Cootie wrote...
Alright, alright, you are correct. Love at first sight isn't really realistic.
It's actually scientifically proven that Love happens when Sheploo beams one of his romantic, lusty smiles at you.
I dare you to try and resist it.
Cootie wrote...
Valdrane78... you are a vile, heartless being.
A single smile from Sheploo would break the ice of any awkward situation while meeting your parents.
It would keep you warm in the winter, and keep you dry in the rain.
It would make all of your friends jealous.
It would keep you out of jail for destroying a whole planet.
But mainly it's just nice to look at.
ToastPants wrote...
wolf99000 wrote...
ElitePinecone wrote...
vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...
Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?
Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual.
Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.
Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.
But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.
That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible.
plus even people who are straight can fall for someone of the same sex I have seen it my life with friends who were such good friends got so close that they fell for each other one of them would not consider herselve to be bi and might not date any other woman but she loves my friend as they have been through so much
^this.
My girlfriend of 2 1/2 years was exclusively heterosexual before we got together, and has said she wouldn't date a girl other than me. We are quite happy. It does happen.
Ravensword wrote...
ToastPants wrote...
wolf99000 wrote...
ElitePinecone wrote...
vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...
Lucky for me there aren't any straight characters? What makes you think that they are all bi or gay?
Up until the point where a character says "Hey, I'm straight!" they're ambiguous. Characters who romance one gender can - by definition - be bisexual.
Unless you have inside knowledge of their entire life beyond the events of both games, can read their mind or are silly enough to believe that external behaviour is a barometer of sexuality, you can't pinpoint anyone's sexuality until they say so.
Is it likely that most if not all of the crew we've met so far are 'straight'? Probably.
But it's well within the power of Bioware's writing team to craft a credible same-gender romance with a character in ME3 who was previously only available to the other gender. They aren't changing something that never existed; it's not a redefinition of sexuality when there was none defined to begin with.
That doesn't mean they necessarily should - that's for them to decide - but it's definitely possible.
plus even people who are straight can fall for someone of the same sex I have seen it my life with friends who were such good friends got so close that they fell for each other one of them would not consider herselve to be bi and might not date any other woman but she loves my friend as they have been through so much
^this.
My girlfriend of 2 1/2 years was exclusively heterosexual before we got together, and has said she wouldn't date a girl other than me. We are quite happy. It does happen.
I am not really inclined to agree with this. People who exclusively pursue heterosexual relationships doesn't mean that they are all 100% heterosexual. Some of them could simple be in the closet or are bisexuals, and even fewer would consider themselves as pansexuals, who simply prefer to pursue romances with the opposite sex.
As for your gf refusing to date other women, I'm going to assume that your relationship isn't an open one and so it stands to reason that she wouldn't be dating other people regardless of sex or gender.
I am willing to say that you're girlfriend is neither heterosexual or bisexual, but pansexual. That would be people who looks beyond the primary and secondary sexual characteristics and see the person not the sex.
That's how I see it.
Valdrane78 wrote...
ToastPants wrote...
Thank you for the congrats!
That's
one of the reasons I am so bothered when people insist that having a
character "change" their sexuality (used the quotes since I am of the
opinion that we can't state any character's sexual orientation in stone
at this point) is unrealistic. Sometimes a person's personality and your
shared experiences supercede gender.
It is also
unrealistic to assume that it does. I have been in plenty of life or
death situations with members of the same sex, it doesn't mean that we
suddenly have romantic feelings for each other. I do agree that no ones
sexuality is set in stone for the moment, but there are conversations
where people talk about sex or romances with the opposite sex, so
therefore it is relatively safe to assume (I know ironic right) that
they are straight. While some charcters may turn out to be bi (we just
didn't know it at the time) most probably will not turn out that way,
both of which are fine by me. I am all for S/S romances, I just don't
want them to go out of their way to make a character bi just to appease
the vocal minority.
Valdrane78 wrote...
ToastPants wrote...
Thank you for the congrats!
That's one of the reasons I am so bothered when people insist that having a character "change" their sexuality (used the quotes since I am of the opinion that we can't state any character's sexual orientation in stone at this point) is unrealistic. Sometimes a person's personality and your shared experiences supercede gender.
It is also unrealistic to assume that it does. I have been in plenty of life or death situations with members of the same sex, it doesn't mean that we suddenly have romantic feelings for each other. I do agree that no ones sexuality is set in stone for the moment, but there are conversations where people talk about sex or romances with the opposite sex, so therefore it is relatively safe to assume (I know ironic right) that they are straight. While some charcters may turn out to be bi (we just didn't know it at the time) most probably will not turn out that way, both of which are fine by me. I am all for S/S romances, I just don't want them to go out of their way to make a character bi just to appease the vocal minority.
