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[KawaiiKatie]

IsaacShep wrote...

She always counted. She didn't count only was when they were questioned why there're no gay male romances in ME franchise. Plus, who in the world looks and FemShep & Liara and considers it anything but a lesbian romance?

Casey Hudson?

I'm wondering if Kelly "counts" as a lesbian romance now, too. You know, as opposed to before, when her romance wasn't really a romance because all she did was dance around and cuddle Shepard half-naked.

And write Shepard a love letter.

And sit on Shepard's lap.

....plantoically, of course.

Sorry, old argument is old. Still, I really do wonder if Kelly will "count" this time around.

[jeweledleah]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

She always counted. She didn't count only was when they were questioned why there're no gay male romances in ME franchise. Plus, who in the world looks and FemShep & Liara and considers it anything but a lesbian romance?

Casey Hudson?

I'm wondering if Kelly "counts" as a lesbian romance now, too. You know, as opposed to before, when her romance wasn't really a romance because all she did was dance around and cuddle Shepard half-naked.

And write Shepard a love letter.

And sit on Shepard's lap.

....plantoically, of course.

Sorry, old argument is old. Still, I really do wonder if Kelly will "count" this time around.

warning - spoiler bellow, highlight and read at your own risk

according to the leak, not only is her romance aknowledged for both Shepards, it also gets a very sweet continuation, with conciderable depth.  to the point where I'm concidering giving Kelly, her very own Shepard.

[Ryzaki]

Chun Hei wrote...

Is it true that Legion is a LI for female Shepard only?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 

[Pheonix57]

Okay, so I romanced Garrus, but if Tali became an option for FemShep... Well, let's just say that everyone's favorite Turian is gonna have to turn up the charm if he wants to keep me ;D

What am I saying? I'll just make another save file! XD

[Ravensword]

Pheonix57 wrote...

Okay, so I romanced Garrus, but if Tali became an option for FemShep... Well, let's just say that everyone's favorite Turian is gonna have to turn up the charm if he wants to keep me ;D

What am I saying? I'll just make another save file! XD

I wish Tali would become and option for FemShep.

[Quething]

Ravensword wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

Okay, so I romanced Garrus, but if Tali became an option for FemShep... Well, let's just say that everyone's favorite Turian is gonna have to turn up the charm if he wants to keep me ;D

What am I saying? I'll just make another save file! XD

I wish Tali would become and option for FemShep.

See, and here your icon just reminds me how much I want Kasumi.

[Abispa]

Kasumi is only available in a three-some with Jacob. Male or female Shepard. It's in the script. Really. I swear. Sorry about the spoilers, people.

[Ravensword]

Quething wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

Okay, so I romanced Garrus, but if Tali became an option for FemShep... Well, let's just say that everyone's favorite Turian is gonna have to turn up the charm if he wants to keep me ;D

What am I saying? I'll just make another save file! XD

I wish Tali would become and option for FemShep.

See, and here your icon just reminds me how much I want Kasumi.

That's why God invented threesomes.

[wolf99000]

Garden of Heaven wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

So, is the VS a s/s romance now or not?

While I think it would be great if they were Bisexual, it would also feel strange as in the first Mass Effect they weren't and expressed no interest in the matter, and now in Mass Effect 3 they just suddenly are.

there does not have to be anything said in other games maybe they liked shepard from a far but saw her/him falling for someone else so put there feelings to one side  the horizon even if you are not dating the vs the way they acted could play into it

but deep down not everyone walks around telling everyone they are bi many of my friends dont know I am so it not coming up is not so out there

also I have seen a pic of the the new m/m romance option the shuttle guy but is there any pics of the female version also got this from another forum going by the spoliers right now not sure if its right

New Love Interests or Start a Romance with past Characters.

- Steve Cortez (Exclusive to Male Shepard)
- Samantha Traynor (Exclusive to Female Shepard)
- James Vega (Rumored to be Bi)
- Kelly Chambers (Available for both Genders)
- Ashley Williams (Exclusive to Male Shepard, Unknown if Ashley will be a Romance for Female Shepard)
- Liara (Available for both Genders)
- Diana Allers (A Reporter Stationed on The Normandy SR-2)

Existing Romances (Can not Start a Romance with Following Characters, You can Only continue These Romances).

