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[Ryzaki]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore.

Like Shepard having several soldiers willing to break fratenization to be with Shep? That kind of no longer caring you mean?

And realism doesn't mean squat when 6 out of 7 females are interested in Shep and for some reason NONE of them have a current relationship. Nevermind the fact that all of them are young, successful and attractive.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:21 .

[TMA LIVE]

Xilizhra wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore.

Several of those won't be human.

True.

But what if Jacob, Kaidan, James, and Steve become bi options? They're human.

[Xilizhra]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore.

Several of those won't be human.

True.

But what if Jacob, Kaidan, James, and Steve become bi options? They're human.

Then you have a whole shipful of people who still aren't.

[TMA LIVE]

Ryzaki wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore.

Like Shepard having several soldiers willing to break fratenization to be with Shep? That kind of no longer caring you mean?

Cerberus didn't care about that. There was no rules against it.

In ME1, it was just Ash and Kaidan. Not 5 other people as well.

[TMA LIVE]

Xilizhra wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore.

Several of those won't be human.

True.

But what if Jacob, Kaidan, James, and Steve become bi options? They're human.

Then you have a whole shipful of people who still aren't.

But still 4 men and 4 woman interested in same sex within the same ship. Plus aliens interested in both human sexes.

[Ryzaki]

TMA LIVE wrote...
Cerberus didn't care about that. There was no rules against it.

In ME1, it was just Ash and Kaidan. Not 5 other people as well.

I'm talking about ME3 where there will be soldiers under Shep's command (several of them) willing to hop into bed with Shep.

And I edited my original post.

What about the realism of 6 out of 7 young, successful attractive females being single and all going for the same male? 

@aliens bit: Like it's not weird enough they're interested in humans to begin with.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:25 .

[Xilizhra]

But still 4 men and 4 woman interested in same sex within the same ship. Plus aliens interested in both human sexes.

No stranger than some of the other mixes that show up.

[TMA LIVE]

Xilizhra wrote...

But still 4 men and 4 woman interested in same sex within the same ship. Plus aliens interested in both human sexes.

No stranger than some of the other mixes that show up.

That still don't solve the problem of way too many li's after Shepard's ass, in one ship.

[Ryzaki]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

But still 4 men and 4 woman interested in same sex within the same ship. Plus aliens interested in both human sexes.

No stranger than some of the other mixes that show up.

That still don't solve the problem of way too many li's after Shepard's ass, in one ship.

Which can be solved by making the relationships only initated by the player. They'll only be after Shep if you want them after Shep.

I already have a problem with the ridculous amount of females wanting Shep. If the romances have to be initated by my Shep I can safely ignore most of them vs having them shoved down my throat and annoying me and tempting me to kill characters off.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:28 .

[TMA LIVE]

Ryzaki wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
Cerberus didn't care about that. There was no rules against it.

In ME1, it was just Ash and Kaidan. Not 5 other people as well.

I'm talking about ME3 where there will be soldiers under Shep's command (several of them) willing to hop into bed with Shep.

And I edited my original post.

What about the realism of 6 out of 7 young, successful attractive females being single and all going for the same male? 

Yeah, I have a problem with that. It's more convincing if it's only 3 or 2. Not 8 or 10.

Which is why I think some romances should only happen if you activated them in a past game. If you didn't, no dice.

I honestly think ME3 should only have 4 romances you can activate. 2 for a straight character, and 2 for a non-straight character.

Any other romance depends on a past save game.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:29 .

[Ryzaki]

TMA LIVE wrote...
Yeah, I have a problem with that. It's more convincing if it's only 3 or 2. Not 8 or 10.

Which is why I think some romances should only happen if you activated them in a past game. If you didn't, no dice.

I honestly think ME3 should only have 4 romances you can activate. 2 for a straight character, and 2 for a non-straight character.

Then you're problem isn't gonna go away. The best that can happen is alleviating it with player initated romances so that others can get their choices while you don't have to be bothered with them.

Frankly I think ME3 should have as many romances as the devs want to make but they should all be player initated so that players who don't want to don't have to deal with romances being shoved in their face.

