♂♂ • ♀♀ For The Love — The Same-Sex Romance Discussion Thread **may contain spoilers**
#10976
Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:44
I mean, he's the only real issue, it's a proven fact Shepard can talk Garrus into anything (I love you Garrus but bro, you should at least have been mad I made you spare Sidonis for more than the thirty seconds immediately afterward).
#10977
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 01:52
When these sorts of ridiculous stories are floating around, I'm not surprised Bioware want to minimise anything that could cause moralists to foam at the mouth: http://t.co/ytKyDgdr
It doesn't mean threesomes would be a bad thing, I just don't think they're very likely. At all.
Modifié par ElitePinecone, 09 octobre 2011 - 02:01 .
#10978
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 04:47
I suppose we could speculate more on new character f/f LIs. That's an actual plausible thing that might happen that we haven't exhausted the topic of yet. The "Vigilante" thing seems to have been dismissed as a casting call for a stunt actor for a promo, or... something, I don't recall exactly. I sort of think (and kind of hope) that Vega will be the only new squadmate - there are just too many characters to begin to juggle already, even if most of them are only around on a per-mission basis, Liara-in-LotSB style - but on the other hand, it'd be odd if they didn't guarantee you at least four to six constant allies regardless of how many people you get killed in the Suicide Mission, which still leaves us with at least one new squaddie.
I would be very, very down for a bisexual turian vanguard (female turians! Biotic turians! non-asari alien f/f romance! It hits so many birds with a single stone!). I don't have a Shep who would romance one (all my xenophiles are spoken for) but I would totally make one. Odds seem good we'd get another human if anything, though.
(Just as long as it's not an asari. My dentist complains when I spit nails too often.)
#10979
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:18
#10980
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:25
The only other old squadmate that I like would be Miranda. I would make a second Shepard for her. If she's not available, I will stick with my one Shepard with Liara.
To elaborate...Miranda is attractive to me b/c she is so competent and intelligent but at the same time, we don't really know 'her' on a personal level. She's adept in dealing with people on a professional level but isn't really on a personal level...she's very much a mystery there...a closed book. I think she's even socially awkward on that level...and I find that interesting and by extension, attractive. I find her attractive b/c I don't really know her and I don't think she does either. I can relate to that. The 'self discovery' line is one I'm interested in.
Modifié par jlb524, 09 octobre 2011 - 06:35 .
#10981
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:36
#10982
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:38
Please?
#10983
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:42
ElitePinecone wrote...
There's definitely going to be at least one more new female character, at least according to Patrick Weekes.
Oh, really? Huh, well I do hope it's a race other than human or asari. Even a quarian would be better.
She'll probably be a human though.
#10984
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 07:01
DaeJi wrote...
ElitePinecone wrote...
There's definitely going to be at least one more new female character, at least according to Patrick Weekes.
Oh, really? Huh, well I do hope it's a race other than human or asari. Even a quarian would be better.
She'll probably be a human though.
He didn't mention the species, just that they were working on a character he thinks we'd like (he mentioned he was browsing this forum and couldn't find one for [Character X], then he realised they haven't announced her yet).
And yeah, I think there'd have to be some more new characters to balance out the squad, especially if squadmates are so fluid.
#10985
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 07:16
I base this on the assumption that Bioware isn't going to make all the LIs "bi," of course.
And I agree with ElitePinecone that ME won't, and probably shouldn't, start throwing space brothels and threesomes into the mix. I'm a fan of the LIs myself, but even I have to admit that I already have trouble suspending disbelief when it comes to the incredible sexual charisma of Shepard.
#10986
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 07:23
Sketchy77 wrote...
I want a blonde. A lesbian blonde.
Please?
Supposedly blondes are a vanishing segment of the human population in the ME universe. No, I'm not joking. I suppose that would make sense since the blonde gene isn't dominant and multi-ethnic breeding could be even more common with the advent of future technology and the limited number of available mates to choose from in the colonies.
In truth, however, I suspect the decision may also be due to the fact that the blonde hair selection in ME leaves a lot to be desired IMHO.
#10987
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 08:18
Wasn't Miranda meant to be blonde before her voice actress was cast? They also changed her surname from Solheim to Lawson, to reflect her nationality (though for the life of me I can't work out why they chose the surname of a bush poet).
