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[Game_Fan_85]

IsaacShep wrote...

Collider wrote...
I interpreted that as "how do we do a gay male romance scene?" not "do we have enough time to make another cutscene?" There's no outright mention of not having enough time to do gay romances in the Weekes' quote.

Why would you interpret it like that? Gay romance scene ain't some rocket science or knowledge from outer space lol, it wouldn't take longer than 5 minutes to anyone to figure it out how to 'pose' them. Now, going back to mo-cap studio and creating new scenes from technical level is another thing. Ohh and another BW dev did say time issues were the main poblem.

Who says they needed to change it? It could have been like DA2, I don't think they even changed the animation based on sex.  Everytime my Hawke leads Anders to the bed he becames strangley feminine and girly in his movements.  One could argue that it was just part of the rushed/unfinished feel of DA2 but maybe they didn't think it worthwhile to put 2 sets of animation in the game.

As for the s/s romances disappearing from ME1, I always wondered if Microsoft had some objection to it seeing as MS Game Studios were very much hyping the game towards the GoW/Halo crowd.  It is probably completely untrue but I have always wondered.

[bas_kon]

jeweledleah wrote...
ok, I have to ask.  why do they seem odd?  Kaidan may be slipping up if you are watching for it, but there were plenty of peope who got completely blindsided by him, becasue he's pretty subtle.  you can also break off the romance at various points and he really doesn't break down and show it untill locker scene (at which point if you don't break it off - the romance is basicaly set) 

while I'm most certainly not a fan of "i never got over you, even though you didn't feel the same way at a time" plot, it actualy makes sence MORE as a femshep, because there were signs there that he liked her, but you could also break it off without even realizing it.

Now that's way too twisted imho. There's no way on earth you could go unromanced through me1, without rejecting both the VS's AND Liara's advances (that's why they call it ninjamance) or just ignore them, but I'm not certain of the latter, tbh. And kaidan's not subtle at all, unless you skip conversations or don't pay attention to what's he's saying.

If you want to roleplay that, then good for you. I've also started a "well hung shemale lesbian shep" playthrough and that doesn't make everyone's femsheps well hung shemale lesbians, but that one in that playthrough (and just in my mind).

Also, I'm a bisexual and never showed any sign of liking another man, 'till I got drunk once with my "also straight" best bud and slept with him, and later we became a couple.
Don't you tell me that liking someone (even of your own sex, while thinking you're straight) you thought you didn' before is unrealistic, because it happened to me and to a lot of people in REAL life.

That said, I'm not saying you are wrong, because no one knows whether they're bi or not for sure. I'm just stating your arguments make no point and are too subjetive to be taken seriously.

[shepskisaac]

jeweledleah wrote...

it actualy makes sence MORE as a femshep, because there were signs there that he liked her

Which is precisely why to me it DOESN'T make more sense to FemShep, because if there were signs he liked FemShep, then having dialogues like "I... I have feelings for you" makes me think "No kidding, this is brand new information111!!".

jeweledleah wrote...

but you could also break it off without even realizing it.

You really think BioWare will track "this FemShep never even realized Kaidan liked her" flag? When they didn't even bother to track Garrus & Kaidan renagading flags? When there's not even "romanced but didn't have sex" flag for Kaidan, Ash & Liara romances in ME1?

Anyway, changing subject. Anyone else also thinks this blond guy in Alliance uniform is Cortez? From GTTV footage?

EDIT for better quality:

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 janvier 2012 - 08:22 .

[Ryzaki]

@Issac: They did bother to record Garrus renegade/paragon flags and it leads to a few lines difference during his loyalty mission.

You're right about Kaidan. They didn't bother to record if Shep paragon'd/renegaded the VS for some reason.

And that looks like Bailey.

And why is he the only one not holding up a gun? Edit: Wait Garrus for some boggling reason is looking behind them. Now I want to know what's going on in this pic.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 janvier 2012 - 08:08 .

[shepskisaac]

He has Alliance uniform though, Bailey is C-Sec

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...