[jlb524]

jeweledleah wrote...
because I like for everyone but my Shepard to remain constant.  I want to be able to recognize them and to predict them.  I want their backstories to start out the same, their attitudes to start out the same.  for instance - Ashley.  maleshep shows up and she throws cation to the wind.  regulations?  fraternization?  who cares?  so if for some reason THAT becomes her reason for not being available to femshep before?  she is no longer  the Ashley I knew.  she's a different character that looks and sounds like Ashley.  its not just the romance either - I don't even want to talk to characters like that anymore.

So you are opposed to the new Ash romance for males as well?

I don't think that one change completely makes her 'not Ashley' anymore.

jeweledleah wrote...
and why does the desire for internal consistency for characters bother you?  Isaac - why are you so agaisnt them having a good, beleivable reason that works in ANY possible universe?  how does THAt affect you if all you want is for them to be available?

I don't mind slight variations across playthroughs as long as they are consistent within.  I see sexuality as a minor issue.

TMA LIVE wrote...
Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore, and thus the majority really is bi in the galaxy.

Realism?  Bah.

Please don't make me bring up Ugly Shepard again.

Modifié par jlb524, 20 novembre 2011 - 04:35 .

[ElitePinecone]

Not to rain on everyone's collective parade, but talking about this isn't going to change much.

There'll be a certain number of romance options in the game, some of them s/s and some of them o/s. Many may even be bisexual.

We can't change that. Nobody from Bioware is going to read this thread, have a sudden eureka moment and rush out to change all the romances.

They are what they are, enjoy them as they are. If you really get worked up about the internal consistency of fictional characters, or think bisexual options are unrealistic when inter-species alien romances aren't, there's probably a better thread than this one to discuss it.

Because debating the merits of what's already going to be in the game seems like a fruitless exercise.

[TMA LIVE]

Ryzaki wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
Yeah, I have a problem with that. It's more convincing if it's only 3 or 2. Not 8 or 10.

Which is why I think some romances should only happen if you activated them in a past game. If you didn't, no dice.

I honestly think ME3 should only have 4 romances you can activate. 2 for a straight character, and 2 for a non-straight character.

Then you're problem isn't gonna go away. The best that can happen is alleviating it with player initated romances so that others can get their choices while you don't have to be bothered with them.

Frankly I think ME3 should have as many romances as the devs want to make but they should all be player initated so that players who don't want to don't have to deal with romances being shoved in their face.

Again, I just have a problem with a large number. Same goes for aliens too. We already have 3 that can attach themselves to Shepard. If I can activate 3 new ones as well as those old ones in ME3, I'd think Bioware was going overboard.

[Ryzaki]

TMA LIVE wrote...
Again, I just have a problem with a large number. Same goes for aliens too. We already have 3 that can attach themselves to Shepard. If I can activate 3 new ones as well as those old ones in ME3, I'd think Bioware was going overboard.

Well I have a problem with a large number and I felt it was already hit. All I can say is to do what I did. Ignore it. Hopefully it won't be shoved down your throat like it was with me.

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

Realism?  Bah.

Please don't make me bring up Ugly Shepard again.

Bah, I'm sure some ladies find him a handsome devil. Just like the Predator.



Don't make me hunt down fan fiction for this thing written by woman. lol

[jeweledleah]

jlb524 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...
because I like for everyone but my Shepard to remain constant.  I want to be able to recognize them and to predict them.  I want their backstories to start out the same, their attitudes to start out the same.  for instance - Ashley.  maleshep shows up and she throws cation to the wind.  regulations?  fraternization?  who cares?  so if for some reason THAT becomes her reason for not being available to femshep before?  she is no longer  the Ashley I knew.  she's a different character that looks and sounds like Ashley.  its not just the romance either - I don't even want to talk to characters like that anymore.

So you are opposed to the new Ash romance for males as well?

I don't think that one change completely makes her 'not Ashley' anymore.

jeweledleah wrote...
and why does the desire for internal consistency for characters bother you?  Isaac - why are you so agaisnt them having a good, beleivable reason that works in ANY possible universe?  how does THAt affect you if all you want is for them to be available?

I don't mind slight variations across playthroughs as long as they are consistent within.  I see sexuality as a minor issue.