#10988
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 10:02
A gene being recessive only means that it has to be present in both chromosomes for it to be expressed in the offspring, whereas a dominant gene can express if it is present in only one. But a recessive gene doesn't vanish if it doesn't express. There are many brunettes out there who carry the gene that expresses blondeness and their offspring will too even if they are also brunettes.
Blondes are in no danger of 'dying out'.
I didn't mean for that to be a pun.
Modifié par Athayniel, 09 octobre 2011 - 10:02 .
#10989
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 01:55
#10990
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 04:37
Athayniel wrote...
*Le Sigh*, genes don't work that way. I know they wrote that into one of the books but they could have done some basic fact checking, especially with something so meaningful about a character, Kahlee Sanders is blonde right? It's supposed to be one of her distinguishing features.
A gene being recessive only means that it has to be present in both chromosomes for it to be expressed in the offspring, whereas a dominant gene can express if it is present in only one. But a recessive gene doesn't vanish if it doesn't express. There are many brunettes out there who carry the gene that expresses blondeness and their offspring will too even if they are also brunettes.
Blondes are in no danger of 'dying out'.
I didn't mean for that to be a pun.
I'm was not trying to teach "real" genetics but relaying the lore of the game.
#10991
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 04:42
#10992
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:40
Well the science of Mass Effect is horribly off on protein/amino acid chirality and the immune system response as well so it really is no surprise. They are writers not scientists.Athayniel wrote...
I know, I just wish it wasn't the lore of the game. My inner scientist finds it physically painful.
#10993
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 06:45
I'm a writer and I always do my research first! They have the assets of a corporation behind them; it can't be that hard.silentassassin264 wrote...
Well the science of Mass Effect is horribly off on protein/amino acid chirality and the immune system response as well so it really is no surprise. They are writers not scientists.
Modifié par koopaonfire, 09 octobre 2011 - 06:46 .
#10994
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 07:24
Hmmm, back on topic, though... uh... um... just how many gay genetic scientists do you think there are in the ME universe and how eagerly do we want them to be LIs for Shepard?
Modifié par Abispa, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:26 .
#10995
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 07:30
ElitePinecone wrote...
^ I did hear they're doing better things in the hair department (to the extent of giving Shepard more hair choices), so that might not be such an issue.
Wasn't Miranda meant to be blonde before her voice actress was cast? They also changed her surname from Solheim to Lawson, to reflect her nationality (though for the life of me I can't work out why they chose the surname of a bush poet).
The VA is a sorta famous blonde herself being the eye candy for the "Chuck" series, I believe. Sorry, I've never seen it outside of the video clips her fans keep posting around these threads and I apologize for forgetting her name. I understand that she WAS modeled as a blonde but was changed to a brunette because of the visual of her in her B&W Cerberus outfit.
#10996
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 10:28
Y'know. for support and all......

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*Raises hood, lurks in shadows*
Modifié par Subject Alpha, 09 octobre 2011 - 10:29 .
#10997
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 10:43
koopaonfire wrote...
silentassassin264 wrote...
Well the science of Mass Effect is horribly off on protein/amino acid chirality and the immune system response as well so it really is no surprise. They are writers not scientists.
I'm a writer and I always do my research first! They have the assets of a corporation behind them; it can't be that hard.
So am I.
But I actually recognise that it isnt possible to be 100% correct on all of the issues that might come up in the game that contradicts real life information.
I mean the nature of recessive genes and the supposed "vanishing" of the blonde gene is a fairly obscure thing to want to research. Especially when "common knowledge" holds that the blonde gene is rapidly becoming "extinct" - wether that is right or wrong it is the general perception these days.
I remember reading a newspaper article in a tabloid some years ago about that very "problem", and about "gingers" also suffering from the same problem.
I mean honestly when the ME team cant even get basic scientific truths right what chance have you got for the more obscure ones?
It is well known that Skin is Porous and thus exposing it to vacumn or toxic atmosphere's would result in death; and yet somehow Miranda, Jack, Samara, and Thane can cut about with their boobs out in all sorts of atmospheres and in one case the lack of an atmosphere completely.
For myself I reckon that as long as you hit the "big ones" correctly; you can suspend your disbelief on the smaller ones.
#10998
Posté 10 octobre 2011 - 08:53
Subject Alpha wrote...
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Dawww.
Is that Shepard and Hawke, or Shepard and Joker?
Or Vega and some random person?
#10999
Posté 10 octobre 2011 - 09:57
It's not that obscure when Wikipedia links to a page for it on the page for Blonde hair and even Snopes has a page on it being an urban myth.FitScotGaymer wrote...
koopaonfire wrote...
silentassassin264 wrote...
