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[TMA LIVE]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

FaWa wrote...

I thought the position was that the VSs and Vega had gender neutral dialogue?

Spoiler: A lot of the VS dialogue refers to what s/he once had w/ Shepard. So it's not as gender neutral as you would think.

Also, in a really great LJ post, Patrick Weekes explains that "If I can in any way avoid having someone mention Commander Shepard's gender, I will do so."

That's weird, because I've been looking at the Tali and Garrus romances in ME3, and they do mention Shepard's gender. And fairly frequently, IIRC.

And correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not 100% sure here), but are those not the romances that Weekes did?

Anyway, to be more on-topic with this thread, if Tali/Garrus do not have gender-neutral dialogue, but Vega/VS do,  that would seem to suggest that VS and Vega are in fact bi.

You sure they don't mention their gender because they might have been romanced in ME2?

I'm not really sure what you're asking. Clarify, please.

I haven't read the dialogue, but are you sure they aren't gender neutral because Garrus might already be romanced to a woman, instead of a man?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 12 janvier 2012 - 01:15 .

[JamieCOTC]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

FaWa wrote...

I thought the position was that the VSs and Vega had gender neutral dialogue?

Spoiler: A lot of the VS dialogue refers to what s/he once had w/ Shepard. So it's not as gender neutral as you would think.

Also, in a really great LJ post, Patrick Weekes explains that "If I can in any way avoid having someone mention Commander Shepard's gender, I will do so."

That's weird, because I've been looking at the Tali and Garrus romances in ME3, and they do mention Shepard's gender. And fairly frequently, IIRC.

And correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not 100% sure here), but are those not the romances that Weekes did?

Anyway, to be more on-topic with this thread, if Tali/Garrus do not have gender-neutral dialogue, but Vega/VS do,  that would seem to suggest that VS and Vega are in fact bi.

I see it w/ Vega, but not w/ VS.  As I said, the past relationship comes up more than a couple of times which would lead one to believe they are just continuing what was already on track.  Anyway, hopefully you are right. I don't see it, but we'll now in a few weeks.

[Chun Hei]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Although AFAIK, you can't start up a new romance with Garrus or Tali in ME3 anyway, regardless of your gender; you have to go in with an existing one.

But you forgot about the part where you all go out and get drunk and wake up in the morning in the same bed but in each other's uniform...

[AsiaRedgrave]

I'm new to the forums and am still figuring out what all the terms mean. Could someone please tell me what VS means? I keep seeing it but dont know what it means. Or if this question has already been asked point me to where i can find it and any other terms i should know.

[Chun Hei]

VS = Virmire Survivor (Ashly or Kaidan)

[Sundance31us]

AsiaRedgrave wrote...

I'm new to the forums and am still figuring out what all the terms mean. Could someone please tell me what VS means? I keep seeing it but dont know what it means. Or if this question has already been asked point me to where i can find it and any other terms i should know.

Virmire Survivor

[AsiaRedgrave]

Ah. Thank you. Why didn't I figure that out? Seems so obvious now.

[bleetman]

Chun Hei wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Although AFAIK, you can't start up a new romance with Garrus or Tali in ME3 anyway, regardless of your gender; you have to go in with an existing one.

But you forgot about the part where you all go out and get drunk and wake up in the morning in the same bed but in each other's uniform...

Oh, that'd go well.

"You know, this suit is kind of cozy. I could get used to wearing this. Apart from the whole 'three fingered gloves' thing, that is."
"Oh, keelah... Shepard?! What're you... and why're you... Hey, give that back! I need it to live!"
"But it's snug in all the right places."
"I have a shotgun."
"Urgh. Fine."

Which gender is Shepard in this scenario? YOU DECIDE.

...

[Yuqi]

JamieCOTC wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I mourn for the loss of love triangles... none in DA2 either.

Casey confirned that the original triangle, VS/Liara/Shep would be in ME3 some time ago.

"But we also have some interesting things happening, where you've got
Ashley and Kaiden from the first game, you've got Liara, and there's
sort of a love triangle there ..."

How would that work? I mean your forced to choose...in ME1

[MACharlie1]

Yuqi wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I mourn for the loss of love triangles... none in DA2 either.

Casey confirned that the original triangle, VS/Liara/Shep would be in ME3 some time ago.

"But we also have some interesting things happening, where you've got
Ashley and Kaiden from the first game, you've got Liara, and there's
sort of a love triangle there ..."

How would that work? I mean your forced to choose...in ME1

If you romanced one in ME1 and then romanced another in ME3? 

[Ryzaki]

JamieCOTC wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I mourn for the loss of love triangles... none in DA2 either.

Casey confirned that the original triangle, VS/Liara/Shep would be in ME3 some time ago.