He has Alliance uniform though, Bailey is C-Sec

Point.

I hope they keep the face we saw in the leaked beta (from the side anyway).

Light colored hair tends to look horrible in ME.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

I hope they keep the face we saw in the leaked beta (from the side anyway).

Light colored hair tends to look horrible in ME.

The beta face was the same as 'generic background alliance soldier' seen all over Earth leaked demo though... I want him to be unique. And ME3 hair look much better than ME1 or ME2 so I wouldn't be concerned about that. Added better pic to my original post, his blonde hair look good IMO. I hoped he would be either blond, or have black skin or be asian, something to me him look different to Kaidan & Vega (especially if all 3 are available to romance for mShep)

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 janvier 2012 - 08:25 .

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...
The beta face was the same as 'generic background alliance soldier' seen all over Earth leaked demo though... I want him to be unique. And ME3 hair look much better than ME1 or ME2 so I wouldn't be concerned about that. Added better pic to my original post, his blonde hair look good IMO. I hoped he would be either blond, or have black skin or be asian, something to me him look different to Kaidan & Vega (especially if all 3 are available to romance for mShep)

Looking like Bailey isn't unique.

Personally I'd rather have darker hair. ME doesn't have blondes look that good to me.

[bigbrowncows]

Just watched the new feature with Freddie Prince Jnr..

Link:

That scene where Shepherd and Vega are sparring HAS to end with a make out session. There's no way it cant. BW wouldn't be that cruel.... :-(

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Personally I'd rather have darker hair. ME doesn't have blondes look that good to me.

Cut the crap! You hates us blonds! Ohh hell no! BLOND POWER!!!

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Personally I'd rather have darker hair. ME doesn't have blondes look that good to me.

Cut the crap! You hates us blonds! Ohh hell no! BLOND POWER!!!

Yes blondes suck.



DARK HAIR FOREVER! <3

[shepskisaac]

Gentlemen preffer blondes

[Ryzaki]

Pfft clearly they have poor tastes.

No hair color is as sexy as a rich dark hair (especially long healthy dark hair).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 janvier 2012 - 09:08 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft clearly they have poor tastes.

No hair color is as sexy as a rich dark hair (especially long healthy dark hair).

Nothing's as godly as blonde hair reflecting the sun

[MACharlie1]

IsaacShep wrote...

Gentlemen preffer blondes

Indeed. 

*dons monocle*

(even I myself aren't a blond) 

P.S. I believe blonde is for females, blond is for males. Someone correct me if I am wrong. 

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft clearly they have poor tastes.

No hair color is as sexy as a rich dark hair (especially long healthy dark hair).

Nothing's as godly as blonde hair reflecting the sun

Whatever.

@MA: Blonde tends to be used for females, blond can be used for both. Blonde is the female version in french anyway but you know how foreigners bastardize everything.    Seriously blonde = female. Blond = gender neutral people just made the mistake so often it sliped into common usage.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 janvier 2012 - 09:18 .

[shepskisaac]

I'm not a native, I mix blonde & blond all the time

[Abispa]

IsaacShep wrote...

I'm not a native, I mix blonde & blond all the time

If the rumors are true, so does Kaidan.

[jeweledleah]

IsaacShep wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

it actualy makes sence MORE as a femshep, because there were signs there that he liked her

Which is precisely why to me it DOESN'T make more sense to FemShep, because if there were signs he liked FemShep, then having dialogues like "I... I have feelings for you" makes me think "No kidding, this is brand new information111!!".

jeweledleah wrote...

but you could also break it off without even realizing it.