- Miranda Lawson
- Tali
- Jack
- Garrus
- Thane
- Jacob

Modifié par wolf99000, 18 novembre 2011 - 07:19 .

[AgentMrOrange]

From what I understand the VS was supposed to be LI for shep regardless of gender in ME1, however they change that at some point in the game development making it and o/s LI only. I’m hoping that the VS is a s/s LI in ME3 and going off that shred of hope.
Do you guys think that they might have changed that so they could make a big romantic scene in ME3 where the VS proclaims their love for Shepard
And yes I know my grammar and punctuations is barbarous

[jeweledleah]

AgentMrOrange wrote...

From what I understand the VS was supposed to be LI for shep regardless of gender in ME1, however they change that at some point in the game development making it and o/s LI only. I’m hoping that the VS is a s/s LI in ME3 and going off that shred of hope.
Do you guys think that they might have changed that so they could make a big romantic scene in ME3 where the VS proclaims their love for Shepard
And yes I know my grammar and punctuations is barbarous

they concider making VS s/s LI in ME1 after they recoded Shepards lines - it was easier for them to just record everything then try separating it into "female Shepard only" and "male Shepard only"  which is how we ended up with male Shepard telling Liara that he was a woman and telling Harkin to stop calling him a princess.  once the dialogue was recorded, they concidered expanding relationships, decided that it didn't quite fit and scrapped that idea.  its not yet conclusive whether VS will be s/s in ME3. 

in fact - at first they weren't going to include new romances in ME3 at all, and changed their minds at a later date.  so if VS does become available for new s/s relationship in ME3 - its not some grand star crossed lovers plan that they kept since ME1, but rather its because there was enough of a fan demand for it and they found a satisfactory way to implement it.

[MACharlie1]

jeweledleah wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

From what I understand the VS was supposed to be LI for shep regardless of gender in ME1, however they change that at some point in the game development making it and o/s LI only. I’m hoping that the VS is a s/s LI in ME3 and going off that shred of hope.
Do you guys think that they might have changed that so they could make a big romantic scene in ME3 where the VS proclaims their love for Shepard
And yes I know my grammar and punctuations is barbarous

they concider making VS s/s LI in ME1 after they recoded Shepards lines - it was easier for them to just record everything then try separating it into "female Shepard only" and "male Shepard only"  which is how we ended up with male Shepard telling Liara that he was a woman and telling Harkin to stop calling him a princess.  once the dialogue was recorded, they concidered expanding relationships, decided that it didn't quite fit and scrapped that idea.  its not yet conclusive whether VS will be s/s in ME3. 

in fact - at first they weren't going to include new romances in ME3 at all, and changed their minds at a later date.  so if VS does become available for new s/s relationship in ME3 - its not some grand star crossed lovers plan that they kept since ME1, but rather its because there was enough of a fan demand for it and they found a satisfactory way to implement it.

I think when that was said they meant it in a no NEW romances as in Vega, Cortez and Traynor. 

I doubt they'd only have romances for those who imported or selected a choice in the beginning. 

[jeweledleah]

no, they actually said that there weren't going to be any new romances, period. new OR old characters. just imported existing romances. they changed their minds though

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Chun Hei wrote...

Is it true that Legion is a LI for female Shepard only?

Geth do not discriminate against gender.


Sorry.

[jlb524]

jeweledleah wrote...
no, they actually said that there weren't going to be any new romances, period. new OR old characters. just imported existing romances. they changed their minds though

The comment was too vague to decide either way.

This is what he said about the comment.

[Vapaa]

jeweledleah wrote...

no, they actually said that there weren't going to be any new romances, period. new OR old characters.

But it doesn't makes much sense, since ME3 is also designed to be a good "entry point" so they have to include new romances (with new or old characters) to satisfy the newcomers

Modifié par Vapaä, 19 novembre 2011 - 03:10 .

