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[vvDRUCILLAvv]

Ravensword wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

If formerly straight characters end up gay in ME3 I will be so pissed!

Will being so pissed prevent you from purchasing ME3?

What do you think!

[ElitePinecone]

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?

Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual. 

Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.  

Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.  

But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.  

That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible. 

[Ravensword]

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

If formerly straight characters end up gay in ME3 I will be so pissed!

Will being so pissed prevent you from purchasing ME3?

What do you think!

I hope you reconsider. Why let small aspects of the game such as the romances ruin your gaming experience? If you've been playing since ME1 then it would be a shame not to complete the trilogy over some insignificant thing as an NPCs sexual orientation. I'm sure BW will make it so you won't have to worry about a squadmate, that's the same sex as your Shepard, from hitting on him/her.

Modifié par Ravensword, 20 septembre 2011 - 11:50 .

[ladyofpayne]

The scen guys siad "He looks like football man". I am sure he is BI.

[lazuli]

ElitePinecone wrote...
Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous.

Or closeted.

[Jpersons]

okay, im kinda lost in this topic..
are people argueing about how diffrent each others mass effect story is???

[Siansonea]

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

If formerly straight characters end up gay in ME3 I will be so pissed!

Will being so pissed prevent you from purchasing ME3?

What do you think!

So sorry you are unhappy about this, but this really isn't the place to discuss your dissatisfaction with BioWare's decision to include s/s content. This is FOR The Love. Please read the original post if you have any questions about what is or isn't on-topic in this thread. Thank you for your cooperation.

[wolf99000]

ElitePinecone wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?

Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual. 

Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.  

Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.  

But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.  

That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible. 

plus even people who are straight can fall for someone of the same sex I have seen it my life with friends who were such good friends got so close that they fell for each other one of them  would not consider herselve to be bi and might not date any other woman but she loves my friend as they have been through so much

[Espurr]

wolf99000 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?

Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual. 

Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.  

Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.  

But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.  

That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible. 

plus even people who are straight can fall for someone of the same sex I have seen it my life with friends who were such good friends got so close that they fell for each other one of them  would not consider herselve to be bi and might not date any other woman but she loves my friend as they have been through so much

^this.

My girlfriend of 2 1/2 years was exclusively heterosexual before we got together, and has said she wouldn't date a girl other than me. We are quite happy. It does happen.

[ladyvader]

ToastPants wrote...

wolf99000 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?

Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual. 

Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.  

Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.  

But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.  

That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible. 

plus even people who are straight can fall for someone of the same sex I have seen it my life with friends who were such good friends got so close that they fell for each other one of them  would not consider herselve to be bi and might not date any other woman but she loves my friend as they have been through so much

^this.

My girlfriend of 2 1/2 years was exclusively heterosexual before we got together, and has said she wouldn't date a girl other than me. We are quite happy. It does happen.

Glad your both happy.  Congrats.

[wolf99000]

ToastPants wrote...

wolf99000 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?

Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual. 

Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.  

Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.  

But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.  

That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible. 

plus even people who are straight can fall for someone of the same sex I have seen it my life with friends who were such good friends got so close that they fell for each other one of them  would not consider herselve to be bi and might not date any other woman but she loves my friend as they have been through so much

^this.

My girlfriend of 2 1/2 years was exclusively heterosexual before we got together, and has said she wouldn't date a girl other than me. We are quite happy. It does happen.

just want to second the Congrats.

[Chun Hei]

Allowing each player to have their own relationship with the squad is bad and ruins immersion. It makes me so mad that my lovable, funny and chivalrous Garrus is a mean cold-blood killer in my BF's game.

Seriously I do not understand why some players insist that their enjoyment of the game depends on every other player being forced to play the game the same way they do.

My female Shepard is perfectly happy having snuggle-bunnies with Kaidan even though it seems so many players decided to let him die on Virmire in their game. I have a male Shepard waiting to his own Kaidan snuggle-bunnies in ME3.

And Garrus is going to drop the B in his bromance with male Shepard.

[Espurr]

Thank you for the congrats!

That's one of the reasons I am so bothered when people insist that having a character "change" their sexuality (used the quotes since I am of the opinion that we can't state any character's sexual orientation in stone at this point) is unrealistic. Sometimes a person's personality and your shared experiences supercede gender.

[Xilizhra]

I, er, fourth the congratulations!

[jlb524]

Chun Hei wrote...
Allowing each player to have their own relationship with the squad is bad and ruins immersion. It makes me so mad that my lovable, funny and chivalrous Garrus is a mean cold-blood killer in my BF's game.

Seriously I do not understand why some players insist that their enjoyment of the game depends on every other player being forced to play the game the same way they do.

Most who are against the notion of former LIs being an s/s option in ME3 like to confuse the 'in game universe' with the meta one when discussing the topic; meta being all the possible things Shepard and co. can do or be.