Well the science of Mass Effect is horribly off on protein/amino acid chirality and the immune system response as well so it really is no surprise. They are writers not scientists.
I'm a writer and I always do my research first! They have the assets of a corporation behind them; it can't be that hard.
So am I.
But I actually recognise that it isnt possible to be 100% correct on all of the issues that might come up in the game that contradicts real life information.
I mean the nature of recessive genes and the supposed "vanishing" of the blonde gene is a fairly obscure thing to want to research. Especially when "common knowledge" holds that the blonde gene is rapidly becoming "extinct" - wether that is right or wrong it is the general perception these days.
I remember reading a newspaper article in a tabloid some years ago about that very "problem", and about "gingers" also suffering from the same problem.
All the folks you mentioned have biotic abilities. It's not so hard to imagine they can keep a low level mass effect field around themselves that protect them from vacuum and toxic environments. If Kasumi or Zaeed had breather masks then I'd agree with you but to be honest I've never taken them on a mission where I'd find out one way or the other. Someone else will have to confirm whether they sport something akin to a full helmet in such cases.I mean honestly when the ME team cant even get basic scientific truths right what chance have you got for the more obscure ones?
It is well known that Skin is Porous and thus exposing it to vacumn or toxic atmosphere's would result in death; and yet somehow Miranda, Jack, Samara, and Thane can cut about with their boobs out in all sorts of atmospheres and in one case the lack of an atmosphere completely.
*edit* also toxic might just mean 'unfit to breathe but not corrosive'. That's how I always saw the Collector Ship mission for example.
Hitting the big ones correctly just makes missing the smaller stuff stand out more.For myself I reckon that as long as you hit the "big ones" correctly; you can suspend your disbelief on the smaller ones.
Modifié par Athayniel, 10 octobre 2011 - 10:02 .
#11000
Posté 10 octobre 2011 - 12:04
Athayniel wrote...
It's not that obscure when Wikipedia links to a page for it on the page for Blonde hair and even Snopes has a page on it being an urban myth.FitScotGaymer wrote...
So am I.
But I actually recognise that it isnt possible to be 100% correct on all of the issues that might come up in the game that contradicts real life information.
I mean the nature of recessive genes and the supposed "vanishing" of the blonde gene is a fairly obscure thing to want to research. Especially when "common knowledge" holds that the blonde gene is rapidly becoming "extinct" - wether that is right or wrong it is the general perception these days.
I remember reading a newspaper article in a tabloid some years ago about that very "problem", and about "gingers" also suffering from the same problem.All the folks you mentioned have biotic abilities. It's not so hard to imagine they can keep a low level mass effect field around themselves that protect them from vacuum and toxic environments. If Kasumi or Zaeed had breather masks then I'd agree with you but to be honest I've never taken them on a mission where I'd find out one way or the other. Someone else will have to confirm whether they sport something akin to a full helmet in such cases.I mean honestly when the ME team cant even get basic scientific truths right what chance have you got for the more obscure ones?
It is well known that Skin is Porous and thus exposing it to vacumn or toxic atmosphere's would result in death; and yet somehow Miranda, Jack, Samara, and Thane can cut about with their boobs out in all sorts of atmospheres and in one case the lack of an atmosphere completely.
*edit* also toxic might just mean 'unfit to breathe but not corrosive'. That's how I always saw the Collector Ship mission for example.Hitting the big ones correctly just makes missing the smaller stuff stand out more.For myself I reckon that as long as you hit the "big ones" correctly; you can suspend your disbelief on the smaller ones.
The whole blonde thing being an urban myth; well I suspect a lot of people wont know it. And I didnt disagree that it wasnt an urban myth, or that it was a case of "did not do the research" here. I was merely pointing out that as far as scientific errors in the ME universe go this one is pretty small.
There are a number of much larger, much more obvious mistakes that they should never have made.
Okay firstly the whole mass effect fields thing doesnt work because Mass Effect Fields in ME Science! are porous also because if they didnt allow the passage of air molecules through the person inside would suffocate fairly quickly.
So nope doesnt work as an arguement.
If you cant suspend your disbelief over the small nitpicky things then the problem is yours not the developers.
If they had gotten all the bigger things right I might have agreed with you that they should have done the research on the details; but as they didnt... it is a lot to hope for that they get the small things right.
Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 10 octobre 2011 - 12:04 .





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