[Lucrece]

I grow ever more worried about VS s/s. In The collector's edition art book pages they said about Ashley (and likewise Kaidan) that the VS and Liara were meant to be trology-long culminations of a passionate love affair that simmered during ME2. That's why they gave Ashley more sex appeal.

And yet, how will a mshep romance Kaidan in a similar storyline? In my save I had to stay celibate, but it was still Ashley who expressed her concern for my interactions with Liara. It was Ashley who I knocked out of the beacon ray. In ME2 even though I chose Kaidan, he just gives me a friendly handshake.

How will they go back on the save and storyline to make it seem like my mshep ever had an intimate relationship with Kaidan in ME1/2? How will that play out in ME3? Will Kaidan just treat msheps as if he's JUST realized he's fallen for him?

Hmmmm =/

Modifié par Lucrece, 18 novembre 2011 - 10:09 .

[Wittand25]

Lucrece wrote...

I grow ever more worried about VS s/s. In The collector's edition art book pages they said about Ashley (and likewise Kaidan) that the VS and Liara were meant to be trology-long culminations of a passionate love affair that simmered during ME2. That's why they gave Ashley more sex appeal.

And yet, how will a mshep romance Kaidan in a similar storyline? In my save I had to stay celibate, but it was still Ashley who expressed her concern for my interactions with Liara. It was Ashley who I knocked out of the beacon ray. In ME2 even though I chose Kaidan, he just gives me a friendly handshake.

How will they go back on the save and storyline to make it seem like my mshep ever had an intimate relationship with Kaidan in ME1/2? How will that play out in ME3? Will Kaidan just treat msheps as if he's JUST realized he's fallen for him?

Hmmmm =/

I always had feelings for you. After I saw you dying the one thing I regretted most is that I never even tried to express them to you, I will not make the same mistake again now that I have a second chance. ...

It is rather easy to write dialog so that the VS always was interested but never said anything if you did not romance them, they did manage to do it for Tali in ME2 after all. So that is the smallest obstacle to a VS open for a same sex relationship.

[shepskisaac]

Lucrece wrote...

I grow ever more worried about VS s/s. In The collector's edition art book pages they said about Ashley (and likewise Kaidan) that the VS and Liara were meant to be trology-long culminations of a passionate love affair that simmered during ME2.

What was said in the artbook doesn't mean there can't be new romance with them because *spoiler* there IS a new romance scenario for VS, we just don't know if it's for both Sheps or not *spoiler*

Modifié par IsaacShep, 18 novembre 2011 - 11:20 .

[AgentMrOrange]

jeweledleah wrote...

AgentMrOrange wrote...

From what I understand the VS was supposed to be LI for shep regardless of gender in ME1, however they change that at some point in the game development making it and o/s LI only. I’m hoping that the VS is a s/s LI in ME3 and going off that shred of hope.
Do you guys think that they might have changed that so they could make a big romantic scene in ME3 where the VS proclaims their love for Shepard
And yes I know my grammar and punctuations is barbarous

they concider making VS s/s LI in ME1 after they recoded Shepards lines - it was easier for them to just record everything then try separating it into "female Shepard only" and "male Shepard only"  which is how we ended up with male Shepard telling Liara that he was a woman and telling Harkin to stop calling him a princess.  once the dialogue was recorded, they concidered expanding relationships, decided that it didn't quite fit and scrapped that idea.  its not yet conclusive whether VS will be s/s in ME3. 

in fact - at first they weren't going to include new romances in ME3 at all, and changed their minds at a later date.  so if VS does become available for new s/s relationship in ME3 - its not some grand star crossed lovers plan that they kept since ME1, but rather its because there was enough of a fan demand for it and they found a satisfactory way to implement it.

Thank you for the clarification of the information. If they
don’t make the VS a s/s LI in ME3 it seem to me that it will be a miss opportunity
for them

[wolf99000]

Wittand25 wrote...

Lucrece wrote...

I grow ever more worried about VS s/s. In The collector's edition art book pages they said about Ashley (and likewise Kaidan) that the VS and Liara were meant to be trology-long culminations of a passionate love affair that simmered during ME2. That's why they gave Ashley more sex appeal.

