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#14026
Chun Hei

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As long as she's not Conrad Verner in drag. He's blonde, right? Anyways I kinda hope they don't make her bi now. I would create so many Shep's for her if she only likes females :D


Conrad Vernor for transvestite LI. He is not gay and only likes girls but REALLY enjoys wearing their clothes.

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Does anyone know how to put the MaleShep/Kaiden romance game save onto a thumb drive for the Xbox 360? I was excited to find out that it would work on Xbox. However, I have no idea how to transfer the save. Can someone private message me or something please? Thanks in advance!

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Chun Hei wrote...

Cathey wrote...

As long as she's not Conrad Verner in drag. He's blonde, right? Anyways I kinda hope they don't make her bi now. I would create so many Shep's for her if she only likes females :D


Conrad Vernor for transvestite LI. He is not gay and only likes girls Shepard but REALLY enjoys wearing woman clothes.


Fix'd.

#14029
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Chun Hei wrote...

C-Sec Nova wrote...

Who is this... "Samantha" Character? If she is human... I don't want her! >:(


The only known s/s female LI in ME3. She is not a squadmate but still a full blown romance. She appears to be lesbian and not "bi" but that part is not definite.

Is she a human? Quarian? or what? lol I hope she is a Quarian... since that may finally get me to make a female shepard >.<

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C-Sec Nova wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

C-Sec Nova wrote...

Who is this... "Samantha" Character? If she is human... I don't want her! >:(


The only known s/s female LI in ME3. She is not a squadmate but still a full blown romance. She appears to be lesbian and not "bi" but that part is not definite.

Is she a human? Quarian? or what? lol I hope she is a Quarian... since that may finally get me to make a female shepard >.<


She is a human.

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Chun Hei wrote...

Cathey wrote...

As long as she's not Conrad Verner in drag. He's blonde, right? Anyways I kinda hope they don't make her bi now. I would create so many Shep's for her if she only likes females :D


Conrad Vernor for transvestite LI. He is not gay and only likes girls but REALLY enjoys wearing their clothes.


He's simply a boy in a dress.

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Chun Hei

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SerenityRebirth wrote...

Does anyone know how to put the MaleShep/Kaiden romance game save onto a thumb drive for the Xbox 360? I was excited to find out that it would work on Xbox. However, I have no idea how to transfer the save. Can someone private message me or something please? Thanks in advance!


The USB must be formated in XBox format so I do not think you can use PC saves in XBox since I do not think you can save unto a XBox format drive on a PC. The XBox will read but not write on a PC format drive so you can play audio and video files but that is it as far as I can tell.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Blond hair looks downright horrible in ME.

I wanted to have a blond Shep but...yeah not happening.

Not always... *snip*



And how does he look in ME2? 

Considering I, like almost all of my Shepards, stole it from ME2 faces...

Click me!

Again - not bad. I just wish they kept the shaggy hair look the way it did in ME1. Looked less cartoony. 

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Blond hair looks downright horrible in ME.

I wanted to have a blond Shep but...yeah not happening.

Not always... *snip*



And how does he look in ME2? 

Considering I, like almost all of my Shepards, stole it from ME2 faces...

Click me!

Again - not bad. I just wish they kept the shaggy hair look the way it did in ME1. Looked less cartoony. 


Not bad at all. My Shep's still hotter though. :innocent:

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Nu uh...this Shep reminds me of my crush since June...le sigh...

Image IPB

Modifié par MACharlie1, 08 janvier 2012 - 03:32 .


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Poor Charlie. :P

Pfft my Shep is totally sexier. <3

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Well now all I cant think about is having Hudson & Kasumi in my quarters....




At the same time.


Covert infiltration. 


I'll show you a Shadow Strike.

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so, did anyone see Samantha in the leak? and if so, how does she look? generally, as in, no pictures, want to know if Kelly is going to get dumped.

Modifié par draken-heart, 08 janvier 2012 - 07:56 .


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draken-heart wrote...

so, did anyone see Samantha in the leak? and if so, how does she look? generally, as in, no pictures, want to know if Kelly is going to get dumped.


Nope. That is why we were discussing her on the second half of page 561.

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i have recently been thinking of re-doing my femShep so i can romance Samantha so....i may do just that, just for her.

Modifié par draken-heart, 08 janvier 2012 - 07:27 .


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Cathey wrote...

As long as she's not Conrad Verner in drag. He's blonde, right? Anyways I kinda hope they don't make her bi now. I would create so many Shep's for her if she only likes females :D


I have wondered at times, if we ever get to meet Verner's wife and the possiblity to show the poor neglected woman some attention ;)

And I wholeheartedly support the "all-bi" approach of DA2, I do however have to admit, that the idea of an exclusive lesbian character makes me grin on the inside. 

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Olive Oomph wrote...

Cathey wrote...

As long as she's not Conrad Verner in drag. He's blonde, right? Anyways I kinda hope they don't make her bi now. I would create so many Shep's for her if she only likes females :D


I have wondered at times, if we ever get to meet Verner's wife and the possiblity to show the poor neglected woman some attention ;)

And I wholeheartedly support the "all-bi" approach of DA2, I do however have to admit, that the idea of an exclusive lesbian character makes me grin on the inside. 


While it has NEVER been said that the ME team WILL use the "all bi LIs" in future ME games, I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes standard practice in the ME series after the Shepard trilogy is over. As for ME3, I see no problem with exclusively gay LIs since there are still a huge number of hetero-only LIs from the ME2 game who will not be "bi," and it is still in doubt whether or not Vega and the VS are "bi."