I'm not a fan of new romance for VS, regardless of gender.  but I can tollerate it, depending on how its handled. however, what I have read so far, made me seriously concider shelving Shepards that were involved with VS already.  I don't have much hope left for significant enough changes to fix some of the.. stuff. all I can hope for is that a lot of things were missing from the leak and whatever was missing will make it make more sence.

and I very much mind those differences.  if fraternization is something that Ashley takes seriously, it shoudln't matter which gender Shepard she's serving with. etc, etc. again, I understand that it doesn't matter to you.  so I'm not sure why it should matter to you if those differences don't exist in a first place

[jlb524]

jeweledleah wrote...
I'm not a fan of new romance for VS, regardless of gender.  but I can tollerate it, depending on how its handled. however, what I have read so far, made me seriously concider shelving Shepards that were involved with VS already.  I don't have much hope left for significant enough changes to fix some of the.. stuff. all I can hope for is that a lot of things were missing from the leak and whatever was missing will make it make more sence.

Well, that really has little to do with their romance status.

jeweledleah wrote...
and I very much mind those differences.  if fraternization is something that Ashley takes seriously, it shoudln't matter which gender Shepard she's serving with. etc, etc. again, I understand that it doesn't matter to you.  so I'm not sure why it should matter to you if those differences don't exist in a first place

But you're okay with Ashley going for Shepards with various personalities in different playthroughs?  Wouldn't it make sense for her to be more attracted to some personalities but not others?   However, she interacts with them in the same way.

TMA LIVE wrote...

Don't make me hunt down fan fiction for this thing written by woman. lol

I...don't want to know.

Modifié par jlb524, 20 novembre 2011 - 05:13 .

[jeweledleah]

jlb524 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...
I'm not a fan of new romance for VS, regardless of gender.  but I can tollerate it, depending on how its handled. however, what I have read so far, made me seriously concider shelving Shepards that were involved with VS already.  I don't have much hope left for significant enough changes to fix some of the.. stuff. all I can hope for is that a lot of things were missing from the leak and whatever was missing will make it make more sence.

Well, that really has little to do with their romance status.

jeweledleah wrote...
and I very much mind those differences.  if fraternization is something that Ashley takes seriously, it shoudln't matter which gender Shepard she's serving with. etc, etc. again, I understand that it doesn't matter to you.  so I'm not sure why it should matter to you if those differences don't exist in a first place

But you're okay with Ashley going for Shepards with various personalities in different playthroughs?  Wouldn't it make sense for her to be more attracted to some personalities but not others?   However, she interacts with them in the same way.

most doesn't but some is connected to romance specific spoilers.  and actualy - Ashley responds differently to renegade vs paragon Shepard - she teases paragon more, while renegade gets some of her flirtier lines.  not to mention responses that outright stop the romance.  its not as intricate and interesting as it could be and it would be fantastic if characters made more comments on Shepard's actions and were affected by them (ala DAO), but its not completely flat either.  and yes I'm ok with various personalities working with the same character, due to my personal believes concerning "soul mates" and general compatibility.

[Goneaviking]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Another thing is realism for whatever it's worth in ME (which ain't much). Like Shepard just happens to have 4 men who are interested in him on the same ship. Same with Femshep having 4 woman. Unless more people in the future don't care about sexuality anymore.

Several of those won't be human.

True.

But what if Jacob, Kaidan, James, and Steve become bi options? They're human.

I'll have more options when I eventually get around to playing a gay male shepherd?

I'm not seeing an inherent downside.

The only potential angst I see is dependant on the romance mechanism they have in place. If I can avoid romance options starting then it's gold, if half the crew are taking it upon themselves to pop up to my cabin for a booty call then it's a problem.

[jlb524]

jeweledleah wrote...
and yes I'm ok with various personalities working with the same character, due to my personal believes concerning "soul mates" and general compatibility.

I'm still not sure why you'd then be completely against the new Ash romance as things might not have happened in ME1 due to Shepard's personality (very aloof, for instance)  There are possible explanations.

Hell, Shepard doesn't even have to speak with Ash in ME1.

Modifié par jlb524, 20 novembre 2011 - 05:22 .

[Ravensword]

Why can't we just have all bi LIs?

[slimgrin]

Ravensword wrote...

Why can't we just have all bi LIs?

Oh now you've done it..

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[Ravensword]

I've done nothing except speak my mind.