fascinated by my Sith!Revan). I tend to think that anyone in the audience who whines about it is just whining for the sake of it, and will just resort to the Suicide Mission/Zevran Murderknife solution BioWare always helpfully provides rather than actually not buying the next game.

I'm not sure how much I want to encourage that behavior in the fanbase, either, though.

[ElitePinecone]

AmyMac wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

For the sake of pragmatism I have to support player initiated romances rather than being approached by LIs.

I support this, for all romances. It was annoying playing FemShep and trying to just have a conversation with Kaidan and having to pick the renegade options ALL THE TIME to avoid getting all flirty (and even then, sometimes the renegade choice was flirty).
Not sure if it's the same with ManShep and Ash, but jeez, Bioware, not all women are like "zomg cute boooooyyyys:wub:"

Yeah, I meant this for all romances, too. 

It's often quite difficult to exit a romance once it's begun, at least in Mass Effect. ME2 was slightly better in that most of them (as far as I know) have a reasonably clear 'romance line' that Shepard needs to say. In ME the romance dialogue was often just 'being nice/friendly' dialogue - far too ambiguous. 

It's a tough balance between writing characters that naturally would be promiscuous and flirtatious just as part of their personality (say, someone like Jack or Anders, or Gianna Parasini) and then dealing with complaints once people get hit on by characters they didn't want to be hit on by. 

I was pretty bemused at the unwanted attention by Parasini and Shiala for manShep in ME2 - especially when there's little opportunity to decline the advance, and the 'kiss' dialogue is disguised as 'It was good seeing you'. I loved Gianna as a character - she was really well written and someone my Shep would get along with as a friend - but that line was somehow taken as an opportunity for a kiss. 

[ScotGaymer]

Swords and Lasers wrote...


Myself as well. One of the things about I disliked about DA2 was how forceful Anders was. Give the player the option to intiate flirting first. I don't need my wife asking "wtf are you playing?:blink:" when Garrus starts wispering sweet nothings in Male Shep's ear.

See this annoys me.

Its a bit off topic but the whole "Anders wants to have sex with my ManHawke" thing is stupid and wrong. He only gets a bit of a crush on ManHawke if you pursue nothing but nice and flirty options with him at every opportunity and then he flirts a little bit.
Thats perfectly realistic.
What isnt realistic is the lack of choice in Hawke's response to his flirting. You either take him to bed or act like a total douchebag about it. Though granted I reckon that this bit might well be a bug.

And this whole thing is totally NOT on the same level of bad as the Ninjamances of Mass Effect 2; my ManShep (bisexual) had a thing with Liara and suddenly every female on Normandy 2 wanted into his pants and im like "I havent even spoken to them outside of missions!"
Or worse the thing with Leliana in DAO where if you didnt romance her she would suddenly start acting like you did and that you broke her heart by cheating on her with Zevran; and im like "hen, my warden is a poof he aint interested in you."

Honestly. When people bring up Anders as an arguement against SS or against Ninjamances it just irritates me because his SS romance is realistic and he acts within his established character (pushy) and it is by no means a Ninjamance because it only happens if you flirt/and are super nice every time u talk to him.
There are better more accurate examples of ninjamancing (*cough*Tali*cough*).

[Dhiro]

Jack, too. I aways have to think a lot when making a choice involving what my Sheps think of her. I usually go for neutral responses, better than risking ruining my gay save file with a ninjamance.

[ElitePinecone]

Dhiro wrote...

Jack, too. I aways have to think a lot when making a choice involving what my Sheps think of her. I usually go for neutral responses, better than risking ruining my gay save file with a ninjamance.

I've made that mistake more than once. It's very, very annoying. 

At one point Jack asks about whether Shepard is lookng for sex, and the dialogue wheel Paragon response is "No, I want to get to know you".

Seems nice and friendly, innocent, innocuous...

Except Shepard replies with "I'm in no hurry. I want to know what makes you tick, frst." Whaaaat?!

Stupid ninjamances!

[Sundance31us]

ElitePinecone wrote...
I've made that mistake more than once. It's very, very annoying. 

At one point Jack asks about whether Shepard is lookng for sex, and the dialogue wheel Paragon response is "No, I want to get to know you".

Seems nice and friendly, innocent, innocuous...

Except Shepard replies with "I'm in no hurry. I want to know what makes you tick, frst." Whaaaat?!

Stupid ninjamances!

They should have labeled it “Verbal foreplay first”.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Dhiro wrote...

Jack, too. I aways have to think a lot when making a choice involving what my Sheps think of her. I usually go for neutral responses, better than risking ruining my gay save file with a ninjamance.

I'd always say nice things to Jack so she naturally started to hit on me. I'm going into my gay playthrough in ME3 with three half-romanced women, just because I think it's hilarious.  Not that I think that the game will acknowledge them.