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Could I ask you a couple of questions? Why would any of you want such a thing as an "all-bisexual option"  to be given? What would happen to the hardly earned credibility of all the characters we've met so far, if you completely ignored their philosophy and mentality, and slapped a "bisexual option" on them? I'll answer. That would ruin everything about these characters. It wouldn't make sense and it would negate the possibility of having well written characters with different motivations and background. It would make them much more generic and much less unique. I'm not saying that having homosexual or bisexual characters is a bad thing, because it's not. Having them is actually a really good thing, because that introduces a little bit of uniqueness to the game and it's universe, but... Don't you get it? Such uniqueness wouldn't exist, if everyone had the -"bisexual"- option. Now, I'd like to hear what "pros" such an option would give to a heavily narrative based game, such as Mass Effect, because all I see are "cons".

Modifié par pizu, 08 janvier 2012 - 09:59 .


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pizu wrote...

What would happen to the hardly earned credibility of all the characters we've met so far, if you completely ignored their philosophy and mentality, and slapped a "bisexual option" on them? I'll answer. That would ruin everything about these characters. It wouldn't make sense and it would negate the possibility of having well written characters with different motivations and background.

What exactly philosophy and menality has to with the fact who they like to sleep with? It'll tell ya, not much if anything. What it has MUCH more to do with, especially in a game such as Mass Effect like you said, are Shep's moral actions. Do any of the paragon LIs care if Shep is a sadistic sociopath? Does a strong woman like Ashley care Shep's beating other women for no reason? Nope. The fact is, LIs in ME are available to Shep no matter what you did earlier in the game.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 08 janvier 2012 - 10:16 .


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@pizu I do get what you're saying, and I even agree with you mostly, although I wouldn't be as vehement about it. The main pro of having "all bi" options would be that the company doesn't have to create an entire character specifically for people who want a s/s option, but instead only have to modify existing characters. This uses fewer resources and as a result s/s options are more likely. Also, contrary to popular belief, whether or not a character is gay or straight doesn't actually change all that much about their motivations or even who they are as far as we can see. But for my money, I think you're right, and if a company wants to use the resources to make a character who is gay regardless of how you interact with them, that's preferable to me.

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IsaacShep wrote...
What exactly philosophy and menality has to with the fact who they like to sleep with? It'll tell ya, not much if anything. What it has MUCH more to do with, especially in a game such as Mass Effect like you said, are Shep's moral actions. Do any of the paragon LIs care if Shep is a sadistic sociopath? Does a strong woman like Ashley care Shep's beating other women for no reason? Nope. The fact is, LIs in ME are available to Shep no matter what you did earlier in the game.


Shepard has nothing to do with this, Isaac. Why are you even bringing him into the discussion... I don't understand. I'm not talking about moral choices and their influence on Shepard's squadmates and LIs and to be honest your post doesn't answer to any of my questions.

What I was trying to say and what you were unable to understand is quite simple. In every story there are different characters - with different motivations, ideals, morals and backstory. These characters have different personalities, because they lived through different experiences and those made them what they are. You can't ignore that. Such things are like the bricks of a house . You can't make everyone a bisexual, just because you demand so. If you wish to create a bisexual character, you have to start from scratch, like any other character in any story. You have to motive his choice of being a bisexual person. There must be some events in his life that contributes to his credibility and none of this creadibility would be found in any of the bisexual characters, if you just did a lazy job and threw a bisexual option into their dialouge list. 

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pizu wrote...

Why are you even bringing him into the discussion... I don't understand. I'm not talking about moral choices and their influence on Shepard's squadmates and LIs and to be honest your post doesn't answer to any of my questions.

What don't you understand? If LIs don't care what a person who's hitting on them does, it means the philosophy, mentality & background of these LIs doesn't matter when it comes to their approach to romance. It's very simple.

pizu wrote...

You have to motive his choice of being a bisexual person.

Come again?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 08 janvier 2012 - 10:40 .


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Tietj wrote...

@pizu I do get what you're saying, and I even agree with you mostly, although I wouldn't be as vehement about it. The main pro of having "all bi" options would be that the company doesn't have to create an entire character specifically for people who want a s/s option, but instead only have to modify existing characters. This uses fewer resources and as a result s/s options are more likely. Also, contrary to popular belief, whether or not a character is gay or straight doesn't actually change all that much about their motivations or even who they are as far as we can see. But for my money, I think you're right, and if a company wants to use the resources to make a character who is gay regardless of how you interact with them, that's preferable to me.


I say quality over quantity. I would rather have one well written and thought-out homosexual character than three bad ones. 

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IsaacShep wrote...

What don't you understand? If LIs don't care what a person who's hitting on them does, it means the philosophy, mentality & background of these LIs doesn't matter when it comes to their approach to romance. It's very simple.


Yes, you're right... It doesn't matter to Shepard, but it matters to me as a player; and since I'm the one that's living the experience that Mass Effect is and Shepard is just the tool, then these characters' philosophy and such matter quite a lot, because those little, but very important details help me to immerse myself into the story. It contributes a lot and it's essential when creating a believable universe.

Modifié par pizu, 08 janvier 2012 - 10:51 .


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I just hope I don't get ninja-manced again.

I was in an awkward "let's talk about us" triangle between Jack, Tali, and Miranda.
I was just being nice ladies.