ToastPants wrote...
Actually she has said that even if we broke up, she would not be inclined to date another girl. HOWEVER, I wasn't trying to argue that she couldn't be called bisexual or what have you (labels are silly anyhow), more trying to make the point that it isn't particularly unrealistic that someone who had never expressed interest in the opposite sex to do so.
This thread doesn't exist for people to express that they are against the inclusion of same-sex romance either. It's been confirmed by BioWare, and if you want to petition them to take it out, do it somewhere else.
ElitePinecone wrote...
Weird thing I've noticed: mods keep shutting down s/s-discussion-threads-that-aren't-this-one, and tell the arguers to come here....
They almost never do, though. Do people just bottle up their penchant to call each other idiots until a new thread breaks out every couple of days, then unleash the same arguments again?
I agree with you because I have lived it, I denied being gay for a long time and therefore could talk about ex girlfriends and pretend to enjoy hitting on girls. I have many friends that are bisexual, in fact it seems more common then gay or lesbian, but maybe that's just where I live. It happens in real life, and it can certainly happen in gaming if Bioware chooses to take that route. I'm very happy that Bioware has chosen to include minorities at all as this game is primarily a shooter and will therefore draw the shooter crowd.wolf99000 wrote...
Valdrane78 wrote...
ToastPants wrote...
Thank you for the congrats!
That's one of the reasons I am so bothered when people insist that having a character "change" their sexuality (used the quotes since I am of the opinion that we can't state any character's sexual orientation in stone at this point) is unrealistic. Sometimes a person's personality and your shared experiences supercede gender.
It is also unrealistic to assume that it does. I have been in plenty of life or death situations with members of the same sex, it doesn't mean that we suddenly have romantic feelings for each other. I do agree that no ones sexuality is set in stone for the moment, but there are conversations where people talk about sex or romances with the opposite sex, so therefore it is relatively safe to assume (I know ironic right) that they are straight. While some charcters may turn out to be bi (we just didn't know it at the time) most probably will not turn out that way, both of which are fine by me. I am all for S/S romances, I just don't want them to go out of their way to make a character bi just to appease the vocal minority.
well first this is not about appeaseing a vocal minority infact I think more people want ss romances than dont also when you say
it is relatively safe to assume (I know ironic right) that they are straight
like I said in my other post people who are straight can fall for the other sex if just takes the right situation I have friends who have done that and its wrong to put everyone in a box not everyone knows there sexuality from day 1
as I said the vocal minority is on the side of not having them in the game
not being sexist but maybe its me being a girl as we do seem more open minded about this than some men
Modifié par AxelBat, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:09 .
ElitePinecone wrote...
Weird thing I've noticed: mods keep shutting down s/s-discussion-threads-that-aren't-this-one, and tell the arguers to come here....
They almost never do, though. Do people just bottle up their penchant to call each other idiots until a new thread breaks out every couple of days, then unleash the same arguments again?
*cloaking*
Modifié par Alarieliia, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:26 .
Alarieliia wrote...
I may be straight as an arrow......but that being said.....I'd totally roll a Sheploo for Kaidan or Vega.
ElitePinecone wrote...
Weird thing I've noticed: mods keep shutting down s/s-discussion-threads-that-aren't-this-one, and tell the arguers to come here....
They almost never do, though. Do people just bottle up their penchant to call each other idiots until a new thread breaks out every couple of days, then unleash the same arguments again?
Modifié par Abispa, 21 septembre 2011 - 08:16 .
Keller42 wrote...
I am straight and male.
And I wholeheartedly support the inclusion of gay and bisexual romance options in ME3!
Abispa wrote...
ElitePinecone wrote...
Weird thing I've noticed: mods keep shutting down s/s-discussion-threads-that-aren't-this-one, and tell the arguers to come here....
They almost never do, though. Do people just bottle up their penchant to call each other idiots until a new thread breaks out every couple of days, then unleash the same arguments again?
Part of the "problem" (if you can call it that) for the s/s critics is that they aren't allowed to vent on this thread and even the supporters have been warned about the rules of engagement. I know that quite a few of the critics "lurk" in the background until we bring up a subject they can argue about within the rules.
And I've said it before, but I'm not happy that Bioware keeps shutting down all the s/s critical threads and THEN directes the argumentative s/s critics to come to this one, where they aren't allowed to argue about it.
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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 23 septembre 2011 - 09:27 .
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