"But we also have some interesting things happening, where you've got
Ashley and Kaiden from the first game, you've got Liara, and there's
sort of a love triangle there ..."

Oh lawd.

Poor Guardian.

I really hope that only oocurs if you romance them because if Guardian really has to deal with "I still love you you know even though you never expressed any interest at all." bleh. He's gonna have to facepalm.

I'd rather they romanced each other than that.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 janvier 2012 - 03:55 .

[ElitePinecone]

Ryzaki wrote...
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I highly doubt it. To my mind all he means is that both the VS and Liara are romance options, and there could be a love triangle there if you romance both. 

(remember that dev answers to press questions tend to be vague on detail, repeat a few marketing lines and say things that almost inevitably never happen in the actual game)

[Ryzaki]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
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I highly doubt it. To my mind all he means is that both the VS and Liara are romance options, and there could be a love triangle there if you romance both. 

(remember that dev answers to press questions tend to be vague on detail, repeat a few marketing lines and say things that almost inevitably never happen in the actual game)

That would be vastly preferred.

And yeah devs and their marketing speak. >:[

[ladyofpayne]

So who which of companions is gay?

[ElitePinecone]

ladyofpayne wrote...

So who which of companions is gay?

We don't know yet. When we do know, I'm sure there'll be a million forum topics about it. 

Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor are definitely available for male and female Shepards, respectively. It looks likely that they're even exclusively gay/lesbian characters. 

Anybody else, we have no clue. We might even need to wait until March. 

[AnubisOnly]

Vega should be bi option as well as Kaidan and Ashley & Liara of course + Steve & Samantha as only gay characters (in ME1 they wanted  VS to be ''bi'' but something goes wrong...) for both M & F Shepard!

Modifié par Lucas1987Dion, 12 janvier 2012 - 05:09 .

[Cathey]

Having Vega and the VS be bi would even it out as 3 same sex options for each gender. Kaidan, Vega, Steve - Ashley, Kelly, Samantha.

Y'know, since BioWare don't count Liara.

Modifié par Cathey, 12 janvier 2012 - 05:15 .

[Ryzaki]

...I really can't believe they played the Liara doesn't count cause she's an alien card.

[AnubisOnly]

Any words about Joker romance? Bi option??
I personally think that Joker should stay straight ;-)
Edit:  Thanks for info Ryzaki !

Modifié par Lucas1987Dion, 12 janvier 2012 - 05:41 .

[shepskisaac]

Cathey wrote...

Y'know, since BioWare don't count Liara.

They do, one of the devs said himself that the team does consider it f/f romance. BioWare PR & marketing often has little to do with what they really think.

EDIT: ninja'd

Modifié par IsaacShep, 12 janvier 2012 - 05:40 .

[Ryzaki]

Lucas1987Dion wrote...

Any words about Joker romance? Bi option??
I personally think that Joker should stay straight ;-)

Uh highlight spoiler below and do not quote because spoiler text will become visible.

Joker's not a romance opton period. He gets an LI of his own and it's not Shep.

[Darth Death]

ElitePinecone wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

So who which of companions is gay?

We don't know yet. When we do know, I'm sure there'll be a million forum topics about it. 

Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor are definitely available for male and female Shepards, respectively. It looks likely that they're even exclusively gay/lesbian characters. 

Anybody else, we have no clue. We might even need to wait until March. 

Not exclusively I think, but definitely bi options. I also don't think vega or kaidan are gay romance options. 

[Blacklash93]

Darth Death wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

So who which of companions is gay?

We don't know yet. When we do know, I'm sure there'll be a million forum topics about it. 

Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor are definitely available for male and female Shepards, respectively. It looks likely that they're even exclusively gay/lesbian characters. 

Anybody else, we have no clue. We might even need to wait until March. 

Not exclusively I think, but definitely bi options. I also don't think vega or kaidan are gay romance options. 

There's nothing to suggest that they're available for o/s romance in the script. Especially for Samantha, as there's even evidence against it for her.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 12 janvier 2012 - 08:31 .

[Darth Death]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

So who which of companions is gay?

We don't know yet. When we do know, I'm sure there'll be a million forum topics about it. 

Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor are definitely available for male and female Shepards, respectively. It looks likely that they're even exclusively gay/lesbian characters. 

Anybody else, we have no clue. We might even need to wait until March. 

Not exclusively I think, but definitely bi options. I also don't think vega or kaidan are gay romance options. 

There's nothing to suggest that they're available for o/s romance in the script. Especially for Samantha, as there's even evidence against it for her.

True. In the beginning it seemed that way, until near the end when she's talking about having kids. Of course she could mean adoption, but it was never mentioned.