And yet, how will a mshep romance Kaidan in a similar storyline? In my save I had to stay celibate, but it was still Ashley who expressed her concern for my interactions with Liara. It was Ashley who I knocked out of the beacon ray. In ME2 even though I chose Kaidan, he just gives me a friendly handshake.

How will they go back on the save and storyline to make it seem like my mshep ever had an intimate relationship with Kaidan in ME1/2? How will that play out in ME3? Will Kaidan just treat msheps as if he's JUST realized he's fallen for him?

Hmmmm =/

I always had feelings for you. After I saw you dying the one thing I regretted most is that I never even tried to express them to you, I will not make the same mistake again now that I have a second chance. ...

It is rather easy to write dialog so that the VS always was interested but never said anything if you did not romance them, they did manage to do it for Tali in ME2 after all. So that is the smallest obstacle to a VS open for a same sex relationship.

plus the whole war and maybe not being alive at the end might want them to say if we are going to die I just want you to know how I feel

[ElitePinecone]

As Isaac said, there's going to be new VS romances anyway - we just don't know whether they're for opposite-sex or same-sex Shepard. Or both?

The lines in the script are quite clear: they had feelings for Shepard and now is the time to say them.

It's entirely possible to reference a trilogy-spanning arc and still have the romance bit come in the third act. Shepard's lines to Ashley, for example, mention noticing her on Eden Prime. There's frequent mentions of their fights on Ilos and Virmire.

[JeffZero]

Man, I love that Kaidan pic but I swear, it gets Isaac and Pinecone mixed up for me all the time. Ah well, at least you're both nifty.

/off-topic

[ElitePinecone]

JeffZero wrote...

Man, I love that Kaidan pic but I swear, it gets Isaac and Pinecone mixed up for me all the time. Ah well, at least you're both nifty.

/off-topic

I've noticed that - I'm going to change mine 

Also, just to add to my other post:

If the VS weren't a romance option in ME3 (of any sort, o/s or s/s), there'd be very few opportunities for new players to romance anybody. They'd have, at the most, a few Normandy crew (two of which look exclusively s/s, and one of which doesn't even start on the ship, in Allers), Kelly, Liara and possibly Vega.

Bioware made a conscious decision to limit the size of the 'permanent' squad, one of the downsides was that this limits the number of available romance options (and it looks like they've compensated by making crew available). 

But for new players, these don't seem enough. Adding the VS as a new option just gives them that extra 'squadmember romance', and it ties in really well with some of the drama (although I'm a bit annoyed with that drama). 

Having the VS decide they felt something for Shepard is a) perfectly plausible and the lesser of two evils when the alternative is having few LIs at all. 

Point is: some long time ago, Bioware decided on the composition of the squad (a mixture of story demands, combat class demands, cost, complexity, writing, etc) and the romances probably come somewhere lower than that in terms of priority. If having a character open as an LI in the third act of a trilogy seems strange, then it was because it had to be that way. 

I don't find the Ashley/Kaidan 'new' romances odd at all, I think they're well written (from what we can work out) and some of the dialogue is actually really nice. 

[jeweledleah]

one thing I disagree with is the idea that having 4 fresh romances is not enough (Sam, Steve, James, Liara). in ME1 you had 1 o/s romance for each gender and then you had Liara. in DA2 you had 4 romansable characters total. in KOTOR it was one per gender. in DAO it was 4 romancable characters again. if the spoilers are correct, assuming that only new romances are available the only thing that's skewed is that instead of a single s/s option with 2 o/s options like in DAO, you get a single o/s option with 2 s/s ones.

ME2 was the only game that offered extra LI's and the arcs suffered for it.

now they may still offer more choices for new players regardless, but bear in mind that only one VS can be alive at any time, so the LI numbers are STILL skewed for new players. unless they decided to go with the default Virmire survivor and make them O/S romance to give people that second o/s choice?

anyways, the point I was trying to make is that 4 romancable characters is not too few choices, its bioware's standard.