You really think BioWare will track "this FemShep never even realized Kaidan liked her" flag? When they didn't even bother to track Garrus & Kaidan renagading flags? When there's not even "romanced but didn't have sex" flag for Kaidan, Ash & Liara romances in ME1?

picking subject back up. 

precicely.

they will just assume, the same way they assumed that all Shepards treated Tali well.

and you could easily go through the game without realizing you rejected the romance becasue Kaidan rejection is NOT "I just want to be friends"  like it was with Liara.  oh no.  there's "just be ready for anything" or "I was just waiting for the interesting part" or "I'm really in a bad mood right now"  this is where the claims of ninjamancing are coming from, because unless you litteraly look up the key frases, or find them up through repeated experementation - they are very unclear untill the point of no return.

so yes, this "I.. I have feelings for you" makes sence for femshep - perfect sence.  becasue there was something there, that they may have gotten over, and then they realize that hey - its there after all.

whether the same phrase will be used for both?  is not clear yet.  nothing has been confirmed.  but to claim that its profe of m/m romance that the phrase is there specificaly for m/m romance?  aren't we jumping a little bit ahead of ourselves?

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote...

I'm not a native, I mix blonde & blond all the time

See? Foreign bastardizer!

Honestly I took a french class and I still mix them up at times. I am ashamed.

[shepskisaac]

jeweledleah wrote...

they will just assume, the same way they assumed that all Shepards treated Tali well.

and you could easily go through the game without realizing you rejected the romance becasue Kaidan rejection is NOT "I just want to be friends"  like it was with Liara.  oh no.  there's "just be ready for anything" or "I was just waiting for the interesting part" or "I'm really in a bad mood right now"  this is where the claims of ninjamancing are coming from, because unless you litteraly look up the key frases, or find them up through repeated experementation - they are very unclear untill the point of no return.

But then there's also stuff like the Citadel view conversation, where every player realizes Kaidan's into FemShep regardless of turning him down later or not.

jeweledleah wrote...

so yes, this "I.. I have feelings for you" makes sence for femshep - perfect sence.  becasue there was something there, that they may have gotten over, and then they realize that hey - its there after all.

In such case, wouldn't the dialogue be written more like "I... I still have feelings for you". Or "I... I realize I do have feelings for you after all/despite time"? Again, I absolutely can see them still using this line for new FemShep romance, but that doesn't change the fact it doesn't work as good as in hypothetical ManShep romance.

jeweledleah wrote...

whether the same phrase will be used for both?  is not clear yet.  nothing has been confirmed.  but to claim that its profe of m/m romance that the phrase is there specificaly for m/m romance?  aren't we jumping a little bit ahead of ourselves?

No one ever claimed it's a proof. Read the posts again, you won't find a single one saying "HA! That confirms it". I said that to me it can work in both scenarios, IF they assume/reilroad certain things about FemShep's non-romantic relations with Kaidan OR if they think about new players first and foremost, but in the end, IMO this dialogue would fit gay romance with Kaidan better.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 janvier 2012 - 09:38 .

[shepskisaac]

YASS!!! Cortez is definitely the blondie!!! :O:O Screenshot from Normandy hangar! (look next to Vega's head!) :O:O

[Ryzaki]

...how the hell can you see haircolor from that small blob?

Edit: Oh...I see?

Meh. Plz let that be a placeholder. I want black hair Oh well. I guess I'll stick with Vega or single. I can't romance someone who looks like Bailey. Just...no.

Edit: So Cortez just sits there and watches Shep and Vega spar? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 janvier 2012 - 09:58 .

[TMA LIVE]

I'm definitely more interested in his character now, since it seems he might be considered a younger Shepard. Someone how has to make hard choices, and push past it.

My femshep is a lesbain, but he's the closest that's an option that seems right for her.

Still wish Jack or Samara were Femshep options.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 20 janvier 2012 - 10:00 .

[Blacklash93]

Ryzaki wrote...

...how the hell can you see haircolor from that small blob?

Edit: Oh...I see?

Meh. Plz let that be a placeholder. I want black hair Oh well. I guess I'll stick with Vega or single. I can't romance someone who looks like Bailey. Just...no.

Edit: So Cortez just sits there and watches Shep and Vega spar? 

Agreed. He looked cute before.

Now he's just an old Bailey look-a-like.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 20 janvier 2012 - 10:01 .