They can't point to any in universe justification for LI X being straight and argue instead on a meta-level...which is pointless.  It's like arguing that since Ashley is alive and dead on a meta-game level that she should be a zombie in ME3 no matter what.

Most that I see arguing seem okay with variations involving life or death across different ME playthroughs but when it comes to possible s/s romances HELL NAW!

Modifié par jlb524, 20 septembre 2011 - 08:54 .

[FoxHound109]

jlb524 wrote...

It's like arguing that since Ashley is alive and dead on a meta-game level that she should be a zombie in ME3 no matter what.

I laughed so hard. Thank for you that (and the dose of common sense). <3

[jtav]

I do have some concerns, particularly for the VS.It would take a great deal of effort to convince me they were hiding attraction to Shep. I also worry that opening them to new people at all will encourage their continued merger into Kaishley.

[The Uncanny]

jtav wrote...

It would take a great deal of effort to convince me they were hiding attraction to Shep.

I don't know... in my experience people tend to hide their feelings pretty well. Particularly when they're not sure if they would be reciprocated.

[FoxHound109]

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

It would take a great deal of effort to convince me they were hiding attraction to Shep.

I don't know... in my experience people tend to hide their feelings pretty well. Particularly when they're not sure if they would be reciprocated.

You could also argue that the traumatic death of Shepard in ME 2 was what made them realize how they really felt about him/her.

[The Uncanny]

FoxHound109 wrote...

You could also argue that the traumatic death of Shepard in ME 2 was what made them realize how they really felt about him/her.

Good point. Sometimes you don't even realise how you yourself feel until an extreme event forces you to face those feelings.

[Espurr]

FoxHound109 wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

It would take a great deal of effort to convince me they were hiding attraction to Shep.

I don't know... in my experience people tend to hide their feelings pretty well. Particularly when they're not sure if they would be reciprocated.

You could also argue that the traumatic death of Shepard in ME 2 was what made them realize how they really felt about him/her.

Yeah. Romantic feelings don't always develop immediately upon knowing someone. Sometimes they do, but I've also known couples who have been friends for years before dating and even couples who outright disliked eachother when they first met.

And sometimes it takes loosing something to realize how much it means to you. < /cliche >

[Nightodie]

ToastPants wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

It would take a great deal of effort to convince me they were hiding attraction to Shep.

I don't know... in my experience people tend to hide their feelings pretty well. Particularly when they're not sure if they would be reciprocated.

You could also argue that the traumatic death of Shepard in ME 2 was what made them realize how they really felt about him/her.

Yeah. Romantic feelings don't always develop immediately upon knowing someone. Sometimes they do, but I've also known couples who have been friends for years before dating and even couples who outright disliked eachother when they first met.

And sometimes it takes loosing something to realize how much it means to you. < /cliche >

This is so true!!! 

[wolf99000]

ToastPants wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

It would take a great deal of effort to convince me they were hiding attraction to Shep.

I don't know... in my experience people tend to hide their feelings pretty well. Particularly when they're not sure if they would be reciprocated.

You could also argue that the traumatic death of Shepard in ME 2 was what made them realize how they really felt about him/her.

Yeah. Romantic feelings don't always develop immediately upon knowing someone. Sometimes they do, but I've also known couples who have been friends for years before dating and even couples who outright disliked eachother when they first met.

And sometimes it takes loosing something to realize how much it means to you. < /cliche >

most of my relationship have started as friends first and they are the most meaningful relationships I have had plus with all shepard and the crew have seen and done and how loyal the crew is to you them developing feelings makes sense

Modifié par wolf99000, 20 septembre 2011 - 11:03 .

[Valdrane78]

ToastPants wrote...

Thank you for the congrats!

That's one of the reasons I am so bothered when people insist that having a character "change" their sexuality (used the quotes since I am of the opinion that we can't state any character's sexual orientation in stone at this point) is unrealistic. Sometimes a person's personality and your shared experiences supercede gender.

It is also unrealistic to assume that it does.  I have been in plenty of life or death situations with members of the same sex, it doesn't mean that we suddenly have romantic feelings for each other.  I do agree that no ones sexuality is set in stone for the moment, but there are conversations where people talk about sex or romances with the opposite sex, so therefore it is relatively safe to assume (I know ironic right) that they are straight.  While some charcters may turn out to be bi (we just didn't know it at the time)  most probably will not turn out that way, both of  which are fine by me.  I am all for S/S romances, I just don't want them to go out of their way to make a character bi just to appease the vocal minority.

[Cootie]

Alright, alright, you are correct. Love at first sight isn't really realistic.

It's actually scientifically proven that Love happens when Sheploo beams one of his romantic, lusty smiles at you.
I dare you to try and resist it.